If it is indeed about JH.. There were some baseless allegations going around.. Even though his ex-wife clarified…
I did... It's very sad seeing how undeserved mud sticks. Well, I didn't stay that superficial : I dug to find out the truth. Most people don't care, sadly. They hear a rumor, there is a woman and a muscle man, then he must be a rapist or a wife beater or abuser. Even it can perfectly be the contrary or a different story. Like in his case, vindicated by court ruling.
Also, there is the insinuation by some drama influencer that he "works better with men" so some view his stories only in BL light... Even when they admit their prejudice. His first role portraying a gay youth also became like chewing gum that you can't get rid of easily. He played it too well; so, the memory or rumor about it makes it uncomfortable for "pure lovers of classic romance" to fully get into his other "romance" acts, especially since he specialized too long in soldier-sailor-police and other uniformed male camaraderie or male bonding!
yes, it is a pity and very unfair that there is this bias from haters having used a baseless accusation, despite a court ruling in his favor. It is distressing to think that unfounded rumors can lingeringly affect someone. It is akin to cyberbullying like an actress had to suffer until she broke down.
I was surprised that a commenter who usually is rather objective on MDL mentioned from start of airing The First Short (the drama JH played in before LSIW) that she did not like his muscles and his character or attitude towards women. At the time, I put this opinion together with that, opposite, of a fan rising to defend the actor, adding my own impressions from movies and drama watching without looking at comments for a few of his works, which I thought memorable. And I remembered the strange case of the med abuse or suicide attempt of one woman who was said to be Johnny Huang's former wife, several years after their split. So I dug into the available online documentation, looking for the official view from the police or from hospital, and found the verdict that he was"not guilty"...
But haters are like cockroaches who creep back to bring the same dirt as if it was new. Gullible people fall into their nets and end up howling with the wolves. And everyone starts doubting a perfectly honest man, avoiding his dramas or nitpicking to find flaws and down rate; It looks like haters always win, sadly. They are best content when they drive an actress to break down, and add insults to injury insinuating she fakes to gain attention when she is already world famous .. Similar pattern for Johnny Huang, except he doesn't let himself be bullied that easily, despite his work is not given the recognition it would have if it had been played by say Wang Xingyue, or another"popular" "traffic" artist.
Can someone who can be objective and move aside fanaticism (loving the leading actors.) (READ THIS BEFORE ANSWERING!…
As for worth watching or not, I liked the drama enough, although it may not be groundbreaking nor be in my top list. That's subjective.
I do like those actors who are not shy to show their workout routines, such as Huang Jingyu (impressive, also the Brazilian jiujitsu videos) or Wu Lei among others. I think these guys deserve some respect. In dramas, I find Dai Gaozheng very cute in the BTS and casting of Maid's Revenge, and I had a laugh at some over the top stories featuring males showing nice six pack abs.
Well Huang Jingyu did not only play gay, or soldier, sailor, police, firefighter uniform focusing on law and order. He did play a different role with Dilraba once (Love Designer), but he is not really the type that most would swoon over, from my point of view . So when looking at the love story angle in Love Song In Winter, I was at first dubious, more focused on the hunt for the serial killer, next a little underwhelmed by the force's inefficiency and the villain's superior tactics. Obsessed and concealed villains are my cup of tea, but preferably when they are not totally evil. Here it was well done : not evident from start: I was suspecting everybody ! Once the villain was ascertained, the hunt seemed a bit long but convoluted enough to keep my attention.
The love story did not feel central for part of the drama,in the beginning: it was not sizzling but natural, as the two parties had reasons (even if far fetched) to explain their pulling away and getting back together again. There was no other getting space to insinuate between the two characters no lengthy dwelling on who loved first, just some flashbacks to show how they noticed each other, got sweet, but were torn apart from misunderstanding and regrettable tardiness; but they never looked elsewhere in their years apart. Johnny Huang is not my ideal "lover" character, but he did play sweet enough here even if his police character's "protective" tactics were rather over-the-top until he gained access. And Sun Qian is very pretty, with her bushy dark mane. A very good actress.
So, sum total for me, the drama was ok and good but not in my all time top of the decade or the year (for JH, that would be The First Shot, in my opinion).
But top it was for a number of people who watched and rated over the past three weeks in China : twice #1 since Dec29 and now still #2 among top ten of the week. for the weekly period ending yesterday. So if millions there thought it worth watching, you have an objective answer.
If it is indeed about JH.. There were some baseless allegations going around.. Even though his ex-wife clarified…
Not only clarified by "ex wife" but also by a court throwing the accusations out as baseless slander by anonymous person. The victim is the actor, here.
Congrats for this drama to reach three weeks in "top ten", twice as #1 and now still #2 for the week ending Sunday Jan12, 2025, as reported on the channel of Marcus Here!
An iron pot proposed To an earthen pot a journey. The latter was opposed, Expressing the concern he Had felt about the danger Of going out a ranger. He thought the kitchen hearth The safest place on earth For one so very brittle.
'For thee, who art a kettle, And hast a tougher skin, There's nought to keep thee in.'
'I'll be thy body-guard,' Replied the iron pot; 'If anything that's hard Should threaten thee a jot, Between you I will go, And save thee from the blow.'
This offer him persuaded. The iron pot paraded Himself as guard and guide Close at his cousin's side. Now, in their tripod way, They hobble as they may; And eke together bolt At every little jolt,-- Which gives the crockery pain; But presently his comrade hits So hard, he dashes him to bits, Before he can complain.
Take care that you associate With equals only, lest your fate Between these pots should find its mate.
--- The world is like that, has been like that, will not be changed even by the SJWs. It is no use tackling people in power by raising a fuss. At best you get revenge, sometimes ; but more often, you just get more heartaches or stir up further destruction. Well meaning gossip using words like "golden goose" and evoking defiance and boycott etc just backfires to make a polarized situation worse, like the uneven match above and misguided "help" in the tale. It is not outsiders like us who should "counsel", "advice", "rise in arms to defend", target and judge people when we have no business with her contracts.
Already, contrary to your last sentence, some have reacted, but not favorably, and it only gave more fuel to the haters and cyberbullies who are sharpening their knives and laughing with evil mirth at Rosy's plight even here with some despicable "members" of MDL.
Rosy is neither dead nor dying and doesn't clamor for fans to view her as being in "a desperate situation that requires desperate measures" by foreigners or even fellow citizens who are not close to her.
That she had a very serious health incident is not to be doubted (those who do are clearly haters with obsessed and evil minds), but it was not and should not be inflated to "near death experience" to stir up doubts about whether she could get healthy again ! It was ... a serious accident, requiring care, rehab, and rest, but the best WE can do is thinking positively, sending well wishes, encouragement for her. Nobody among fans should even think of boycotting her past, present, or future work because of misguided and selfish holier than thou fanning flames temptation.
Just how far misguided comments go : I have seen comments advising her to emigrate to the USA!!!! She is a patriot, as many of her countrymen, and certainly has no wish to exile! Attacks on the "system" and of course going all the way to "evil China" or "evil Xi" (hey Xi is no god and has nothing to do with c-drama world, at most his wife was a singer, but a PLA artist first so... not anything in common). I also saw in videos and posts, attacks ad hominem on people because of the rumors, that we ultimately don't know exactly if and how they are founded, but which triggered stinging open letter reactions which could lead to lawsuits where Rosy doesn't have proof enough to support her supposed claims (she just explained generally but was careful not to go name dropping); it is certainly a heartache, but just don't fan flames that can get back to target her... and not much can be done about the cyberbullies, unfortunately (even here on MDL, blocking and reporting does not always get the expected just results). In China, the law has dealt with some slanderers that were recognizable.
Let's stay reasonable, distance from any extremism, support Rosy's work (and her colleagues') anyway. Boycott of a venue, because some owners or people in power there stink and get money (tax?) from it, never benefits an artist.
dramacool has stopped operating since late 2024.But the drama is on youtube as mentioned by ProfMrsDi. although…
In fact, since last, I see that the uploads continue and now mention 60 videos, so it's perhaps going to be the full 76 - let's see :) More reasonably, we are going to get the "online" 60 episodes edition ; the uncut one is nowhere to be found again, I think.
dramacool has stopped operating since late 2024.But the drama is on youtube as mentioned by ProfMrsDi. although…
sorry, no, and subs archives have also been targeted... So you need to do own work and take own risks, if you want to pirate. I do admit that even as a VIP paying member to the main platforms, and even as paying member of some channels on Youtube, I am disappointed with quality of subtitles, availability of shows, pictures, and freedom from pesky ads despite it be promised in contract. As I wrote somewhere else, 2025 will be tougher for many people, not only c-drama fans while recession, business changes and massive layoffs, war mongering, natural catastrophes and typhoons, drought, heatwaves, mammoth fires, new and old viruses..... threat the world at large. But let's hope still for brighter times with more caring and sharing...
Well i heard master melon said wait until march. So let’s just pray the best for her. Idk why you said “if…
It looks like production and some less patient members of cast have started grumbling about costs etc. But it's not like they can't wait because time slot is too short since they were granted 24 months starting Oct2024, enough to encompass disaster and reconstruction, or a really serious accident - her breakdown comes totally under that category, with need for care, rehab and rest. So shall we hope perhaps to see her back on her feet facing cameras, photoshoots, interviews etc not earlier than mid Feb, and yes, perhaps more reasonably, from sometime in March when she will not have to face freezing temperatures as they use to subject actors to on sets. Hoping they'll adjust her work schedules then, so as not to squeeze the sweet orange for its generous juice as they used to, till only the thin peel was left!
yes of course - one of the many CNY events and this one also shows her love of Phoenix Legend, the undying pop group that started back in the 2000s. She attended their performance in 2024, together with her family. I think she knows all of their songs and can sing them!
I think so, too. But I think she may not be up to do all the exciting things she used to do for the coming CNY. Perhaps she'll wait till after that period, if she is strong enough then. There's an 8 day public holiday until Feb 04, and I suppose she could still rest and recover till Lantern festival is over. These periods are hectic with galas, promotions, and modeling duties, and if she still felt she could not face crowds yesterday, then it's better to wait after all those busy times are out of the way before expecting her to work again. The workload also ought to be kept lighter for a while, lest she goes back to work herself to the bones and worse again.
literally, getting 1 ep a day after only 8 eps ? and for 3 days... don't think we see this often.
well, it encourages to diversify watching and look at other dramas, read books, do chores, learn new things : I am starting to brush up on bahasa lol. Although not planning to switch to sinetron 😂😂😂😂
Why China Huacetv takedown their videos?.Is there any copyright issue or problem with the upload process ?
were they uploaded and taken down on their YT channel? i thought they'd upload them later, after posting the BTS and other stuff, songs, as teasers.... I don't know more about that.
“Dearest gentle novel readers,” please let me know how the ml will wife up the fl when she is still technically…
Did you follow? Her former incarnation is dead, just like in The Double, lol. I am curious about how it will unfold too, when the crazy Liu Chang will recognize her, while he is marrying the Princess as main wife. He'd better shut up, look away, and not be the cause of another murder attempt, because Jiang can shoot pretty accurately as we know! (I did not read the book ; anyway, I understand this is again one drama that "adapts" freely, so i am along for the ride, and enjoying it)
hm.. i can see hate comments under this video too😂. Those obsessed fans are really something.
Unfortunately that's how c-ent is... Obsessed fans, crazy shippers + those with an agenda to target the country on YouTube or even here. Exploring the fandom of some of the actors can be interesting, though, to understand the "idols" and their followers beyond their drama or movie work. It's a pity that some followers can be manipulated into fan wars and cyberbullying. If you see blatant insulting and bullying, don't hesitate to report the haters: their messages can get taken down by YouTube, although it is more complicated on MDL.
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Also, there is the insinuation by some drama influencer that he "works better with men" so some view his stories only in BL light... Even when they admit their prejudice. His first role portraying a gay youth also became like chewing gum that you can't get rid of easily. He played it too well; so, the memory or rumor about it makes it uncomfortable for "pure lovers of classic romance" to fully get into his other "romance" acts, especially since he specialized too long in soldier-sailor-police and other uniformed male camaraderie or male bonding!
I was surprised that a commenter who usually is rather objective on MDL mentioned from start of airing The First Short (the drama JH played in before LSIW) that she did not like his muscles and his character or attitude towards women. At the time, I put this opinion together with that, opposite, of a fan rising to defend the actor, adding my own impressions from movies and drama watching without looking at comments for a few of his works, which I thought memorable. And I remembered the strange case of the med abuse or suicide attempt of one woman who was said to be Johnny Huang's former wife, several years after their split. So I dug into the available online documentation, looking for the official view from the police or from hospital, and found the verdict that he was"not guilty"...
But haters are like cockroaches who creep back to bring the same dirt as if it was new. Gullible people fall into their nets and end up howling with the wolves. And everyone starts doubting a perfectly honest man, avoiding his dramas or nitpicking to find flaws and down rate; It looks like haters always win, sadly. They are best content when they drive an actress to break down, and add insults to injury insinuating she fakes to gain attention when she is already world famous .. Similar pattern for Johnny Huang, except he doesn't let himself be bullied that easily, despite his work is not given the recognition it would have if it had been played by say Wang Xingyue, or another"popular" "traffic" artist.
Mud, even undeserved, sticks.
I do like those actors who are not shy to show their workout routines, such as Huang Jingyu (impressive, also the Brazilian jiujitsu videos) or Wu Lei among others. I think these guys deserve some respect. In dramas, I find Dai Gaozheng very cute in the BTS and casting of Maid's Revenge, and I had a laugh at some over the top stories featuring males showing nice six pack abs.
Well Huang Jingyu did not only play gay, or soldier, sailor, police, firefighter uniform focusing on law and order. He did play a different role with Dilraba once (Love Designer), but he is not really the type that most would swoon over, from my point of view .
So when looking at the love story angle in Love Song In Winter, I was at first dubious, more focused on the hunt for the serial killer, next a little underwhelmed by the force's inefficiency and the villain's superior tactics. Obsessed and concealed villains are my cup of tea, but preferably when they are not totally evil. Here it was well done : not evident from start: I was suspecting everybody ! Once the villain was ascertained, the hunt seemed a bit long but convoluted enough to keep my attention.
The love story did not feel central for part of the drama,in the beginning: it was not sizzling but natural, as the two parties had reasons (even if far fetched) to explain their pulling away and getting back together again. There was no other getting space to insinuate between the two characters no lengthy dwelling on who loved first, just some flashbacks to show how they noticed each other, got sweet, but were torn apart from misunderstanding and regrettable tardiness; but they never looked elsewhere in their years apart. Johnny Huang is not my ideal "lover" character, but he did play sweet enough here even if his police character's "protective" tactics were rather over-the-top until he gained access. And Sun Qian is very pretty, with her bushy dark mane. A very good actress.
So, sum total for me, the drama was ok and good but not in my all time top of the decade or the year (for JH, that would be The First Shot, in my opinion).
But top it was for a number of people who watched and rated over the past three weeks in China : twice #1 since Dec29 and now still #2 among top ten of the week. for the weekly period ending yesterday. So if millions there thought it worth watching, you have an objective answer.
The French poet La Fontaine turned it into a cautionary "Fable": "earthen pot against iron pot". Here's a translation by one Elizur Wright, 1882, on https://www.gutenberg.org/files/7241/7241-h/7241-h.htm#5II
THE EARTHEN POT AND THE IRON POT
An iron pot proposed
To an earthen pot a journey.
The latter was opposed,
Expressing the concern he
Had felt about the danger
Of going out a ranger.
He thought the kitchen hearth
The safest place on earth
For one so very brittle.
'For thee, who art a kettle,
And hast a tougher skin,
There's nought to keep thee in.'
'I'll be thy body-guard,'
Replied the iron pot;
'If anything that's hard
Should threaten thee a jot,
Between you I will go,
And save thee from the blow.'
This offer him persuaded.
The iron pot paraded
Himself as guard and guide
Close at his cousin's side.
Now, in their tripod way,
They hobble as they may;
And eke together bolt
At every little jolt,--
Which gives the crockery pain;
But presently his comrade hits
So hard, he dashes him to bits,
Before he can complain.
Take care that you associate
With equals only, lest your fate
Between these pots should find its mate.
---
The world is like that, has been like that, will not be changed even by the SJWs. It is no use tackling people in power by raising a fuss. At best you get revenge, sometimes ; but more often, you just get more heartaches or stir up further destruction. Well meaning gossip using words like "golden goose" and evoking defiance and boycott etc just backfires to make a polarized situation worse, like the uneven match above and misguided "help" in the tale. It is not outsiders like us who should "counsel", "advice", "rise in arms to defend", target and judge people when we have no business with her contracts.
Already, contrary to your last sentence, some have reacted, but not favorably, and it only gave more fuel to the haters and cyberbullies who are sharpening their knives and laughing with evil mirth at Rosy's plight even here with some despicable "members" of MDL.
Rosy is neither dead nor dying and doesn't clamor for fans to view her as being in "a desperate situation that requires desperate measures" by foreigners or even fellow citizens who are not close to her.
That she had a very serious health incident is not to be doubted (those who do are clearly haters with obsessed and evil minds), but it was not and should not be inflated to "near death experience" to stir up doubts about whether she could get healthy again ! It was ... a serious accident, requiring care, rehab, and rest, but the best WE can do is thinking positively, sending well wishes, encouragement for her. Nobody among fans should even think of boycotting her past, present, or future work because of misguided and selfish holier than thou fanning flames temptation.
Just how far misguided comments go : I have seen comments advising her to emigrate to the USA!!!! She is a patriot, as many of her countrymen, and certainly has no wish to exile! Attacks on the "system" and of course going all the way to "evil China" or "evil Xi" (hey Xi is no god and has nothing to do with c-drama world, at most his wife was a singer, but a PLA artist first so... not anything in common). I also saw in videos and posts, attacks ad hominem on people because of the rumors, that we ultimately don't know exactly if and how they are founded, but which triggered stinging open letter reactions which could lead to lawsuits where Rosy doesn't have proof enough to support her supposed claims (she just explained generally but was careful not to go name dropping); it is certainly a heartache, but just don't fan flames that can get back to target her... and not much can be done about the cyberbullies, unfortunately (even here on MDL, blocking and reporting does not always get the expected just results). In China, the law has dealt with some slanderers that were recognizable.
Let's stay reasonable, distance from any extremism, support Rosy's work (and her colleagues') anyway. Boycott of a venue, because some owners or people in power there stink and get money (tax?) from it, never benefits an artist.
I do admit that even as a VIP paying member to the main platforms, and even as paying member of some channels on Youtube, I am disappointed with quality of subtitles, availability of shows, pictures, and freedom from pesky ads despite it be promised in contract.
As I wrote somewhere else, 2025 will be tougher for many people, not only c-drama fans while recession, business changes and massive layoffs, war mongering, natural catastrophes and typhoons, drought, heatwaves, mammoth fires, new and old viruses..... threat the world at large. But let's hope still for brighter times with more caring and sharing...
But it's not like they can't wait because time slot is too short since they were granted 24 months starting Oct2024, enough to encompass disaster and reconstruction, or a really serious accident - her breakdown comes totally under that category, with need for care, rehab and rest.
So shall we hope perhaps to see her back on her feet facing cameras, photoshoots, interviews etc not earlier than mid Feb, and yes, perhaps more reasonably, from sometime in March when she will not have to face freezing temperatures as they use to subject actors to on sets.
Hoping they'll adjust her work schedules then, so as not to squeeze the sweet orange for its generous juice as they used to, till only the thin peel was left!
But I think she may not be up to do all the exciting things she used to do for the coming CNY.
Perhaps she'll wait till after that period, if she is strong enough then. There's an 8 day public holiday until Feb 04, and I suppose she could still rest and recover till Lantern festival is over. These periods are hectic with galas, promotions, and modeling duties, and if she still felt she could not face crowds yesterday, then it's better to wait after all those busy times are out of the way before expecting her to work again.
The workload also ought to be kept lighter for a while, lest she goes back to work herself to the bones and worse again.
https://mydramalist.com/discussions/chinese-actors-actresses/70027-stars-in-the-rose-pavilion?pid=3226312&page=45#p3226312
I am curious about how it will unfold too, when the crazy Liu Chang will recognize her, while he is marrying the Princess as main wife. He'd better shut up, look away, and not be the cause of another murder attempt, because Jiang can shoot pretty accurately as we know!
(I did not read the book ; anyway, I understand this is again one drama that "adapts" freely, so i am along for the ride, and enjoying it)
Exploring the fandom of some of the actors can be interesting, though, to understand the "idols" and their followers beyond their drama or movie work. It's a pity that some followers can be manipulated into fan wars and cyberbullying.
If you see blatant insulting and bullying, don't hesitate to report the haters: their messages can get taken down by YouTube, although it is more complicated on MDL.