hey ya all. This drama is 60% over and Da Rim in ep 8 is THE SAME AS IN EP 1, that is the problem. ZERO CHARACTER…
I said this: Da Rim is THE SAME AS IN THE BEGINNING, that is the problem. She can start from anywhere but she gotta move on forward. She has NOT . So I am not talking about one incident, like lying to get a job. Oh are you confused about "BEGINNING" ? I meant beginning of the drama. In fact, my post implies that I am ok with her lying to get a job. I am clearly complaining about what happens later.
DR *** keepS *** lying although she has many opportunities to fess up. That is the problem.
Growth in the last episodes is waaay to late. The growth has to start before the mid of the drama to accomplish some before the end. To give it a good measure, at about 30% of the drama, we should see her cracking her old shell and starting to transform. As this drama is going, no growth will happen.
Do you mean growth as ... wedding? Heck that is NOT growth :) "Growth" means inner change, not some external event
Da Rim has to stop lying and learn to communicate honestly etc
That's how her character is been written, that's why she never finished Uni, and had a stable job at 30+ also…
Yeah good points. You made me realize the mom jobs issue.
Imo, 2ML is great bc he is exactly like FL, he clings to what he wants and then lies and cheats to get it and what he wants is safety and comfort, easy way. Very immature and a perfect match for FL. Birds of the same feather flock together. I really appreciate him being there. It is amazing that FL supporters do not see 2ML as sort of her male counterpart.
I am bothered by ML, he is a bull in a mating season, only hormones, no brains, and he is overly controlling, smart, rich, handsome guy, who acts as a sugar daddy and a knight in shining armor saving FL like 10 times per episode... since she is such a clutz...
so far, this is such a sexist stereotype drama where a rather dumb, insecure, clumzy loser woman NEEDS a man who will take care of her bc otherwise she cannot function in this world. She would have been literally DEAD..... That sexist message is the theme of too many kdramas (and maybe other asian dramas, I am not sure) and very often globally. It is rotten brainwashing.
The drama keeps FL the same old same old for at least 8 out of 14 episodes, with zero growth. That message is so toxic. It advertises the idea that people - esp women - never grow and change out o their loser selves.
to be useful and interesting, the drama needs to show ML and FL equally contributing in their own ways, being independent but synergistic, and openly and honestly sharing with each other. Proper communication is the key, and it happens only from proper inner state, which requires inner work. Like... Missing Piece Meets the Big O youtube video :)
Just like Da Rim is dirty fighting to keep her job, he is dirty fighting to keep his companion. You cannot defend…
SW also has a back story LOL how come you dont honor his back story....? He is a single dad... it is a heavy story too... and he is clearly very damaged... He is relentlessly clinging to someone who was always safe and kind to him and he is afraid he is gonna lose her, so JUST LIKE DARIM, HE IS LYING AND CHEATING TO GET WHAT HE WANTS AND NEEDS. Dont you think SW needs a nice woman to share with? And just like DR who wants a forbidden job, he wants a forbidden woman. They are both the same kind. Going the easy way, by lying, and then keep lying and lying anda lying. .
It is absolutely FASCINATING how you cling to Da Rim's past. Right now, she got a job and a smart guy who cares. And she keeps lying and lying and lying.... So why are you are soooo stuck on her past to defend her total lack of progress on her inner self TODAY.
The only reason I think ppl are so sensitive about protecting DR is bc ppl have the same kind of life and want to protect their own lying and avoiding by blaming it on some distant past
hey ya all. This drama is 75% over and Da Rim is THE SAME AS IN THE BEGINNING, that is the problem. She can start…
wow that is rad ... you really think she has no room for improvement? not even like... lying? hiding? delusions? insecurity? learning to swim? Learning to focus and not trip every 2 seconds? wow... I can see how you are thinking - do you identify with her, is there something you do that she does that you want to "protect"?
Why WOULD anyone hate Da Rim??? She is just an ignorant immature kid causing trouble with her complacency. She…
Hm you are so stuck in the past. ML showed a lot more traits. and your logic... So Da RIm is ONLY a caring, good person.... ? And is so perfect at the moment, you would not change ANYTHING about her?
Seems like you are totally unaware that there is something called PERSONAL GROWTH and that is a lifelong process that requires effort, and never stops, no matter how "good and caring" person you are
The real happy ending is characters grow and become better ppl. I am not sure that will happen here
I personally think this is a rather lousy drama bc it misses the point, and it misses the fun. I do not feel hate.
Being accused of hate is one thing that is interesting here this audience sees everything as either LOVE or HATE so inherently, by design, there is absolutely NO ROOM FOR GROWTH bc AS SOON AS YOU EXPOSE SOMETHING TO BE IMPROVED, IT IS CONSIDERED "HATE"....
In other words, this audience is like a cult, either you stick 100% with the agenda or you are a hateful enemy.
So far this drama is an excellent research project. I learned so much from meeting so many ppl who defend toxicity and enjoy their brain turned off. Some are smart and some are not. But everyone is a master of lying and "yes but" strategies to defend themselves. It is helping me to understand something important.
When we turn the brain off with something delusional and toxic, some kind of escape from OURSELVES, it means we are overwhelmed and also... we lost hope.
That is one of the main takes for me from here. Meeting so many people who lost hope and who truly believe that the life Da Rim lives is acceptable, normal, realistic.... and that a way to deal with it all is to just turn the brain off by something toxic.
I will keep thinking about it.
FYI Masterful stories are fun and super deep and allow space for everyone to see the story at their own level. This drama is not that. My Roomate is a Gumiho is.
That's how her character is been written, that's why she never finished Uni, and had a stable job at 30+ also…
So what? That was in early episodes. You are saying Da Rim has to stay stuck in her past??? Da Rim right now has a real job, she has met a smart guy who cares for her, and so she has to adapt and grow. Hey , Da Rim had like 8 episodes to GROW. Are you saying the interviews from early episodes is what is preventing her from growing today? Think again.
Da Rim - and anyone - always has choices. If her university is so bad, then make it good somehow. An amazing project, entering a competition, getting a side degree or certificate from another university are some choices if Da Rim wants jobs that require a good university. Another choice is going for jobs where her university is valued
These are all choices for Da Rim. She made a choice to lie to get into a kind of job that requires good education. OK that is how she started. At the start of any drama, characters are flawed, by default. But how this continues is TOXIC. Da Rim *STAYS STUCK IN HER FAULTS*
Da Rim keeps making bad choices out of the same unhealthy patterns. It is her choice to lie and keep lying even when she has a chance to fess up.
Da Rim stays stagnant, keeps lying and hiding. There is no chink in her armor of lies and sticking to "safety" by lying. She and SU have the same emotional pattern of clinging to safety by lying and hiding.
This is how Da Rim is by the script, kept in stagnation and oblivion for over 75% of the show. She is the same insecure liar Da Rim as in ep 1.
To me, that is WEIRD.. SAD.. TOXIC... WASTEFUL... . Staying the same old same for so long. It is a waste of time. It makes the drama boring and meaningless. TOXIC.
The real happy ending is characters grow and become better ppl. I am not sure that will happen here
Yeah I hear you. Your opinion and all the comments here helped me to see that.
Character growth is not about becoming "a good person" but becoming the best version of yourself. So even a very mature and kind person has plenty of room for character growth. So you can just imagine how much room for growth is there for the FL the chronic liar and loser... or for SU clinging... or for ML mating bull without brains.... and so on. FL and SU are the ones with least maturity and with the most issues to be resolved. FL has to stop lying.
ML and esp FL need a HUGE character growth. He is about 12 and she is about 3 yrs old.
And yeah this audience cannot see it .... does not care about it... and even - does not want it.
And yeah now I get it, "rom com" is a term to designate movies for such audience....
"Rom Com" means "a brainless fantasy story to kill the time". Isnt that what hollywood churns out?
But isnt it sad. I would love to watch a very serious rom com. Something funny but very deep and meaningful and realistic.
This drama is 75% over and Da Rim is THE SAME AS IN THE BEGINNING, that is the problem. She can start from anywhere but she gotta move on forward. She has NOT. And you ok with that..... and defending it aggressively....
Lying is definitely wrong from a moral perspective. But what really hit me about Da-rim is how much she’s struggling,…
Ah ... but LOL
This drama is 75% over and Da Rim is THE SAME AS IN THE BEGINNING, that is the problem. She can start from anywhere but she gotta move on forward. She has NOT. And you ya all ok with that..... and defending it with your buts ....
Love is also a luxury in real world I mean da rim didn't even have the choice....I can't hate herIk ji Hyeok inner…
The point of a drama is to start with a flawed person and show them growing. This drama is 75% over and Da Rim is THE SAME AS IN THE BEGINNING, that is the problem. She can start from anywhere but she gotta move on forward. She has NOT.
Don't ask for logic. They're the dumbest fake couple with zero brain cells. It an insult to friendship to even…
so many ppl did. One youtube infliuencer did too... The drama is too boring and easy to miss details. "Another party announcement" was another scene, way before the party, it was too fast and too long ago
I don't agree with you. We clearly see Ji Hyeok’s perspective, she doesn’t even know he likes her. She’s…
This drama is 75% over and Da Rim is THE SAME AS IN THE BEGINNING, that is the problem. She can start from anywhere but she gotta move on forward. She has NOT. And you ok with that..... and defending it aggressively....
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. So I am not talking about one incident, like lying to get a job. Oh are you confused about "BEGINNING" ? I meant beginning of the drama. In fact, my post implies that I am ok with her lying to get a job. I am clearly complaining about what happens later.
DR *** keepS *** lying although she has many opportunities to fess up. That is the problem.
Growth in the last episodes is waaay to late. The growth has to start before the mid of the drama to accomplish some before the end. To give it a good measure, at about 30% of the drama, we should see her cracking her old shell and starting to transform.
As this drama is going, no growth will happen.
Do you mean growth as ... wedding? Heck that is NOT growth :) "Growth" means inner change, not some external event
Da Rim has to stop lying and learn to communicate honestly
etc
Imo, 2ML is great bc he is exactly like FL, he clings to what he wants and then lies and cheats to get it and what he wants is safety and comfort, easy way. Very immature and a perfect match for FL. Birds of the same feather flock together. I really appreciate him being there. It is amazing that FL supporters do not see 2ML as sort of her male counterpart.
I am bothered by ML, he is a bull in a mating season, only hormones, no brains, and he is overly controlling, smart, rich, handsome guy, who acts as a sugar daddy and a knight in shining armor saving FL like 10 times per episode... since she is such a clutz...
so far, this is such a sexist stereotype drama where a rather dumb, insecure, clumzy loser woman NEEDS a man who will take care of her bc otherwise she cannot function in this world. She would have been literally DEAD..... That sexist message is the theme of too many kdramas (and maybe other asian dramas, I am not sure) and very often globally. It is rotten brainwashing.
The drama keeps FL the same old same old for at least 8 out of 14 episodes, with zero growth. That message is so toxic. It advertises the idea that people - esp women - never grow and change out o their loser selves.
to be useful and interesting, the drama needs to show ML and FL equally contributing in their own ways, being independent but synergistic, and openly and honestly sharing with each other. Proper communication is the key, and it happens only from proper inner state, which requires inner work. Like... Missing Piece Meets the Big O youtube video :)
It is absolutely FASCINATING how you cling to Da Rim's past. Right now, she got a job and a smart guy who cares. And she keeps lying and lying and lying.... So why are you are soooo stuck on her past to defend her total lack of progress on her inner self TODAY.
The only reason I think ppl are so sensitive about protecting DR is bc ppl have the same kind of life and want to protect their own lying and avoiding by blaming it on some distant past
It was easier to count correctly 0% character growth so far :)
How long does it take for this scandal to die? ... then just release Signal 2 ...
and your logic... So Da RIm is ONLY a caring, good person.... ? And is so perfect at the moment, you would not change ANYTHING about her?
Seems like you are totally unaware that there is something called PERSONAL GROWTH
and that is a lifelong process that requires effort, and never stops, no matter how "good and caring" person you are
Being accused of hate is one thing that is interesting here this audience sees everything as either LOVE or HATE so inherently, by design, there is absolutely NO ROOM FOR GROWTH bc AS SOON AS YOU EXPOSE SOMETHING TO BE IMPROVED, IT IS CONSIDERED "HATE"....
In other words, this audience is like a cult, either you stick 100% with the agenda or you are a hateful enemy.
So far this drama is an excellent research project. I learned so much from meeting so many ppl who defend toxicity and enjoy their brain turned off. Some are smart and some are not. But everyone is a master of lying and "yes but" strategies to defend themselves. It is helping me to understand something important.
When we turn the brain off with something delusional and toxic, some kind of escape from OURSELVES, it means we are overwhelmed and also... we lost hope.
That is one of the main takes for me from here. Meeting so many people who lost hope and who truly believe that the life Da Rim lives is acceptable, normal, realistic.... and that a way to deal with it all is to just turn the brain off by something toxic.
I will keep thinking about it.
FYI Masterful stories are fun and super deep and allow space for everyone to see the story at their own level. This drama is not that. My Roomate is a Gumiho is.
Yes Da Rim has IQ, she did good work at her BeBe job. DaRim also has social intelligence, she was able to even help ML with business on JeJu.
Yes sure of course DaRim is not the only problem with this script. What do you think are other issues?
Hey , Da Rim had like 8 episodes to GROW. Are you saying the interviews from early episodes is what is preventing her from growing today? Think again.
Da Rim - and anyone - always has choices. If her university is so bad, then make it good somehow. An amazing project, entering a competition, getting a side degree or certificate from another university are some choices if Da Rim wants jobs that require a good university.
Another choice is going for jobs where her university is valued
These are all choices for Da Rim.
She made a choice to lie to get into a kind of job that requires good education. OK that is how she started. At the start of any drama, characters are flawed, by default.
But how this continues is TOXIC. Da Rim *STAYS STUCK IN HER FAULTS*
Da Rim keeps making bad choices out of the same unhealthy patterns. It is her choice to lie and keep lying even when she has a chance to fess up.
Da Rim stays stagnant, keeps lying and hiding. There is no chink in her armor of lies and sticking to "safety" by lying. She and SU have the same emotional pattern of clinging to safety by lying and hiding.
This is how Da Rim is by the script, kept in stagnation and oblivion for over 75% of the show. She is the same insecure liar Da Rim as in ep 1.
To me, that is WEIRD.. SAD.. TOXIC... WASTEFUL... . Staying the same old same for so long. It is a waste of time. It makes the drama boring and meaningless. TOXIC.
Da Rim starts in a hell pit but then she STAYS there, by her own choices to keep lying non-stop.
this far into the drama, we SHOULD have seen some change in Da Rim. But she did not change at all.
Yeah she had some success at work and that is great but she is fundamentally THE SAME PERSON SHE WAS IN EP 1
and that is ... boring and toxic.
Character growth is not about becoming "a good person" but becoming the best version of yourself.
So even a very mature and kind person has plenty of room for character growth.
So you can just imagine how much room for growth is there for the FL the chronic liar and loser... or for SU clinging... or for ML mating bull without brains.... and so on.
FL and SU are the ones with least maturity and with the most issues to be resolved. FL has to stop lying.
ML and esp FL need a HUGE character growth. He is about 12 and she is about 3 yrs old.
And yeah this audience cannot see it .... does not care about it... and even - does not want it.
And yeah now I get it, "rom com" is a term to designate movies for such audience....
"Rom Com" means "a brainless fantasy story to kill the time". Isnt that what hollywood churns out?
But isnt it sad. I would love to watch a very serious rom com. Something funny but very deep and meaningful and realistic.
I am not sure that will happen here
This drama is 75% over and Da Rim is THE SAME AS IN THE BEGINNING, that is the problem. She can start from anywhere but she gotta move on forward. She has NOT. And you ya all ok with that..... and defending it with your buts ....