Got around to E8 and I’ll give this 1 more episode. The FL’s passiveness and just how dense she is getting…
100% agree. Except I think she "likes him" in a way like we like an interesting toy that performs for us, He it like a father figure for her, always saving her - and she likes that. I think she also likes to kiss him but as long as there are no obligations
Ah this level of frustration,torment & longing on the male lead's part reminds me of oldschool kdramas ðŸ«
You are referring to the times before the plastic pollution killed Y chromosome and testerone levels? The times before the super low birth rates? Are there men these days who can feel like JH? To be honest, they are super hard to find in developed countries.
I'm honestly surprised that most people are only judging Da-rim for her mistakes, and entirely forget that JI-HYEOK…
You missed it, I complained that he acts as a mommy boy and drops his dreams to please his mother. Typical immaturity ... is it Freudian? complex - trying to "protect" your parent
Many ppl and myself complained he relies on hormones, and turned off his brain. he is also overly controlling and a snowflake in personal life, he doesnt know how to TALK
JH is not perfect by any means, he has many flaws. But emotionally, he is a lot stronger and is a lot more mature than Da RIm, who is really 3 yr old slimey liar.
lmao is a romcom dude chilax lol doormat and FL using him....how many romcoms in kdrama have you watched? you…
But that is what we are talking about - isnt it time to make better rom coms? And, they do not have to be based on doozey FL doormat and ML being like her father Look at Nice to Not Meet You. It is a great rom com about two competent and smart yet flawed adults who just happen to be dense about love
FL used ML in Jeju, $$$ for acting... kissing on the boat.... running out of bed without even shouting Bye gotta help my mom right now in emergncy room! , ... loan shark payoff and still not telling him she needs the job and is not married.... Always hitting on him as a married woman... going to his apartment, flirting at the park, etc etc etc She is playing with him Then all the times he helped her..
He is like her father or babysitter..
FL used 2ML a lot... did not tell him about Jeju, did not tell him she likes ML, etc
To make FL character look cool. She is loveable and desirable. Honestly most women audience sees themselves in…
@allaboute Unfortunately, you are correct!!!! Most kdramas are fantasy of little girls - that no matter what they do and how immature and lousy and irresponsible they are, a FATHER-LIKE man will appear who will give them love, admiration, endless support and kissing, and will treat them like a princess - forever, no matter how weak and faulty they are.
It’s enough of his pain! Please stop! He needs to know the truth!
and ideally FL will tell the truth, on her own, without being caught red handed. Since she (was( caught red handed... she has to share a lot more truths.
I really hate it when a weak FL gets a special treatment by some guy who is there really as her FATHER rather than a lover
The ML is a ridiculously wealthy heir who’s had every material advantage imaginable—including the looks. Meanwhile,…
I and many others do not have sympathy for him and keep saying he is driven by hormones and forgot he has a BRAIN that he COULD use, and knows how to use, for example in business situations he is a master of nailing ppl down to fess up the truth etc. So... I guess his problem is that he never had the teenage hots so he does not even know what it is and how to handle it? It is like he is 12 yrs old now and not learning fast
Do you recommend watching this?I’ve been following the ratings — it started strong, but now it’s dropping…
you have to watch to decide on your own. I think you might get some ideas from the comments, but the ultimate judge is you. Sometimes I watched quite trashy dramas bc I had to learn something from them. Sometimes what I think is hidden gem is boring to you and vice versa. So - skim the comments, see 1 episode at least, and you will know
I bet you that he’ll apologize for it if he does get mad, and they’ll make it look like he’s the one who’s…
yeah, I 100% agree. This drama is a copy of very old sexist stereotyping dramas. She is portrayed as 1950s feme fatale, damsel in distress and he is portrayed as a fantasy for loser chicks - WHERE is that man who gets trampled on all the time, does not get even a kiss, and doggedly keeps kissing as@ and saving this never-ending damsel in distress? That is a description of a FATHER, not a lover. If you find a lover like that, I will give you $1. So yes I vote for the solution you just proposed. Like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zz0PPBe9eg
Nah2ML does not love FL.. Even his little son doesnt see it :) But he sees the Pretty Lady and the 2ML sees her…
I understand what you are saying, so I will nitpick.
There is absolutely nothing hot about 2ML feelings to FL. He is blah bland meh ... cook... babysitter... but nowhere close to a man wanting to share his inner self and a few body parts...
Roughly speaking, "love" means wanting to come close to your loved one, and comes in all flavors depending on the maturity of it - toxic possession, obsession, crush, hormones, heart connection, etc. Romantic Love always involves some kind of sexual attraction. If you dont feel it, you got a friend, not a love.
Real Love is the "deepest shade of color of love" and we cannot even begin to analyze that here - it is between family, friends, or lovers, between humans and Divine, etc etc etc. It is a BIG TOPIC
Most people, when they say "love" mean some deep genuine feelings. And when thy refer to anything toxic, they say - crush, obsession, fling, desire, etc.
When we say "love" in the context of rom com, we mean romantic love, so I will use that term now.
I said 2ML situation is not romantic love in any of its many forms. He wants to stay distant. WHEN WAS HE SEEKING HER COMPANY ALL THE TIME? A person in love wants to talk, to do things, to hug, to share, as much as possible, they eagerly seek those situations. In a toxic or clear way LOL They stalk, take you to dinner, keep you locked up in the basement, marry you, etc. But they have feelings and they act on them.
2ML wants to keep emotional distance, never sharing, never coming too close for comfort, and never challenging each other. By definition, sex is impossible in that situation LOL So he is already rejecting "love" in many of its forms... and certainly romantic love...
I am saying he is THINKING that love would be nice, and he is not feeling it. She is just comfortable, like an old pair of jeans, so he wants to keep her and so his approaching her is like a business proposal. Like keeping your personal assistant/companion.
There is absolutely nothing hot about 2ML feelings to FL. He is blah bland meh ... cook... babysitter... but nowhere close to a man wanting to share his inner self and a few body parts...
So yes it is more than friendship... but not more than a business deal proposal... for a comfortable DISTANT relationship... where they never come close. Since he was alone for a while, he might get excited about her bc he is hungry, but I do not see even that!!!!! I really do not see his hormones reacting to her at all. he is just happy to be around her WHEN THINGS ARE HAPPY AND GOOD, like walking Jun, etc. But he is not there when she needs help.
That dude feels like a jealous neighbor, not like a potential lover...
"FL can drown in a rain puddle or a cup of water" LOL Damsel in distress .... getting into accidents every few minutes and being saved by ML... lying to everyone... I feel like I am watching 1950's idea of what a woman is...
"FL should develop a brain" "ML should use his brain, not only his hormones" "I am skipping through episodes.. lost interest.. too many tropes... pathetic FL... repetitive plot... etc etc " so many comments like that
OK, so... we got 6 episodes to make FL grow up real fast... and transform from a slimey liar 3-yr old to an adult with integrity... Good luck!... and ML to realize where he needs to grow... he cannot be a mama boy, and he has to rely on his brain, not only hormones
I am interested in ML actor getting a better project after this, because I saw him progress from a small but critical role and amazing acting in legendary drama, a true masterpiece, classic, My Mister, to being a rather simple ML in masterful drama My Roommate is a Gumiho, and now he is a ML of complex character and acting is well, so I want him to keep going to bigger and better roles bc he definitely is talented, he is showing emotions so well.
So I want drama script to improve so that the drama can take off more
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But women often take someone else's man...
she treats him like he is her father, taking care of her unconditionally, without her having to reciprocate
Except I think she "likes him" in a way like we like an interesting toy that performs for us, He it like a father figure for her, always saving her - and she likes that.
I think she also likes to kiss him but as long as there are no obligations
The times before the super low birth rates?
Are there men these days who can feel like JH? To be honest, they are super hard to find in developed countries.
Many ppl and myself complained he relies on hormones, and turned off his brain.
he is also overly controlling and a snowflake in personal life, he doesnt know how to TALK
JH is not perfect by any means, he has many flaws. But emotionally, he is a lot stronger and is a lot more mature than Da RIm, who is really 3 yr old slimey liar.
Look at Nice to Not Meet You. It is a great rom com about two competent and smart yet flawed adults who just happen to be dense about love
Then all the times he helped her..
He is like her father or babysitter..
FL used 2ML a lot... did not tell him about Jeju, did not tell him she likes ML, etc
This fantasy of the MISSING PIECE looking for someone to complete it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zz0PPBe9eg
Since she (was( caught red handed... she has to share a lot more truths.
I really hate it when a weak FL gets a special treatment by some guy who is there really as her FATHER rather than a lover
Sometimes I watched quite trashy dramas bc I had to learn something from them.
Sometimes what I think is hidden gem is boring to you and vice versa.
So - skim the comments, see 1 episode at least, and you will know
She is portrayed as 1950s feme fatale, damsel in distress
and he is portrayed as a fantasy for loser chicks - WHERE is that man who gets trampled on all the time, does not get even a kiss, and doggedly keeps kissing as@ and saving this never-ending damsel in distress? That is a description of a FATHER, not a lover. If you find a lover like that, I will give you $1.
So yes I vote for the solution you just proposed.
Like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zz0PPBe9eg
There is absolutely nothing hot about 2ML feelings to FL. He is blah bland meh ... cook... babysitter... but nowhere close to a man wanting to share his inner self and a few body parts...
Roughly speaking, "love" means wanting to come close to your loved one, and comes in all flavors depending on the maturity of it - toxic possession, obsession, crush, hormones, heart connection, etc.
Romantic Love always involves some kind of sexual attraction. If you dont feel it, you got a friend, not a love.
Real Love is the "deepest shade of color of love" and we cannot even begin to analyze that here - it is between family, friends, or lovers, between humans and Divine, etc etc etc. It is a BIG TOPIC
Most people, when they say "love" mean some deep genuine feelings. And when thy refer to anything toxic, they say - crush, obsession, fling, desire, etc.
When we say "love" in the context of rom com, we mean romantic love, so I will use that term now.
I said 2ML situation is not romantic love in any of its many forms. He wants to stay distant. WHEN WAS HE SEEKING HER COMPANY ALL THE TIME? A person in love wants to talk, to do things, to hug, to share, as much as possible, they eagerly seek those situations. In a toxic or clear way LOL
They stalk, take you to dinner, keep you locked up in the basement, marry you, etc. But they have feelings and they act on them.
2ML wants to keep emotional distance, never sharing, never coming too close for comfort, and never challenging each other. By definition, sex is impossible in that situation LOL So he is already rejecting "love" in many of its forms... and certainly romantic love...
I am saying he is THINKING that love would be nice, and he is not feeling it. She is just comfortable, like an old pair of jeans, so he wants to keep her and so his approaching her is like a business proposal. Like keeping your personal assistant/companion.
There is absolutely nothing hot about 2ML feelings to FL. He is blah bland meh ... cook... babysitter... but nowhere close to a man wanting to share his inner self and a few body parts...
So yes it is more than friendship... but not more than a business deal proposal... for a comfortable DISTANT relationship... where they never come close. Since he was alone for a while, he might get excited about her bc he is hungry, but I do not see even that!!!!! I really do not see his hormones reacting to her at all.
he is just happy to be around her WHEN THINGS ARE HAPPY AND GOOD, like walking Jun, etc. But he is not there when she needs help.
That dude feels like a jealous neighbor, not like a potential lover...
I feel like I am watching 1950's idea of what a woman is...
"FL should develop a brain"
"ML should use his brain, not only his hormones"
"I am skipping through episodes.. lost interest.. too many tropes... pathetic FL... repetitive plot... etc etc " so many comments like that
OK, so... we got 6 episodes to make FL grow up real fast... and transform from a slimey liar 3-yr old to an adult with integrity... Good luck!...
and ML to realize where he needs to grow... he cannot be a mama boy, and he has to rely on his brain, not only hormones
I am interested in ML actor getting a better project after this, because I saw him progress from a small but critical role and amazing acting in legendary drama, a true masterpiece, classic, My Mister, to being a rather simple ML in masterful drama My Roommate is a Gumiho, and now he is a ML of complex character and acting is well, so I want him to keep going to bigger and better roles bc he definitely is talented, he is showing emotions so well.
So I want drama script to improve so that the drama can take off more