InspectorMegre

she sounds like a scared, very small child :)

i notice that on this board it is not allowed to say any criticism or else you get shreded. The only allowed opinion in this cult group is to just woo over every single detail, no matter how hideous. Like, the sexual harassment at work forced kiss by the boss to his employee who does not even like him as much, at the end of ep 9

For the record:
The end of ep 9 forced stay and kiss is SEXUAL HARASSMENT; and furthermore, SEXUAL HARASSMENT BY A BOSS AT WORK TO HIS EMPLOYEE. It is abuse of power, since it is at work, and personal abuse, since she does not have as much feeling for him. On both counts, she said NO and he barged forward.
++++++ And not one single person commented on that. +++++++
I would bet now ppl will say something like "but ... it was ok." lol

This has to be said for the record in year 2025 bc this is truly 1950s drama and audience. I learned a lot here. This drama is my research project about global sexism in year 2025.

As for Seon U, he is cute. Even cuter than the ML. And his lady is super cute, lively, just lovely and truly wonderful, positive person. They are the eye candy, the warmth and gentle vibe

Yeah. The end of ep 9 forced stay and kiss is SEXUAL HARASSMENT AT WORK. She said no and he barged forward. And not one single person commented on that.

isnt the end forced kiss in his office of ep 9 sexual harassment at work... ??? nobody EVER said anything about it

Actually there IS a hidden drama .... a war and struggle LOL I am analyzing everything so in detail bc I am writing a federal lawsuit and other complaints against judges and attorneys stealng my home under the pretense of the law, and it is urgent since the baddies scheduled selling my home soon... and they plan to take a lot more than they should .... and basically steal everything I own. I am overwhelmed trying to keep up with the crazy sci fi actions of the courts, attorneys and condo buildings and management in Hawaii. IT IS SCI FI CORRUPT.

Stealing homes by shady legal proceedings is rather common in Hawaii... Actually, there is an epidemic in most of the USA. Predatory attorneys accuse you of bogus false stuff, make you pay some fines, you don,t they just take your home!!!! Then you have to sue them and that is costrly, stressful and risky since judges are on their side

If they cannot get you by fines etc, they file a frivolous lawsuit and ask judges to grant really shady actions. Judges have immunity "to make mistakes" and they violate the law to give your home to the predatory attorneys. And in the process they try to grab anything else you own.

AND NOBODY CARES. The law is NOT enforced. The target of these theft are a elderly, disabled, minorities, single women, PEOPLE WHO DO NOT HAVE SOCIAL CLOUT AND WHO ARE UNDER PREjUDICE. I was condemned by using social engineering and prejudice to justify taking my property.

SO I GOT VERY INTERESTED IN SOCIAL ENGINEERING AND PREJUDICE USED AS WEAPONS AGAINST OTHERS TO STEAL FROM THEM. ANd also how and why it happened to me and what I need to do to prevent bullying situations like that.

Being subject to a corrupt unjust trial is heart wrenching and stressful, and on top of it, I came to take care of my (very immature) mother, whom I ran away from decades ago, so that is a soul searching "inner strenghtening" heart wrenching activity as well... for the record: I realized my mother is exactly like the Dynamite Kiss audience. Uncanny.

And these events in my life require really diving deep into human psychology, understanding myself and others... So here I am, practicing my observations skills on the dramas :) to understand how ppl work, and to explain it.... and thus increase my ability to write complaints and that lawsuit clearly.

Dramas also helped me understand how crime / corruption works... Some of my story starts on change.org/hawaiicondo but sooo much more crazy illicit actions happened since then. I WOULD LOVE TO MAKE A DRAMA ABOUT THAT

So, what you are experiencing here on MDL is me wrestling with a lot of issues to be resolved and using dramas as a vehicle for understanding how ppl work. I am so bent on finding the truth bc I truly HAVE TO find the truth and a way to resolve things and "win" in my own life.
i better go back to writing my lawsuit now LOL

I replied to you on this in another comment. Was too lazy to look for this one :(

But I had to look or it again bc of your wording. What you said really made me think. you are so correct!!!! Indeed, ML's wardrobe is a totally separate character.

And the key to success of this drama is LETTING THAT CHARACTER OUT and blending that character with his other sides we already saw

??? How can you say it is about taking sides? I am on BOTH their sides :) Each is inherently a good person and also quite flawed.... and very clumzily trying to move forward towards each other. I am cheering them on

Oh you mean - some ppl think ML is right and some think FL is right to behave the way they are? yeah I can see that. There is lots of sexism.
If FL wanted to kiss, there would be no bad comments on her LOL imo

And I agree with that Naver article, it WOULD be nicer if ML and FL start communicating, that would make a more meaningful and interesting plot, so many more options.

The "misunderstandings, keeping quiet and lying" plot gets old fast. It is ok to have some of it bc it is a real thing in life, and it CAN make funny situations, but it also leads to total disasters and destruction and even wounds for life. It other words, it is TRAGIC ultimately. So imo a very masterful drama will show how the players clear any misunderstandings, willingly, on their own initiative, and always tell the truth to each other.

TELLING THE TRUTH AT THE RIGHT TIME AND IN THE WAY THE OTHER PERSON CAN HEAR IS AN AMAZING MASTERFUL SKILL. Showing that skill in a drama would be amazing. Esp bc that skill comes with trying and failing many times and then trying again.

Blind gray masses love endless misunderstandings and lying bc it is probably something normal to them, and bc it is mindless and bc blind gray masses love watching pain and suffering and tragedy, so perhaps to attract more viewers, some of it has to stay more than some of us would like, but balance has to be struck there LOL

AAAAGH!!! @bbchops just helped me see when they said that ML's wardrobe looks like a separate character! IT DAWNED ON ME - ML's HIDEOUS FASHION SCREAMS THAT HE IS YOUNG, WILD, AND CRAZY and that is the key to matching in age with FL, who is technically young but never showed that side so far. That hidden side of him will be a super glue for them.
ADDED LATER: what I call hideous fashion is apparently latest Korean fashion for young men - the silk shawls and pink pants - I just saw it on the model ML at work in drama Spirit Fingers. Wow. It is one thing to see it on a model and another thing to see worn it in "real life" on this ML... SO anyways, ML here is wearing the latest Korean male fashion "from the runway"

His silk scarves and pink pants and chains make him look like a 20yr old player, you know, that kind of charming dude death-for-chicks who loves having fun and partying, driving his race car to exciting places. This one is totally clean, so his fun will be clean, but crazy. WE ALREADY HAVE A GLIMPSE OF THAT WITH HIS RACE CAR... Oh silly me, I never took his race car seriously.... .!!!! but it is a testimony of his tastes and inner desires.... his preferences... what he dreams of.... what he likes to do.... His pajamas and robes in vivid colors makes him look childlike, playful and creative, innovative. .

As audience, I enjoyed being this fooled LOL I learned soemthing about myself (his fashion was so ugly to me that I was blind to seeing what it represented... I was so annoyed with his whining that I did not see past it... then I was so fooled with his immature nerdish side that I totally failed to see that behind it was the RACE CAR personality... I fell into the trap that I so despise, putting ML into a "box" and attaching ONE label to him... yeah I suspected there is more and I fond him fun and rooted for him, but still, I was treating him as ....a flat character when he is super complex .... ),

IN OTHER WORDS, I COULD NOT SEE ML RIGHT IN FRONT OF MY ME - bc I had prejudice glasses on lol He was not under my nose or in front of my nose. He was right in front of me and there was NO excuse for not seeing him.. But I did not see him LOL LOL LOL

This shock of suddenly realizing what it was that I was looking at for 10 episiodes is so comical.... the twist is unexpected and shocking LOL and very hilarious fun.

it is like 'find Waldo" game, discovering new layers of the drama character :)

I feel glee, like I just found a Waldo :)

I think to make a drama / movie super masterful, this shocking revelation has to be induced earlier, so that there is more time for more revelations..

I did! I just fixed that typo Thanks for the feedback!

I will answer your other comment here about ML's wardrobe. because it fits with the bumbling KPG .. and the OTHER fun crazy wild young side of him... that we have just a suspicion of bc of his wardrobe...

you said is wardrobe makes it look like a totally separate character. What you said got me thinking!!! Indeed!!!! That is so!!!

I dont mind his pajamas and bathrobes. I would wear the same at home. LOL and I do love bright colors :) I would wear the similar things he is wearing....

But his silk scarves and pink pants and chains... ... ough hideous imo...
I personally was just put off with the hideous fashion so I did not think beyond that wall of YUCK!!! reaction of mine, but you are right!!!!

The key thing is that his silk scarves and pink pants and chains makes him look like a ... very young player.

So our shy nerdy ML has that racy side to him... Adventuresome, exotic, wild, crazy,. glam, ..... and that part makes up for his age difference with FL. Bc she lacks that glam playful party side.

And that side of him is the other side of the bumbling shy nerdy side and the prickly whiney spoiled diva side that we saw so far... and got fooled with LOL LOL LOL

I feel totally fooled now :) I am glad we debunked it LOL This is actually pretty delightful, how this character was hiding right in front of our noses... WHAT A TWIST!!!

So ... I suspect this means vacations in Hawaii on the beach, not with mai tais but with flower shirts and watching hula and going on boat rides, snorkeling, and surf lessons... and romantic evenings by the moonlights... and such things.

Lots of explorations and fun and a super romantic and fun relationship between ML and FL

wow if you cannot see why she should change then ... there is no point in talking. I will try but I really do not expect for you to even read this.... ARE YOU AWARE OF CONCEPT "PERSONAL GROWTH" WHICH IS A LIFELONG PROCESS FOR ALL, GOOD OR BAD? You seem to view people as static, like rocks, never changing... People SHOULD change. For better. People SHOULD WORK HARD TO CHANGE for better. If that is not how you live, then there is nothing to talk about.
She should not change her lying... insecurity... powerlessness... feeling like a victim... delusions... communication... etc?

I like your review, bc it is so accurate. I did not know you wrote this many reviews when you commented on mine LOL Only when you mentioned this review, I went to look for it and found zillions of your witty and accurate reviews.

If you dropped the this drama, perhaps you did not watch .... . ML was a controling psycho at the start, then used her, then played with her bc she kisses hot and he wanted to bag her, then was sad when she ghosted, ... then ... later.... angry when he discovered she was married... then... SHE IS AH SO CARING AND NICE.... and ML got to develop some feelings for her, and that combined with his controlling entitled nature, turned him into a BULL IN MATING SEASON, all hormones no brains.... I have seen till ep 9 and that is the situation

ML is genuinely in love after ep....?. I forget which. At first, he was just a controlling cold predator, got interested in her kiss, and he started bagging her... but then .... she disappeared and he realized HE WANTS HER BC SHE KISSED HIM HOT .. and he did not get to finish eating his pray. So he genuinely gets mad bc he wants to finish eating his pray and then gets sad bc it did not happen... and his pray is right there in front of his nose.... and this feeling of infatuation even becomes some kind of caring feeling and then a more genuine love feeling.

As they say, the path to men's heart is food LOL or ... s@x.... or ... god forbid, character LOL on top of other things

So anyways, he did show genuine care towards her but it was always bc she was yummy and he was curious JUST BC OF THAT.

SO ML turns out to be a bull in mating season, all hormones and no brains.

This is the situation before ep 9.

Yes indeed, WELL SAID, 100% agree.

I think there is more..... this is the tip of the iceberg.

The iceberg itself is enslavement and exploitation of women that went on for thousands of years. FL and ML in that drama are symbols of that era and that thinking.

The Asian flavor of it is a chaste damsel in distress.. Western version is a Barbie Doll s@x toy damsel in distress.. So Western media always uses and abuses filling the movies and series with explicit s#x... This drama has too many s@xual scenes - kissing or trying to, and some bed scenes that are TMI imo. This cheap stuff sells...

This drama imo combines the worst of asian version of patriarchy and Western media cesspool...

Patriarchy ruled the earth for thousands of years and basically enslaved women, 50% of population, into being slaves, working for free stuck inside home, without any money and power to control the resources. This is done so that 50% of population (males) has control of 100% of resources. THE BASIS OF JUSTIFYING THIS IS THAT A WOMAN IS TOO DUMB AND WEAK AND POWERLESS AND EMOTIONALLY UNSTABLE TO EVEN SURVIVE.

Early humans were matriarchal societies, apparently, so this patriarchy started somehow... I am sure this started somehow relted bc a man has 7 times more muscle power than a woman of the same size....
indeed a man fights better with lions and indeed can haul a deer home and build a house fast... and indeed can fight intruders and indeed can provide some good s@x... so probably some horny woman let her darling take over the bed and then out of complacency let him "take care of it all for her" ... or maybe some strong guys defended their clans and thus became leaders....

and then the guys took over and matriarchy was GONE. Women became slaves. Glorified slaves LOL Glorified domestic animals... praised for producing children (aka more soldiers, work labor, and connections and influence) and for working non-stop to maintain males who just show up to rule and enjoy the privileges

IN THE PATRIARCHAL WORLD, A WOMAN IS INDEED OFFICIALLY POWERLESS... SHE IS PROPERTY OF HER FATHER AND THEN HUSBAND.... AND SURVIVES ONLY IF A MAN IS HER FRONT.

AND WOMEN RESORT TO CUNNING AND S#X TO GET WHAT THEY WANT AND NEED. bc that is the only path available. And men are thus afraid of women... and there is a huge distrust on both sides... And women fight other women in this never-ending fight to find the male who will be THE BEST ONE to protect them...

So basically we are talking animal behavior, just more complex.

But it is actually a LOT more worse bc... both men and women are manipulated and exploited. Men are taught to be cruel and heartless and emotionless bc... they too are used as pions... they are the soldiers and henchman of the elites... they are the dogs that work for the elites... without blinking an eye, they destroy and die ... at war or corporate desk.... they are bland, empty WORKER / SOLDIER ROBOTS .... ...

and women are slaves who act and do all the care, kindness and nurturing, and restore and maintain these robots... Women are slaves who act as psychiatric nurses, who do all the work producing, raising and maintatining robots, who do all the daily care, feeding, chores, that is necessary to produce and grow new robots and support and maintain the operating robots.

IT IS LIKE A FARM, OWNED AND RUN BY SOME EVIL PPL who make sure that all the robots and slaves never communicate and always distrust and harass and cheat each other, trying to rise to the top levels of robots and slaves... never letting each other escape, always dragging each other down back into the hell...

Basically, someone owns a tank of crabs, uses them as food, and fuels their instinct to drag each other down into the cauldron

And meanwhile, someone on the top pulls all the strings and abuses this army of animals they roped in to work on their behalf, That someone on the top is wealthy and privileged and manipulates the masses - since these robots and slaves are totally easy to manipulate. DK audience comments demonstrated that soooo well...

And DK is all about that. It hits all those key point of patriarchy,
As you said, ML is controlling, cruel, rich, entitled, etc totally devoid of feeling
and FL is irrational, dumb, spaced out, powerless, loser, emotional, etc AND SHE SOFTENS THE HEART OF THAT MAN AND THEY LIVE HAPPILY EVER AFTER.

That is the dream, the illusion of all slaves and robots stuck in this hierarchy All those loser women fantasize they can stay a flawed character and get a super sugar daddy to take care of them and adore them no matter how immature and flawed they are,

and all robots fantasize how they will get a stupid but sexy and kind slave who will take care of them and provide fun - s#x, attention, care, etc that will recharge them and keep them going

STUPID MEN LIKE DUMB WOMEN. THEY ARE EASY TO CONTROL

DK plays on all these tropes and that's why I called it 1950s but it is really... 1200s attitudes LOL

To me, reading the comments on DK and interacting there was a life education that is priceless. I finally concluded that the common denominator of all ppl who liked that drama is just ... lack of intelligence, weakness, certain self pity and false pride, and entitlement, if I have to put one word labels on it.

For example.... The fans truly do not understand the concept of personal growth. They think if someone is "good and kind person" there is no room for more improvement, and if such a person decided to lie "out of need", it is acceptable. That audience is suuuuper good in concocting illogical excuses, which they consider "facts"..... I have not seen a trace of objectivity in fans of that drama... ....

ok, but you are helping me write that review :) So can I quote you in the review?

My pet peeve is Dynamite Kiss drama. It is going backwards to 1950s plot of stupid kind and sexy damsel in distress saved by a strong, loving, loyal, rich cruel man who turns all soft bc of her. Then she keeps doing stupid things and he keeps saving her. In DK, she trips/falls or drowns or gets cut or somehow injured LITERALLY several times per episode, and he is always there to save her. This kind o plot is prevalent in many kdramas and it is 10000 % sexism.
THE AUDIENCE ON MDL PAGE FOR DK LOVES IT. They totally defend FL and feel sorry for ML. The amount of blindly illogical comments I saw there is astounding.
I think it helps bc DK is full of sexual scenes, they kiss or try to at least once per episode, and there are explicit bed scenes, so all of that portrays ... well... very cheap script and going in th direction o Hollywood cesspool... s@x and violence. So it is the worst of kdramas combined with the worst of the West.

Graceful Liar at least started with FL with brains and ability and willingness to ACT and that shattered the stereotype advertised by too many kdramas.
Still FL is IMMATURE but at least not as before
And ML is not this Superman super moral and super perfect type who saves FL every two seconds

and so that's why I am interested in seeing this FL grow and tht's why I said she is very contemporary

Well, I think you went off here being blindsided and subjective.

First, he was acting out of his DESIRE for FL. THat is a force that leads to all kinds o STUPID STUPID STUPID actions. Please do not underestimate it. I do not know how old you are, but adults can be totally blindsided with desire and do really bad stuff... It is actually quite common...

All adults are like kids on a playground... you see a toy you want and you go grab it and push other kids... In adult world, the toy is ... money, power, people, attention, prestige, etc etc etc ...

So HN is just grabbing this toy called JW.... that's all.

Second, his sister is a villain. She is really nasty, entitled jerk. She is made that way by their mother and HN never put much effort to help her grow. Understand his position, she is not really his sister and her mother is protective of her., and also, he does not want to interfere in mother's plans. He cannot intervene much. He tried some... Yeah sure he could have done some more :) But it is tricky. And NOT convenient and not easy...

Exactly!!! ****** the last paragraph you wrote is an excellent review of this drama ****** . I suggest you write it out as your own review. I would add that she acted on her own GREED and deluded herself that she is doing revenge. And imo she was NOT successful. Yesh she got some pretty clothes and some money to spend, but she was so anxious and always taking some pills... She was a wreck, could not even sleep

I wrote my review after ep 7 so it was quite outdated. Thanks to your feedback, I added review after ep 52. Thank you for your feedback.

Oh sure, thank you for showing me how you are thinking, I did NOT mean to say THAT :) I will fix it. I will change "all" to "many" as this is truly a common thing - to do something unethical to move on forward. Men do that bc it is expected in the patriarchal system, so I will not comment on it now, but women SHOULD NOT do that bc they are trying to change the system, and they still do it...

Women do that because they feel powerless and cornered. From small things like being mean to other women, to big things like kicking other women to get ahead, all the way to say using flirting and even seduction to get their way. Typically it is just upholding patriarchy and playing along, acting the female stereotype - submissive, dumb, caring, etc.