ooops I spoke too early. This drama does mention bad teachers and bad parents and BAD POLICE lmao . I just watched ep 6 and one teacher / several parents and police are exposed for doing bad things. The problem parents are overprotective of their kids..
Still, it is pretty amazing how stupid the women and girls are portrayed in this drama - why cant the female teacher just BLOCK the phone of a nasty parent? And tell them - every parent told me to take their kid's side lmao Or even do what the ed police did lmao THAT WAS THE BEST my fav is ep 5 lmao or a girl taking some unknown pill - doesnt every kid these days know they shouldnt.... ????? or police telling the juvenile delinquents who reported them... those juvs bribed the police... ?
The fantasy of this drama is too painful to watch, bc the plot is based on overpowered MC who never does wrong…
I had to block some crude insulting user @mrrrr1 because they had nothing to say objectively, and resort to slander and personal offenses, JUST LIKE THE BULLIES IN THE DRAMA. Farewell to anyone like that
So Korean kids commit suicides? In the USA it is all done in gloves. In the usa, most of the kids take antidepressants from early age. Their parents conveniently NUMB them to get them out of the way and then later kids start taking drugs and/or shooting other kids
I dont know any American who has not taken drugs
So... what is described in this drama can be done in gloves too -
the main points of this drama are:
1. CHILDREN ARE ABANDONED BY ADULTS 2. ADULTS AND SOCIETY ARE ROTTEN
So the lesson learned from this drama should be - what kind of society do we want to build? Obviously, consumer driven capitalism is not working. We have destroyed environment, children, ourselves. The kids in these dramas have no parent attention bc parents are WORKING - either to barely make a living, or bc they want LOTS of money.
So what is better for the kids, adults, and the environment?
I don't think the heavy-handed social commentary translated well across cultures. And even though the fight scenes…
ah dont be delusional... lmao
In the usa, most of the kids take antidepressants from early age. Their parents conveniently NUMB them to get them out of the way and then later kids start taking drugs and/or shooting other kids
I dont know any American who has not taken drugs
So please .. open your eyes - what is described in this drama can be done in gloves too - the main point is that CHILDREN ARE ABANDONED BY ADULTS
I love how there are only two ways of discourse regarding this: one side hating it, the second one enjoying it…
i disagree i dont have it, I dont love it i think it is a rather cheep and cheesy flawed attempt to bring forth some important topics -
this drama has a Superman-like MC... the drama's main idea is using Superman to correct world's evil of course it doesnt work
So until this GENERAL SOCIETAL SITUATION changes, the bad guys have a free reign And the general situation will NOT change by teachers beating the students or parents beating the students. it can change ONLY if the students inwardly know what is right and what is wrong and stand up together against any violations.
So.... imo this is a delulu drama that puts ppl to sleep. However, at least it puts some important issues up front to be at least SEEN
he doesnt know the truth yet . he thinks his mother hasnt kill anyone yet .. when he find out about his bio-dad…
oh you are right! my bad But Hj knows about his mother killing as the caretaker ... does he know about his mother killiing MJ's mother? or most recently, MJ and JJ?
The fantasy of this drama is too painful to watch, bc the plot is based on overpowered MC who never does wrong and never gets hurt and has miraculously powerful powers, and has political backing that is based on integrity and never goes away. IT IS A FANTASY FOR SURE.
In real life, this "education police" is ripe for abuse. Sure these super hard cases are solved but in real life, the lines would get blurred so easily and teachers are not all angels and victims are not all angels And in real life, victims and abusers are usually from troubled families, sometimes poor and sometimes rich, and rich and powerful are definitely privileged and often abusive, so those deep societal issues have to be addressed
yeah dont hate her but do NOT take pity either, what she did was EVIL
and yeah the drama made it too simple and made teachers into angels, but teachers, pastors, and many other "responsible" adults in charge of kids - INCLUDING PARENTS AND FAMILY - molest and sexually exploit children, and this was just glossed over in this drama
I wish that the teacher who exploited YN was exposed in the drama
how does it share universe with study group 🤔any refrence?
in study group, good students beat up bad students. Here an adult education police beats up bad students Same beating fights kind of drama except here ADULTS do the beating up
Calling someone stupid who committed suicide is wrong on many levelsYou just killed him again with wordsMost of…
Young stupid REACTIVE deer are the ones who get hunted down and killed. A careful smart deer lives to old age.
Kids who put fingers into electrical sockets are stupid.
I understand what you are saying, but also, you need to understand what I am saying. That kid was not 3 yrs old. He was almost an adult. How long do you want to protect ppl from life? How much do you allow anti-survival behaviors? Do you really believe that any foolish decision should be forgiven based on youth??? Like that judge who sentenced the student who KILLED his teacher to only 4 yrs of jail.
The synonyms for stupid are IMMATURE and REACTIVE and FOOLISH and yeah the kiddo was stupid definitely that kind of thinking is anti-survival and definitely NOT smart. Not talking to his dad, not thinking of the future are all stupid, reactive, immature decisions
and that kid was old enough to try something better
I was out a little bit with some emergencies, and I missed about 2 weeks, am still super short on time, so I am carefully picking which dramas to watch. My strategy was to watch 1-2 last eps to determine. Surprisingly THIS drama won the competition for my time. I watched the last 2 episodes and wow was impressed and so I started skimming through eps I missed and wow found the scene at the grave of Jin Ju and her father - wow HJ and Chloe had an AMAZING scene!!!!! HJ actor is now the key actor as he wrestles with all the conflicts that HJ has inwardly and outwardly, the pressure HJ has to grow or make really greavely deadly wrong mistakes, and the actor is nailing it! Yay
So I might have to watch all the eps I missed :) I am actually impressed with this drama bc the script is working out the inner and outer conflicts, and the actors are really portraying it. The characters are forced to absorb new info and change as they encounter new information
I do wish that Chloe was written as more complex.... the writer made her into a robot who just selfishly thinks of her revenge. It is SO BORING. That actress can do so much more. Please, make Chloe more complex.
I wish that MJ actor get some private lessons in acting asap bc he is the weakest link here (the second worst, the worst is the secretary of the Aunt/Mom but she does not matter - but MJ does matter!!!!! that role has to be done by a skilled actor) and that the script makes MJ character deeper. MJ has so much inner conflicts too. Work them out.
Chairman actor is just amazing in that role, so real.
His wife YR was such a boring one-dimensional psychopath but in recent episodes she became more complex - on one hand, we see her as a real mom to HJ and someone who knows what real love is and how necessary it is - and on the other hand, she became a lot more cruel bloody killer almost killing HJ's real dad.
HJ's real dad is an exaggeration and it fits this role, in a mockery, we see how a good person can serve the evil
Overall, this drama started as such a soapy soap and had its soapy moments but it is an amazingly well done drama, actually.
lol how did OJR ever let her assistant get some? 😂 he is so "uncle" looking. nothing about him is attractive…
he is cuddly to her, he kisses her as@ and does everything for her, and back then she was a nobody so she must have been flattered by his subservient admiration and blind dedicated service, so I am sure one night in desperate need she just grabbed him for additional services And maybe she used him later as a live s.x toy too - and maybe even while being married to Chairman
lol I'm disappointed in the lack of comments on this drama. 😂 it seems like everyone stopped watching. 😭…
I am watching it. I was out for a while bc of a family emergency and death, so I carefully went through dramas I was following before and - surprise! - found this one to be pretty good - it has inner work, conflicts in and out being worked out, and that is quite well done
This review builds on the great review by @HappyPacket. I watched only 3 eps so far and I really appreciate the SA, beating, cell phones, etc issues the review pointed out so astutely
I agree that the drama went overboard with portraying teachers ONLY as good guys , and giving them permission to beat up students too, like hitting students' palms with a stick
Imo the drama went overboard too with portraying victims as stupid, dumb, naive, isolated, and/or passive, as victims incapable of self defending - but I think that was done to exaggerate to really show the traits that all victims do have And the drama went slightly overboard to show how the other students and teachers did not care - but again it really showed what it REALLY LOOKS LIKE IN REAL LIFE - the environment of selfishness.
Hiding real SA *sexual assault and harassment" is a LOT MORE COMMON than false accusations of SA, and I agree that the real SA should have been addressed. That "livestream influencer" girl was first a victim of real SA. Teachers and many adults do such bad stuff to kids and other adults, and most victims just eat the sh.t and stay silent, and if they speak up, the society shuns them, because the perpetrator is usually a skilled sociopath/psychopath. in this case, the victim got into revenge mode and turned into an evil sociopath herself.
I am also glad that the false accusation of SA was brought up as a part of sociopathical manipulation, bc sociopaths are actually very common and we never talk about it.
In this case, the drama showed us how a sociopath works, and it was very obvious, nobody from the audience could miss it in. In real life, it is often done behind the scenes, the sociopath manipulates people OTHER than the victim via gossip, gaslighting, making deals, and turns other ppl against the victim - so the other people "beat up"/destroy the victim, and the lying sociopath stays well hidden. SOCIOPATHS ARE SUPER DANGEROUS BECAUSE THEY ARE "NICE PEOPLE" AND EXTREMELY WELL HIDDEN. MUCH OF BAD STUFF IN THE WORLD HAPPENS BY SOCIOPATHIC MANIPULATION where the sociopath manipulates others to harm/destroy the victim and the sociopath stays hidden and "innocent". https://www.recoveryplusjournal.com/2017/10/the-empathy-trap/
and yeah there are also psychopaths, the ones who directly attack, and often from a well camouflaged position, usually in a positions of power, like Congressman and his son. Most who you call "sadists" are actually psychopaths
The last thing that the other review did not mention and imo is the KEY to everything is that all this beating up of few bad guys and the teachers beating up any student is .... very stupid bandaiding. Yeah sure there are always some sociopaths/psychopaths who are bad apples and cause problems. BUT The real problems are all the OTHER students, who never said a word, who blindly obeyed bullies, who GENUINELY LAUGHED at bullies' beating up, humiliating the victims. *** THAT *** is the problem. The real problem is that we saw ONE other student who was raising questions and trying to raly other students, but we also saw how all other students just ran away. The real problem is that we saw only 3 complaints to this "educational police" - how come no other students complained to anyone, not even other teachers or their own parents The real problem is that the victims were dumb and did not take any action. The real problem is that the bullied teachers were dumb and did not take any action. We saw some teacher talking about it but we never saw teachers join together to take action. The real problem is that the teachers and principal were corrupt and/or dumb and did not take any action The real problem is that the parents did not take any action. The bullying was either by kids who had parents who "beat up" / destroyed other kids' parents and teachers, or by kids who had no functional parents. The parents of bullied kids never took any proper action.... They did not know their kid was bullied.... they did not care.... OR they were naive and stupidly stood up to the bullies and destroyed themselves and the kid The parents of OTHER kids never took any action.... did their kid even tell them about bullying that prevented learning and destroyed students' lives?
So until this GENERAL SOCIETAL SITUATION changes, the bad guys have a free reign And the general situation will NOT change by teachers beating the students or parents beating the students. it can change ONLY if the students inwardly know what is right and what is wrong and stand up together against any violations.
I dislike the drama for so much violence. The "education police" beats up students, and students beat each other up just like in Weak Hero or Study Group. I will fast forward this for research, just to see what other people like to watch, and what the current bullying strategies are
going to jail is like ADVANCING in your criminal career.... of course, unless other prisoners dont kill you...
and some criminals are just ... reptilians and will NEVER change no matter what.... so ...
Still, it is pretty amazing how stupid the women and girls are portrayed in this drama - why cant the female teacher just BLOCK the phone of a nasty parent? And tell them - every parent told me to take their kid's side lmao Or even do what the ed police did lmao THAT WAS THE BEST my fav is ep 5 lmao
or a girl taking some unknown pill - doesnt every kid these days know they shouldnt.... ?????
or police telling the juvenile delinquents who reported them... those juvs bribed the police... ?
In the USA it is all done in gloves.
In the usa, most of the kids take antidepressants from early age. Their parents conveniently NUMB them to get them out of the way
and then later kids start taking drugs and/or shooting other kids
I dont know any American who has not taken drugs
So... what is described in this drama can be done in gloves too -
the main points of this drama are:
1. CHILDREN ARE ABANDONED BY ADULTS
2. ADULTS AND SOCIETY ARE ROTTEN
So the lesson learned from this drama should be - what kind of society do we want to build? Obviously, consumer driven capitalism is not working. We have destroyed environment, children, ourselves. The kids in these dramas have no parent attention bc parents are WORKING - either to barely make a living, or bc they want LOTS of money.
So what is better for the kids, adults, and the environment?
In the usa, most of the kids take antidepressants from early age. Their parents conveniently NUMB them to get them out of the way
and then later kids start taking drugs and/or shooting other kids
I dont know any American who has not taken drugs
So please .. open your eyes - what is described in this drama can be done in gloves too - the main point is that CHILDREN ARE ABANDONED BY ADULTS
i dont have it, I dont love it
i think it is a rather cheep and cheesy flawed attempt to bring forth some important topics -
this drama has a Superman-like MC... the drama's main idea is using Superman to correct world's evil
of course it doesnt work
So until this GENERAL SOCIETAL SITUATION changes, the bad guys have a free reign
And the general situation will NOT change by teachers beating the students or parents beating the students. it can change ONLY if the students inwardly know what is right and what is wrong and stand up together against any violations.
So.... imo this is a delulu drama that puts ppl to sleep.
However, at least it puts some important issues up front to be at least SEEN
But Hj knows about his mother killing as the caretaker ...
does he know about his mother killiing MJ's mother?
or most recently, MJ and JJ?
In real life, this "education police" is ripe for abuse. Sure these super hard cases are solved but in real life, the lines would get blurred so easily
and teachers are not all angels and victims are not all angels
And in real life, victims and abusers are usually from troubled families, sometimes poor and sometimes rich, and rich and powerful are definitely privileged and often abusive, so those deep societal issues have to be addressed
and yeah the drama made it too simple and made teachers into angels, but teachers, pastors, and many other "responsible" adults in charge of kids - INCLUDING PARENTS AND FAMILY - molest and sexually exploit children, and this was just glossed over in this drama
I wish that the teacher who exploited YN was exposed in the drama
Korea at least has some morals left
The usa does NOT. It has turned into one huge orgy for all ages
Same beating fights kind of drama
except here ADULTS do the beating up
Kids who put fingers into electrical sockets are stupid.
I understand what you are saying, but also, you need to understand what I am saying. That kid was not 3 yrs old. He was almost an adult. How long do you want to protect ppl from life?
How much do you allow anti-survival behaviors? Do you really believe that any foolish decision should be forgiven based on youth??? Like that judge who sentenced the student who KILLED his teacher to only 4 yrs of jail.
The synonyms for stupid are IMMATURE and REACTIVE and FOOLISH
and yeah the kiddo was stupid definitely
that kind of thinking is anti-survival and definitely NOT smart. Not talking to his dad, not thinking of the future are all stupid, reactive, immature decisions
and that kid was old enough to try something better
Surprisingly THIS drama won the competition for my time. I watched the last 2 episodes and wow was impressed and so I started skimming through eps I missed and wow found the scene at the grave of Jin Ju and her father - wow HJ and Chloe had an AMAZING scene!!!!! HJ actor is now the key actor as he wrestles with all the conflicts that HJ has inwardly and outwardly, the pressure HJ has to grow or make really greavely deadly wrong mistakes, and the actor is nailing it! Yay
So I might have to watch all the eps I missed :)
I am actually impressed with this drama bc the script is working out the inner and outer conflicts, and the actors are really portraying it. The characters are forced to absorb new info and change as they encounter new information
I do wish that Chloe was written as more complex.... the writer made her into a robot who just selfishly thinks of her revenge. It is SO BORING. That actress can do so much more. Please, make Chloe more complex.
I wish that MJ actor get some private lessons in acting asap bc he is the weakest link here (the second worst, the worst is the secretary of the Aunt/Mom but she does not matter - but MJ does matter!!!!! that role has to be done by a skilled actor) and that the script makes MJ character deeper. MJ has so much inner conflicts too. Work them out.
Chairman actor is just amazing in that role, so real.
His wife YR was such a boring one-dimensional psychopath but in recent episodes she became more complex - on one hand, we see her as a real mom to HJ and someone who knows what real love is and how necessary it is - and on the other hand, she became a lot more cruel bloody killer almost killing HJ's real dad.
HJ's real dad is an exaggeration and it fits this role, in a mockery, we see how a good person can serve the evil
Overall, this drama started as such a soapy soap and had its soapy moments but it is an amazingly well done drama, actually.
so I am sure one night in desperate need she just grabbed him for additional services
And maybe she used him later as a live s.x toy too - and maybe even while being married to Chairman
I agree that the drama went overboard with portraying teachers ONLY as good guys , and giving them permission to beat up students too, like hitting students' palms with a stick
Imo the drama went overboard too with portraying victims as stupid, dumb, naive, isolated, and/or passive, as victims incapable of self defending - but I think that was done to exaggerate to really show the traits that all victims do have
And the drama went slightly overboard to show how the other students and teachers did not care - but again it really showed what it REALLY LOOKS LIKE IN REAL LIFE - the environment of selfishness.
Hiding real SA *sexual assault and harassment" is a LOT MORE COMMON than false accusations of SA, and I agree that the real SA should have been addressed. That "livestream influencer" girl was first a victim of real SA. Teachers and many adults do such bad stuff to kids and other adults, and most victims just eat the sh.t and stay silent, and if they speak up, the society shuns them, because the perpetrator is usually a skilled sociopath/psychopath.
in this case, the victim got into revenge mode and turned into an evil sociopath herself.
I am also glad that the false accusation of SA was brought up as a part of sociopathical manipulation, bc sociopaths are actually very common and we never talk about it.
In this case, the drama showed us how a sociopath works, and it was very obvious, nobody from the audience could miss it in. In real life, it is often done behind the scenes, the sociopath manipulates people OTHER than the victim via gossip, gaslighting, making deals, and turns other ppl against the victim - so the other people "beat up"/destroy the victim, and the lying sociopath stays well hidden. SOCIOPATHS ARE SUPER DANGEROUS BECAUSE THEY ARE "NICE PEOPLE" AND EXTREMELY WELL HIDDEN.
MUCH OF BAD STUFF IN THE WORLD HAPPENS BY SOCIOPATHIC MANIPULATION where the sociopath manipulates others to harm/destroy the victim and the sociopath stays hidden and "innocent". https://www.recoveryplusjournal.com/2017/10/the-empathy-trap/
and yeah there are also psychopaths, the ones who directly attack, and often from a well camouflaged position, usually in a positions of power, like Congressman and his son. Most who you call "sadists" are actually psychopaths
The last thing that the other review did not mention and imo is the KEY to everything is that all this beating up of few bad guys and the teachers beating up any student is .... very stupid bandaiding.
Yeah sure there are always some sociopaths/psychopaths who are bad apples and cause problems. BUT
The real problems are all the OTHER students, who never said a word, who blindly obeyed bullies, who GENUINELY LAUGHED at bullies' beating up, humiliating the victims. *** THAT *** is the problem.
The real problem is that we saw ONE other student who was raising questions and trying to raly other students, but we also saw how all other students just ran away.
The real problem is that we saw only 3 complaints to this "educational police" - how come no other students complained to anyone, not even other teachers or their own parents
The real problem is that the victims were dumb and did not take any action.
The real problem is that the bullied teachers were dumb and did not take any action. We saw some teacher talking about it but we never saw teachers join together to take action.
The real problem is that the teachers and principal were corrupt and/or dumb and did not take any action
The real problem is that the parents did not take any action. The bullying was either by kids who had parents who "beat up" / destroyed other kids' parents and teachers, or by kids who had no functional parents.
The parents of bullied kids never took any proper action.... They did not know their kid was bullied.... they did not care.... OR they were naive and stupidly stood up to the bullies and destroyed themselves and the kid
The parents of OTHER kids never took any action.... did their kid even tell them about bullying that prevented learning and destroyed students' lives?
So until this GENERAL SOCIETAL SITUATION changes, the bad guys have a free reign
And the general situation will NOT change by teachers beating the students or parents beating the students. it can change ONLY if the students inwardly know what is right and what is wrong and stand up together against any violations.
I dislike the drama for so much violence. The "education police" beats up students, and students beat each other up just like in Weak Hero or Study Group.
I will fast forward this for research, just to see what other people like to watch, and what the current bullying strategies are