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Da Rim *keepS* lying. That is the main issue LOL

I like DK 2FL a lot!!! immediately! As soon as she saw the photo and liked it, I was wow what a smart and intuitive woman who appreciates true love! I believed in SU :) I still do, but am less sure he will be fast enough to change LOL
To m she is not a villain but a savior. A sane lively vibrant person who appreciates, seeks and makes happen true warmth and love. She might be th one to dig the 2ML out of his self-dug hell pit. Yeah she is pushy, immature but she is comical and cute and honest, so I am fine with that. I loved watching her from the start. She annoyed me when she kept insisting although the guy is half dead. Something gotta kick him in the butt to wake up. SU!!!!! WAKE UP!!!!!! YOU ARE CUTE AND OBVIOUSLY CAN GIVE LOVE SINCE YOUR KID IS SO CUTE! WAKE UP!!!!!!

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I gave up western shows long time ago for lack of content.

I fast forwarded through most of The Twelve. There are some dramas you can watch while ... exercising, etc. LOL to me it was a research project to see WHY it was so hyped up and what ppl expected, and what they complained about. I also "met" the main actor what is his name? the martial arts fighter who was the tiger AND producer and made The Twelve as "his" drama, most scenes of his fat as@ slugging along in tiger pajamas.

BAYM is cliche flat bc of FL who cannot act. But she acted enough to bounce off the hilarious ML actor. Watching ML actor was amazing bc he was so ALIVE and had so much fun acting it and overdoing it and making it funny. He was 100% unplugged LOL It was inspirational. And since he is a new actor without experience, he could get only short sentences and scenes, so they filled it up with food.
Just like in the western media they fill it with 18+ and violence.

Excellent analysis can be found on DramaBeans, great recaps if you miss anything

I dont like cdramas bc they are a lot more crude than kdramas, no humor, no warmth. Goes with th territory ;) China is a hell place. C-dramas are mostly about survival, no character growth.

But when Chinese make something it is WOW. Like 2016 movie about the monk who walked to India to get Buddhist texts. Xuang Zhang . WOW! Koreans never made anything that deep that I am aware of. . That movie is WOW!!! it is on youtube.
Stephen Chow made a fun pre-sequel to that, how th monk got ready for the trip, movie Journey to the West.

Thai dramas can be cute, and they are always more rambuctious than kdramas, but also could be quite lewd. One of my favs of all times is Thai movie A First Thing Called Love.

I love Hong Kong stuff. Stephen Chow's famous Shaoling Kung Fu, Kung Fu Husstle, etc are amazing masterpieces and show well why China/Chinese is the way it is

Japanese dramas seem so simplistic!!! with simplistic acting.. I tried a few. The only one I really liked was Only for The Married, the FL actress is just amazing!!!! I also saw some really pornographic creepy melodramas and ran away, and I saw a little bit of dramas that advertise high school bullies and working for jakuza so that was like whaaat... ? Seriously it is a high school students who are COOL bc they are bullies and want to work for jakuzza later. The drama glorifies that!!!! Japanese culture is quite complex.... isnt it...

So Romantics Anonymous was a pleasant surprise, that Japanese ML was so expressive and emotional... and acted american. I researched him, he was trained in theater in Japan and acted in Hollywood movies. DO YOU KNOW HOW THEY MADE HIS HAIR THAT BLACK AND SHINY?
Another Japanese movie I liked is the one about keeping an old onsen hot spa bath operational and not selling it.
A good japanese piece has a knack of telling hte story SLOOOWLY and really focusing on the main issues. And going DEEP. Romantics Anonymous is so zen.

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I remember masterpiece Italian movie "Perfect Strangers" bc it was acted so well and is a complex ... psychological thriller. Nobody redid it better than the original imo. Italians are masters of hypocrisy and lying and cheating and bsing LOL Korean version is totally lame. Koreans dont know how to bs...

The USA has some good stuff but it seems all good stuff ended by 2006.
1942 Calablanca, 1960s Th Apartment... such SIMPLE script and ah so powerful!!!!
then Matrix, White Chicks, Truman Show, Groundhog day, Legally Blonde, Equilibrium, are all from around 2000. The last good one is Idiocracy in 2006. Very heady thoughtful movies. I was so stoked when I found them!
Series Selfie is on facebook, 2014 or 2016, was discontinued ... :(
and then ... nothing...

I dont know whre you live, but I can vouch that the USA does live like it is shown in Idiocracy. Sex sells everything and is the only thing ppl care about. These days, pot too. And always, food and shopping and video games. And truly... the brains are going away.

Consumerism... yeah... very infectious and addictive disease
LOL

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I dont think I am so intrested to see one more japanese drama that copied a kdrama but I might try :) since Mary My husband has a high rating

I would like to see some really good family kdramas.
I havent watched all kdrama masterpieces yet.

What are your favorite dramas or movies? Thanks

BAYM is a way better drama than KTL imo bc of the ML in Bon Appetit - he was on fire! he was so vibrantly enthusiastic. Also, he was a complex character and acted well. Just watching him was worth it. I dont think we will get a performance like that soon bc he ssemed stoked he got a leading role in a major drama, it was his ticket up :) and he took it and flew!
Junho in KTL was ... well... blah bland kinda boring. I do not even remember him. I remember the posh looking rooms. That's it.

The dramas LOOK the same bc the FL is the same actress and she acts *** exactly the same *** in both dramas, same facial expressions and behavior, 100% exactly the same, she has no acting skills...

First night with the Duke is slightly different bc FL is very competent and confident, not a damsel in distress, so she saves the day a few times. There, ML was made so simple, straight out of a cartoon, "only good and moral he-man Superman soldier" for most episodes. he was an advertisement for military. But the FL was very interesting.

Yeah let's see which issues DK can resolve in 6 episodes.. THE KEY ISSUE IS HOW TO HEAL TRAUMA as both ML and FL are troubled teenagers, imo. That's how I watched this drama - young ppl drama about two troubled teenagers discovering hormones and adulthood.

In the preview, JH resorts to his cruel self and then falls for her kiss charms when she comes to apologize. He makes DR jealous by "kissing" HY, so maybe scared DR gets her share of pain and wakes up and thn learns they are not together and gets into action fast enough to claim him. He grabs her without too many questions asked, seems like. Tsk his hormones... He is stuck now with a child in adult body.

I really do not see how she will grow up that fast, only 6 episodes. Perhaps.. time skip? Doubt it. Perhaps... she goes to a different job and becomes successful there so it gives her confidence quickly? perhaps she takes a course in ... taikwando and becomes nimble on her feet? And learns to swim LOL
Perhaps their moms step in to teach them a few things about life? The common denominator for ML and FL is their unhealthy devotion to their moms, since their moms were doozies to them. ML's mom already figured it out with the help of FL's mom so perhaps...

I am interested in ML's acting bc I knew him way back from My Mister and My Roommate is a Gumiho. Seems like he will become an international star if DK is #1 on Netflix. His face can look so scary, even his smile, and also kind. He can do all kinds of roles.
I am not impressed with FL actress in DK. At all. The script crushed her but also she is too flat.

I want to see the 2ML from The Nice Guy again (but in a quality drama. TNG imo was ... trash). That actor has an amazing range. He was a great cruel gangster in love, and imo can do anything from thrillers to rom com to melodrama he so expressive and can act mean or lovey dovey easily.
To think of it, another one like that is the good guy stunt son from Once Again, who was in My Troubled Star as a villain, another face that can flip between vile and fun, but ... he acts the same everywhere.... in other words, he does not really act LOL So I am not counting him here. I do not need to watch him again :)

Skilled FLs are rare.... So that is why I am even more and objectively totally impressed with acting of FL in Nice to Not Meet You. She is the main villain from The GLory. Rare to see a female actor with such amazing skillZ. She is a totally diferent character just with her body language. In NNTMY, she *is* the nerdy reporter. In Glory, she *is* the glo slut/killer. Honestly I would have no idea who she is in real life. She is such a cameleon.
The music and camera work is amazing too. Nice to Not Meet You is a very high quality romcom+.
Bad actors always act the same so it is very easy to see that it is their behavior in real life, they are just themselves and saying a few words of their character.
Moon River has amazing scenes from last week when ML and FL switched bodies and had to impersonate each other, Omg they are so talented in mimicking every expression! Esp FL - she copied movements of ML so that his acting got exposed... minute things like stiff neck forward and bobbing it, etc. ML was hilarious mimicking typical female acting and overdoing it... Otherwise the drama is not a top drama imo

What is pov?

OMG we found each other! I watched Bon Apettit... and then recently watched King the Land when I was doing research in Junho since his idol fans were praising his role there.

So... very fast I realized that King the Land looks awfully familiar!!!! Then I realized it is the same FL, acting EXACTLY the same, just in different costume, and the ML is EXACTLY the same type of rich cruel selfish guy,... and it is the same kind of plot, but in a hotel, not Joseon. Even the cooking...

so basically, they copied King The Land drama and just put it into a different environment, increased the volume on "tyrant", added more cooking and called it Bon Apettit Your Majesty.
Brilliant way to save money LOL Now I am starting to see how the kdrama industry churns out zillion "new" dramas, a "unique new drama" every 6-8 weeks

Yes in DK, DR has to make an honest move or else the whole drama will fall through

But as far as I can tell, she gets exposed, so now he knows she is not married, so as soon as she confirms - only bc she is exposed, so she has to - he just bags her right there on the spot and that's it. No character growth. We will see :)

I am also curious how long this will last. Right now DR is a nice new toy to JH but for how long... ? They dont have a deep connection at all. I guess as long as he is pursuing her and doing all the work, she will tag along dutifully. What a fantasy LOL Total kollywood trash

So think WHY you are watching this drama. The "different" concept in this drama is a lot o explcit sexual activity a lot more than a typical kdrama, and the ML is a raging bull in a mating season.
Then you like work scenes
and you dont mind lying ppl

etc etc etc There is something to learn if your low expectations were met

So right now I am watching Dynamite Kiss as a research project. I thought the first few episodes set up the stage for a fluffy "young people on hormones" like college- or young-adult level plot, but then it got totally woozey draggy with lies and saving the damsel in distress dumb FL and by ep 8, I and many other viewers were ready to drop it. I chalk it up as time I invested in learning how dramas can be ruined.
I can fast forward through all scenes that are boring i.e. scenes with FL. What interests me is only scenes with ML across the screen bc he acts well and it is interesting to me how ML actor grew in his roles.

As I was counting dramas I did as "research projects in bad dramas", I had to lookup a name o a top-10 drama that was on Netflix.

**** So I just found out Dynamite Kiss is currently #1 globally in the top 10 non-Eglish shows on Netflix https://www.netflix.com/tudum/top10/tv-non-english *****

And I can tell why :) JH character is a raging bull in the mating season, his brain is not functioning from excess heat, and THAT kind of character is EXTINCT in the West esp the USA :) Testesterone is low in the USA bc of the plastic pollution that turns male Y-chromosome into X-cromosome and because of mass produced food and fast food that have little/no nutrition.
Plus JH has morals and is a loyal nice guy in love. THAT kind of character is EXTINCT in the USA :) On top of it, he is handsome and rich and smart. Those exist still LOL The West does not mind an airhead FL bc they see that all the time... And this kdrama has a LOT more sexual scenes that a typical kdrama, so american audience will be happy to get their dose of it. They are addicted to it :) And kdramas are relatively respectful about the subject so - although the kdrama audience might find this drama a little too racy, the american audience will like it.

Straight women and gay men must love watching this drama. Americans in general are used to seeing s#x in entertainment in great quantities so to them this drama is "clean PG rated but still fun" and they will watch that. And pay for it. They do not care much for the content and honestly cannot comprehend anything beyond the basic simple obvious stuff like poop jokes and s#x... But even that has to be explained, you got to see two people in bed in the act to KNOW thre was that involved... Omg so simplistic.... They are conditioned to watch shicking meaningless stuff with lots of s#x and violence....

So Koreans can rake in tons of money by catering to that and compromise the quality.

On MDL and many other sites, ppl complain about the plot and are ready to drop bc of dragging the lies and thus dragging the plot, and flakey FL and clingy 2ML. But who cares, if $$$$$$ start rolling in from american side... LOL

Sad but ... american tastes are gonna kill kdramas, because of $$$$$

For how long? As the usa keeps going down economically... I guess it will always have $15/mo to pay or Netflix... ? if they dont spend all their money on "medical marijuana" LOL and other toys... Tinder is free? The USA is totally 99% infested with drugs and porn. Sometimes I feel like the last Mohican, the only person that never did drugs booze etc is not on Tinder, etc. There might be a few others LOL but definitely an endangered species... The USA lives like Idiocracy, 2006 movie... just like that movie. .. exactly like that movie.
I dont watch western entertainment bc it is meaningless. If kdramas go that route and become kollywood, I can drop them too :) I think I am learning enough now and can go on to learn something else :)

FYI Divine Will is a strange thing and sometimes you have to watch a piece of trash if directed to, bc you will learn from it.
For example:
I watched WYMM to the end and wondered why. I was studying it carefully, it was annoying trash. But I learned from it:
(0) First I realized that I was watching ML bc the actor was cute and I have never seen him before. That wore off quickly though bc he cannot act well.
(1) I learned how dramas are copied. FL was also FL in My Father is Strange, where she utterly annoyed me, bc she cannot act and her character is a flakey slimey liar. The rest of that drama is great so I just ignored her. But, SHE WAS THE EXACT SAME IN WYMM. *****The script writer just took her from MFIS and plopped her into WYMM with a different name. **** THE SAME EXACT SAME ACTING AND CHARACTER. Even the same clothing. Wow a way to save on script and acting costs... *****
(2) At the very end, I got an amazing learning from WYMM because I was so annoyed and something in me protested so deeply that I reached a Higher State of Being and something inside me spoke something very wise that was a terrific lesson for me personally. That lesson is priceless. I passed a Test and demonstrated I transformed.

(3) I learned why the audience forgave the trepid lying FL - bc she was kind. At the end, she was telling her villain ex that she does not wish him anything bad and that it makes her feel sad when he suffers so if he could please let go and move on.

I watched Typhoon Family although it was mediocre at best..., but I learned about IMF crisis and S Korea... and at the very very end, last scene of ep 16, I learned about Ah Ji Hwan song "People are more beautiful than flowers." Look up the lyrics. The "kdrama magic" is captured in that song. Also, I learned about idols, singers, idol fans, etc. when Junho's fans went after me. I had no idea who Junho is, I "met" him for the first time ever, and his idol fans promoted him heavily and protected him with sheer aggression and violence. I also realized he cannot sing but he is an idol. His group is also not the best dancers either. But they are all cute young guys. That is what matters to be an idol...

I watched The Twelve, it was a total flop and all comments were negative. We all waited for it to change. I fast forwarded through most of it and wrote it off as my study of drama failure. At the end of the last episode, which was as bad as the rest, the audience wrote comments which were hilarious beyond hilarious. I was literally falling off my chair laughing. Those comments on MDL entertained me for days. Check them out.

I wathed daily revenge drama and learned about a whole different world of the audience that roots for revenges.

I watched Bon Apettit Your Majesty and learned about that audience, It felt I was in some huge lively restaurant. So busy, everyone talking, excited, and ... no content LOL it was one of the most shallow discussions ever... They also talked about food... Food was a character in that drama and took a lot of screen time and made the drama quite boring. Somewhat educational, I felt like I was in a cooking class.

I watched Beyond the Bar law drama and learned about that audience. So mental, so nitpicking on "administrative details" like age difference between ML and FL, totally missing on their flirting, and ah so boring and blind. Wow.

I watched Romantics Anonymous j-k drama when I was doing research on top 10 non-English shows on Netflix. That was educational!!!! The Japanese were coached by Koreans and produced a kdrama-like piece, so unlike other Japanese dramas, but with totally Japanese touches which made it unique and actually... in some ways better than a kdrama. And in some ways a lot worse. I could verbalize the advantages of kdramas a lot better...

I watched cdrama Bond and can verbalize differences between c and k dramas a lot better... Bond is one of the few cdramas ever I liked - and I was not thrilled about it - and now i know why...

So right now I am watching Dynamite Kiss as a research project. I thought the first few episodes set up the stage for a fluffy "young people on hormones" like college- or young-adult level plot, but then it got totally woozey draggy with lies and saving the damsel in distress dumb FL and by ep 8, I and many other viewers were ready to drop it. I chalk it up as time I invested in learning how dramas can be ruined.
So right now I am watching Dynamite Kiss as a research project. I can fast forward through all scenes that are boring. What interests me is only scenes with ML across the screen bc he acts well and it is interesting to me how ML actor grew in his roles.

I just found out Dynamite Kiss is currently #1 globally in the top 10 non-Eglish shows on Netflix https://www.netflix.com/tudum/top10/tv-non-english

And I can tell why :) JH character is a raging bull in the mating season, his brain is not functioning from excess heat, and THAT kind of character is EXTINCT in the West esp the USA :) Plus he has morals and is a loyal nice guy in love. THAT kind of character is EXTINCT in the USA :) On top of it, he is handsome and rich and smart. Those exist still LOL The West does not mind an airhead FL bc they see that all the time...
Straight women and gay man must love watching this drama. Americans in general are used to seeing s#x in entertainment in great quantities so to them this drama is "clean PG rated but still fun" and they will watch that. And pay for it.

So Koreans can rake in tons of money and compromise the quality.

On MDL and many other sites, ppl complain about the plot and are ready to drop bc of dragging the lies and thus dragging the plot, and flakey FL and clingy 2ML. But who cares, if $$$$$$ start rolling in from american side... LOL Sad but ... american tastes are gonna kill kdramas.

Imo SML is not crazy for FL. He wants her to be his doggie, not a lover.

Good for you for surgincal action and dropping WYMM bc it was a piece of trash
This drama is better bc ML actor acts and FL somewhat acts. WYMM was no/terrible acting for both.

Yes your expectations for Dynamit Kiss are so low :)
If you want a high quality rom-com, it is Nice to Not Meet You and also Dont Call Me Ma'am has it
This year also had other wonderful rom coms like Haunted Palace. Bon Apettit Your Majesty, and even First Night With The Duke .... I liked My Dearest Nemesis too in later episodes.

Yeah it is good that team of moms is doing good at work etc

DR said that she chose to avoid life and not work - that was her voice over - so let's not rationalize it..

If you had enough objectivity to drop WYMM - bravo for that! - then you have enough to stop rationalizing this drama. It really pushed your buttons, did it, to make you rationalize this hard :)

yeah i wrote that in the post under spoiler - running away from the scene etc

Sorry but I still think that your logic is skewed towards protecting the weakness. Perhaps my approach is too surgical for you LOL but I do believe that moving forward requires brutal honesty. Like a tooth that hurts - you must address it, not sweettalk explain it away
Remember drama Glory? That child was abused and left alone and bullied, and still she finished teacher school and got a job and did her revenge.

Da Rim has NO excuses for her failures in life :) That is my point. She CHOSE to stay sheltered and live off her mother. She said that in a voice over at the start!!!!
Her mother enabled her ... her mother spoiled her :) and let her stay home for free, doing nothing. THat is not a good mother...

I suspect that either you or someone close to you has all kinds of excuses like your exuses for DR and you are so invested in protecting them.

I understand that DR had bad circumstances - that SHE created and maintained by her addiction to staying comfortable and sheltered - and she tried to solve it by easy way cheating. THat is where we start.
But then.... DR has to start growing up, asap.
A married woman going to the apartment of a man with a fiance... ? hello, double affair.... Does DR has a brain? But DR insists on playing oblivious - BECAUSE IT IS EASY.

Do you see DR's pattern? She is always choosing the easy comfortable path. She is weak.

SU is similar, he also wants to avoid hardships and stays alone, distant, and SU and DR match in their weakness. Their "friendship" is based on never challenging anything and just staying at the safe distance. That is their dark side :) and their way they sold their soul to the devil. SU wants to keep DR as a dog, a fun and safe never-questioning companion for ONLY happy times

Will SU wake up? He has a son and has reasons and push to wake up asap. HY is so alive and vibrant and might shatter his armor bc she seems a suitable mom for Jun. Jun has the potential to shatter the armor of his dad. BECAUSE JUN IS HONEST.

I dont think the drama will totally change FL. JH is portrayed as a bull in mating season without any ability to use his brain, so he will probably take DR no matter how weak or slimey liar she is and act as her father who also fu@ks her.

Most Kdramas insist on weak women and this drama is an overdose.
This drama is a copy of Would you Marry Me, yet another trepid slimey weak liar FL who stays quite slimey and weak till the end.

This is the signature trait in most kdramas, to keep the women weak. THE PLOT IS CREATED BY A DUMB IRRATIONAL WOMAN AND A SMART MAN WHO SAVES HER.
This plot sells well bc it is the fantasy of all immature women, that they can do whatver they want and some handsome nice dude will keep saving them and adoring them as a princess.
This plot is a key in societal brainwashing that keeps women down, it normalizes women as weak. Women are 50% of population and hold very little resources and power, so male population that is only 50% of population holds almost 100% of all resources and power. Do you see why so many ppl are invested in promoting these dramas that help to keep the women down? They are baiting the audience on their weakness - the fantasy that a loser woman finds Mr Right Sugar Daddy - and entice women to willingly keep powerless and dreaming how they will be saved,

Keeping FL as a damsel in distress snowflake liar is intentional, as the sexism promotes these weak women who cannot function without a man running their life... Basically kdramas promote women as helpless brainless powerless small children, dependent on some strong men who act as essentially their father who also fu@ks them. That is the essence of it - mass brainwashing into obedience and male dominance. The man is smart, capable, leads, makes rational decisions, saves the weak from falling on their face, etc. The man is the king. The woman is a child. It is quite disgusting. Western media promotes the same, it just looks differernt, they promote slutty Barbie dolls. West also has an agenda to destroy the family (bc that promotes consumerism etc) so portraying men is a complex issue, they are seldom family figures
So far kdramas have less problems than western media and have some good messages that well outweight the problems, e.g. I like their family emphasis and good life habits, so that's why I watch them, but sometimes the underlying manipulation becomes too much, like in this drama, they totally went overboard

This is probably a lot more than you wanted to hear.... your insistence on protecting weakness made me speak up in more detail than I intended. Also, I command you for your bravery to talk about it. Namaste.

wow so well said. 100% agree. Such astute analysis

HR herself said it was lust and greed, not love for Chairman

I think JW is aware that she hurt SH by marrying him just to use him. She apologized to him and to his mother. That was one nice thing JW did.
But she does not love SH and never loved him. She is just sorry for what she did to him.
Maybe she will grow to love him one day, but so far, JW is incapable of love, so it is going to take a while.
Also, SH is right now a puppy love, obsessed with her and his love is not very mature, so I wonder how long it will last. Like that scene where he finds her injured and HN helping her, he asks first i she is cheating with HN instead of asking how she is doing.

I think SH is gonna get tangled with RealYC and to be honest, I think they might be a good match if she manages to become more stable. She has lived in a horror story all her life and responded well to care and love from HR. So she might recover with proper care, if she can find it.. HR hates her now LOL Maybe living with SH will help her... So..... maybe :)

JW does not love SH and never loved him, so I hope they part for good - unless she learns to love him. But I doubt she is capable of love. IF he loves her for real, he might be able to melt her .... But I have reservations about it it bc his love is too immature and might not last. I think SH is just obsessed with her, it is not real love. Like, his jealousy is more important than if she is injured or not.

he is the best gaslighter out there... he is such a well camouflaged poisnous snake manipulator... always knows what to say to lull people into complacency... a masterful liar

I love how you said it is is a psychological chess match and the board keeps being overturned. We audience are like learners in a psychiatry school. All characters in this drama are mentally off .
The only one who had some sanity and lived sticking to honesty principles, with least delusions and lies and pretense, is KB, who is dead.
Everyone else sold their soul out of greed, to get something. Even Ha Neul, at the very start, failed to say hey I like you, and let JW keep rampaging and even helped her. Out of his own cowardice, he is standing by her, protecting her as she commits crimes.

Gosh this drama is so good about showing conseqences of every choice we make

JW pregnant would be a nightmare... for her too...

Hm isnt she a victim of her mother... ? and responded so nicely to love and care of HR as a a 'good mom'? So .. isnt there SOME possibility of her redemption arc... ?
And yeah she is nasty, really nasty.... but you dont want her to grow up?

I think Chairman has more connections and more money and will squish them. Keeping the Chairman under control will be a formidable task. He will keep trying to kill Su A

So far, Su A th graceful liar made a deal with Chairman to keep her alive bc at least he will look good to HR and will not grow apart from him. But what will Su A say now to convince the Chairman to not destroy her... ?

What kind of "love" is Ha Neul feeling to keep supporting JW in her crimes? He stands by her like the Cricket from Pinocchio and tells her - be honest - and she says NO I WILL NOT! and he is still there, kissing up to her and "protecting her" ... Just like Shinubi said, like a dog sniffing the butt waiting for a chance to jump on and mate.

First of all, JW is not capable of love. She is so immature that her only focus is to harm her bio mom. She is incapable of true caring, giving, self honesty, self relection, self accountability, willingness to talk honestly, to see another person, to be compassionate, etc which are all required for love.

HN has that component of love where he truly care to help JW, but he lacks that component of love which is critical, to hold JW accountable. He spoils her...

Even if HN and JW got together, what kind of "love" would it be, based on being partners in crime? Does it have any chance to succeed?

I think HN is turning himself into her psychiatric nurse, brother or father, not a potential love interest. Maybe like in It is Ok to Not Be Ok, he will finally win his mental patient, but ...

SH also does not really love JW. First, he is in denial of who she is... JW is weak and insecure and willing to hurt him to get her way. JW does not love him and never loved him. She married him out of business interest and lied to him the entire time... She was just enamored by the idea that a rich guy adores her. SH has to let go of his obsession with her...
Second, SH does not really love JW. He never worked hard to help her. His main interest is protecting his obsession and desire to own her... As someone noted, when she was injured, he did not ask her how she was, he asked what she is doing with HN... his jealousy was more important than her well being. That is not love..

JW invited death of her father, by playing games to torture HR and exposing to everyone that she is Su A ....... which did succeed! and led to HR guilt hysteria and trying to commit suicide in front of KB and KB's fall while trying to save her.
But, JW's games led to Chairman trying to kill KB and Su A, and Chairman trying to control HR.... and driving HR more insane... which led to that hysteria suicide scene and KB's death

***** JW wanted to torture her bio mom and she succeeded!!!! But JW was not willing to pay the price - the insanity of her mother led to her father's death and also will lead to Su A's death.... The Chairmain will try to kill her.

Now JW wants to do more destruction - so what else will JW ruin in the process... ????

***** JW is like a sorcerer's apprentice, she meddles with things she has no clue about and causes major messes. Who is going to stop her from causing more and more problems??? She is too insane , LACKS ANY SELF ACCOUNTABILITY, and keeps on going into more rampage now.

*** The most disturbing thing in this drama is that JW 100% lacks self reflection and ability and willingness to collect information. She is *** clueless*** but always ah so sure she knows it all and is ready to play god and punish ... her bio mother. It is always this hate and desire to destoy her bio mother. Imo JW is mentally insane.
and it is disturbing that JW actress is so flat and incapable of acting, unable to make this character feel real. It drags the whole drama down as JW just stands there like a stick.

And yeah what if JW is pregnant... ? She was trying hard. I do not see her doing morning nausea or constant pregnancy nausea, so I hope she is not pregnant... as she is now going back to K house as daughter Su A.... and will be running into SH and realYC as his wife LOL

SH might turn to be an evil empire heir since his dad told him he will lose the emire if he leaves for JW and SH so far did not leave the empire... SH might live with RealYC and ... then ... she might become a little more stable bc of him and he might become a lot more evil bc of her... Their interaction in the shower gives a taste of what their relationship will be like.. !!!!