I love this show. So fun and hilarious but Iโm finding the second FLโs desperation hard to watch ๐ญ
Yeah! I still do not understand what happened there?? He was in NYC in a hospital bed all broken and she dumped him and left for Korea. But did cheat on her... ?? Or she cheated on him...?? I forgot what they said when they talked about it before. What really happened?
The best song was the one they never released. That train song.
I also like the other "hard core song" Updraft by Han and Stray kids. The Rainbow song is catchy tune and has the right vibe but if I listen to it, the weak voice and missing notes irritates me so I cannot listen too long. I am a musical person with background in traditional African music so ... any mistakes sound like nails on chalkboard...
As for train song - sure, if you liked it. I dont LOL But I posted a youtube video with it for everyone. Search for my posts with keyword train song
Om my, this drama is sooo good, hitting all the points ...
I think Shopping Host is still too nice and a pushover but . waking up. I think BLunt Sister is still too immature proud agrressive but ... waking up. Omg for a good reason, her new man is sooooo good looking in shape and has amazing smile!!!! The young stupid one coming back is just a fantasy drama plot to appease older women LOL A dude like tht is NOT coming back in real life :) I think Perv's Wife is still to stiff and controlling but ... waking up.
I was impressed with "mother moments" in ep 7. Na Jeong exposed teh SEXISM of her mother, favoring a male child, who turned totally hopelessly selfish brat And Perv's Wife exposed her narcissistic mother. My own mother is BOTH of those mothers rolled into one, so as I watch this, I am forced to reflect and acknowledge how hard it is to be near someone like that. My mother is NOT someone I could talk to ever. She is a war refugee and she is "frozen" at age 6 when she experienced war attrocities and bombings. Having someone like that as a mother is difficult, to say at least. My mother is not nice, is not smart, and is not caring at all, and is completely void of self reflection and self responsibility. She is the 6-yr old nasty child I have to take care of LOL And so karmically it is what it is, so I just have to deal with it, first accepting it. I will help her live her last days as best as possible. But at one point... where is the line. I cannot sacrifice my life for her.
I am glad that NJ resolved it and that teaching that mothers are first people and have their own lives is so true.
I am waiting for someone to expose the nasty Big Boss, the female one, the one that acted the mother in Study Group. She is the key bully of NJ at work.
Na Jeong's father is law seems like an amazing character, so fun and I hope his son is too. In ep 7 he is so much more attentive to his family. it totally went over my head about he and the other lady... I finally got it when someone explained it here... So I am not sure WHY he didnt want his wife to work at Sweet Shopping?
Ep 4: i hate the office culture of having to go along, drink along, etc. The pettiness and jealousy of someone…
behind that is the Big Boss, that woman that acted mother in Study Group. She ordered the short hair chick to mentor FL and to do whatever she wanted, althugh short hair chick said she hates FL and doesnt want to see her or work with her
Hey guys WJ seems like a sick puppy and he is but .. where was he for 30 years??? He was totally colluding with his mother. He must have been hiding in that hospice while lying about "studying abroad" for like ... 10 years??
WJ never looked for his sister - yeah his mother said she was dead - but WJ was well aware his mother was a liar and schemer - why did he believe her... ?
and WJ was keeping quiet and helping his mother to take the company away from SJ.
WJ lied to EH about studying abroad, etc
WJ is *not* a clean nice character. He is a passive VILLAIN.
Imo only Ms. Ko is qualified to give him or buy him a liver
I need help to understand something. When Dir Ko was talking with EH and remembering her life, she said that "I was catching a minow but caught a whale" - WHY DID SHE SAY THAT? Did she take WJ out of orphanage to surgery JUST to snag the doctor? Or she wanted to use the opportunity to help the kid AND snag the doctor? Never did she have an intent to take EH with her...
Actually its common in asia to not meet friends family
wow no wonder I was reborn somewhere else :) I love a lot of Asian culture but I think living there would be like .... a very cold jail. Not fun. In my world, friends visit at home a lot and can eat or stay over any time
If u watch strong geum soon n unknown woman u ll go crazy to the extent u wann bomb sk ๐๐๐.... its batshit…
Hm are you sure it is "all"... ??? kdramas are full of humor and warmth that cannot be faked. That exists too... together with the pressure to perform. So I would refrain from using "all"
Ah good point yes ... so maybe that's why a merger of N and S is necessary, to reset the situation to normal? and have both places live affluently. Is that why Tempest?
I have a free and easy solution to make this drama a lot more watchable. The camera/ video ppl should watch Nice to Not Meet you. They are putting scenes SO WELL that jumps in time are actually helping to understand the story. The camera is GENIUS there Another good one to learn from is Dream life of Mr.Kim, that is filmed well too
I am enjoyng the filming there so much. Whoever is putting the video together, is a master of their job, bc the scenes jump from past to present and vice versa so smoothly, it is a pleasure to watch, it really helps the story.
( I was thinking that Moon River filming / video crew needs to take lessons here, their drama scenes so chopped up it is not watchable anymore. )
I LOVE this drama!!!! it is hilarious!!! and getting better and better every episode!!!! FL actress is just perfect as that nerdy stiff reporter defrosting in love... and ML actor is really good at rom com and melo, also defrosting, omg this is sooooo fun!!!! His dinner try was missed only by the reporter LOL
Even ML's scarves and necklaces are tolerable now LOL His fashion used to irritate me, now I like the charcter quirkiness so I am amused by his collection of scarves and pajamas and bathrobes... That yellow leopard was SCREAMING for fashion police... seriously LMAO === EDITED LATER: tht yellow leopard was not screaming for fashion police... it was screaming for KPG police... it clashes with the image "prickly spoiled diva and nerd wall flower ML" .... BUT THT IS THE SIDE WE SEE OF HIM THUS FAR... IT DAWNED ON ME - HIS FASHION SCREAMS THAT HE IS YOUNG, WILD, AND CRAZY and that is the key to matching in age with FL, who never showed that side so far. ==========:
I am enjoyng the filming too. Whoever is putting the video together, is a creative genius and a master of their job, bc the scenes jump from past to present and vice versa so smoothly, it is a pleasure to watch, it really helps the story. ( I was thinking that Moon River crew needs to take lessons here, their drama is so chopped up it is not watchable anymore. )
Director B is also super fun. Th scene of 3 guys figuring it out was totally hilarious LOL The last scene with the teddy bear and kids and the two staring, sent me off my seat, laughing LMAO and the preview was so touching, the expression and light in his eyes when he admitted was beautiful acting, beautifully filmed
FL character is brought to life so good. Just the way she walks, stiff neck and lollygagging from side to side... Omg FL is absolutely REAL The contrast between her total stiffness yet astute observation and honesty, and his melodramatic drama queen trying and failing, is SO COMICAL
Imo this is 10 out of 10 drama. The music is hilarious too as it matches the action perfectly
I think the Sqid Games audience that came to see "their" actor probably cannot get it LOL bc this is truly a real life experience with a tragi-comical angle
I love it. Yeah the confession cliffhanger is all right for 2 weeks. And yeah 16 episodes is a lot better than 12. There is no way to finish this mess in 2 episodes... . I would gladly watch more than 16 :)
Why would the ML send another guy on the blind date? He is 50 not 15.I guess the writer did it for the comedy.…
Why are YOU behaving like an entitled 15 yr old? ML is a very famous actor who is two timing Ms Wi and the Onion Lady. Imagine the scandals .... that he is trying to avoid by getting rid of the Onion Lady
Woojin didn't look for his twin because his mother had said that his twin had died. And you cant just giving your…
Woo Jin also listened to his mother saying he has to take over the company and essentially steal it from SJ. SO IT IS WOO JIN'S FAULT TO ALWAYS LISTEN TO HIS MOTHER
As for liver - then Ms Ko should have given HER liver :) and, for a huge amount o money like 17.5 mil, it should be a LOT easier to find a donor, dont you think?
Dont defend Wu Jin. He was Ms. Ko's puppet for 30 years, no questions asked. He should pay for that. He is a smart cognizant person and he should be held responsible.
If u watch strong geum soon n unknown woman u ll go crazy to the extent u wann bomb sk ๐๐๐.... its batshit…
Ok thanks, now I know what NOT to watch :) that is why I stay out of dailies :) As for family dramas, Once Again and My Father is Strange are my measuring sticks
Korea doesnt need bombing... They are already self destroying.... Their birth rate is one of the lowest in the world, IF NOT THE LOWEST, so they are disappearing fast. No wonder!!!! those overly skinny women that couldnt kiss anyone for real and young ppl donating their livers and ruining their lives so that some doozie old foggie can live 3 more years... TOTAL BOLOGNEY that will self genocide them all Esp if they quit their own traditional food and habits on top of it. They are gonna be GONE real fast
The precious gift from this drama to me is discovering People are More Beautiful Than Flowers song by Ah Chi Hwan, Jan 1, 1997 that was played at the very last scene of the Typhoon Family drama, when they walk to lunch:
S Korea went through economic collapse in 1997... and this song is from that time. The IMF crisis in Korea occurred in 1997, beginning in late 1997 when the country faced a severe foreign exchange shortage as foreigners pulled capital out of Korea.... and Korea requested a bailout from the International Monetary Fund. This led to the IMF providing a US$58.4 billion bailout package in December 1997, which was conditional on a wide range of financial and corporate reforms. KOREANS PAID IT OFF IN 3 YEARS :)
This song is from that time
People are More Beautiful Than Flowers song by Ah Chi Hwan, Jan 1, 1997
A person who lives with a song that is like a river Will know, will know
Why the dark mountains seep into the rivers when evening comes As you dream, the deeper the night gets They quietly caress and embrace one another As they slowly grow attached to each other
No matter what anyone says, people are more beautiful than flowers Because people can overcome all of this loneliness No matter what anyone says, you are more beautiful than a flower Because you live as you embrace the warmth of a song
Itโs you, itโs you Itโs us, we have true love
A person who has suffered through harsh loneliness Will know, will know
How to not succumb to that sadness, how not to move out of the way
Flowers will sparkle right by your side With love that grows like leaves That grows into a forest, that becomes a mountain and remains as an echo
No matter what anyone says, people are more beautiful than flowers Because people can overcome all of this loneliness No matter what anyone says, you are more beautiful than a flower Because you live as you embrace the warmth of a song
Itโs you, itโs you Itโs us, we have true love
No matter what anyone says, you are more beautiful than a flower Because you live as you embrace the warmth of a song
Itโs you, itโs you Itโs us, we have true love
It is not really a sex song but PEOPLE song, a COMMUNITY song it is a Jesus / Buddha song :) about love for fellow human beings in spite of the cross we all bear - never turning our light off, but rising and shining
And the stupid plot of EH always saying I WILL HANDLE THIS on her own - and always falling down and getting stomped on. .. And she BLINDLY trusts Dir Ko - what is the proof that JW is her brother??? And that cheesy script - she cannot live without JW - heck she lived without even remembering him for 30 yrs.. she can continue. There is no guarantee he will be ok after donation and that she will be ok after donation, and he lived such a sleazy life, never looked for her, lied to her, and collaborated with his mother to steal the company from SJ... SO HECK THE ONLY LIVER THAT CAN BE DONATED IS MS. KO's
And EH NEVER asks any factual questions - for example - when did JW know she was his sister? How come he never looked for her? Why he lied about so many things for so many years? How come Ms Ko is not donating HER liver??? or buying one??? for 17.5 mil she can certainly buy it.
How many times has EH done stupidities like that? Like zillion times already. Even a monkey can learn, and a lot faster than this. EH is intellectually worse than a monkey.
EH IS STUPID. and her adoptive mother is stupid too. And of course JH has no idea who is SJ's stepmom. in other words, the script writer is really stupid and the script is shit, just copying and pasting THE SAME plot over and over and over and over again!!!!! HOW MANY TIMES???
We understand that the Korean culture wants women to be all giving, submissive, doormats, dumb and powerless, easy to manipulate, rash, irrational, too stupid to think. The whole world wants that so I am willing to face it yet again in kdramas, where this trope is the basis for most dramas.
BUT THIS IS TOO MUCH. It makes kdramas not worthy of watching at all. There are other better things to do in life than waste time watching TRASH.
I have up western media bc it is utmost trash. I can easily give kdramas too.
Actually, I made my decision. I AM NOT WATCHING THIS DRAMA ANYMORE. I am in the middle of watching ep 34 and I just turned it off. I do not care to watch this shi# liver donation FOR THE THIRD TIME in a KBS family drama. NUFF!!!!
I will wait until it is decided if JH or EH or anyone else who is NOT close is donating their livers
IF THEY DONATE, I am quitting this drama and all KBS family dramas from now on. If there is no donation, I will watch the remaining episodes.
It would be ok only if Dir Ko or her husband donated THEIR livers. Nobody else qualifies to donate. And Ko family has plenty of money to buy a liver. Dir Ko offered 17.5 million for liver. So go for it This donation is just to create a successor to steal the company from SJ... Heck no.
Enough of this totally shitty script. and perhaps sponsorship of liver donations.
There are better things to show in a drama. Dream Life of Mr Kim could have been a marvelous 50 ep drama.
or this https://www.reddit.com/r/kdramas/comments/1o199hh/typhoon_family_couple_teaser_a_stranger_holding/
Hm.... i think merger will turn it into S Korea alike but with more ppl.. Who wants to be poor like N...?
As for train song - sure, if you liked it. I dont LOL But I posted a youtube video with it for everyone. Search for my posts with keyword train song
I think Shopping Host is still too nice and a pushover but . waking up.
I think BLunt Sister is still too immature proud agrressive but ... waking up. Omg for a good reason, her new man is sooooo good looking in shape and has amazing smile!!!! The young stupid one coming back is just a fantasy drama plot to appease older women LOL A dude like tht is NOT coming back in real life :)
I think Perv's Wife is still to stiff and controlling but ... waking up.
I was impressed with "mother moments" in ep 7. Na Jeong exposed teh SEXISM of her mother, favoring a male child, who turned totally hopelessly selfish brat
And Perv's Wife exposed her narcissistic mother.
My own mother is BOTH of those mothers rolled into one, so as I watch this, I am forced to reflect and acknowledge how hard it is to be near someone like that. My mother is NOT someone I could talk to ever. She is a war refugee and she is "frozen" at age 6 when she experienced war attrocities and bombings. Having someone like that as a mother is difficult, to say at least. My mother is not nice, is not smart, and is not caring at all, and is completely void of self reflection and self responsibility. She is the 6-yr old nasty child I have to take care of LOL And so karmically it is what it is, so I just have to deal with it, first accepting it. I will help her live her last days as best as possible. But at one point... where is the line. I cannot sacrifice my life for her.
I am glad that NJ resolved it and that teaching that mothers are first people and have their own lives is so true.
I am waiting for someone to expose the nasty Big Boss, the female one, the one that acted the mother in Study Group. She is the key bully of NJ at work.
Na Jeong's father is law seems like an amazing character, so fun and I hope his son is too. In ep 7 he is so much more attentive to his family.
it totally went over my head about he and the other lady... I finally got it when someone explained it here...
So I am not sure WHY he didnt want his wife to work at Sweet Shopping?
WJ never looked for his sister - yeah his mother said she was dead - but WJ was well aware his mother was a liar and schemer - why did he believe her... ?
and WJ was keeping quiet and helping his mother to take the company away from SJ.
WJ lied to EH about studying abroad, etc
WJ is *not* a clean nice character. He is a passive VILLAIN.
Imo only Ms. Ko is qualified to give him or buy him a liver
Ah good point yes ... so maybe that's why a merger of N and S is necessary, to reset the situation to normal? and have both places live affluently. Is that why Tempest?
The camera/ video ppl should watch Nice to Not Meet you. They are putting scenes SO WELL that jumps in time are actually helping to understand the story. The camera is GENIUS there
Another good one to learn from is Dream life of Mr.Kim, that is filmed well too
I am enjoyng the filming there so much. Whoever is putting the video together, is a master of their job, bc the scenes jump from past to present and vice versa so smoothly, it is a pleasure to watch, it really helps the story.
( I was thinking that Moon River filming / video crew needs to take lessons here, their drama scenes so chopped up it is not watchable anymore. )
Even ML's scarves and necklaces are tolerable now LOL His fashion used to irritate me, now I like the charcter quirkiness so I am amused by his collection of scarves and pajamas and bathrobes... That yellow leopard was SCREAMING for fashion police... seriously LMAO
=== EDITED LATER: tht yellow leopard was not screaming for fashion police... it was screaming for KPG police... it clashes with the image "prickly spoiled diva and nerd wall flower ML" .... BUT THT IS THE SIDE WE SEE OF HIM THUS FAR...
IT DAWNED ON ME - HIS FASHION SCREAMS THAT HE IS YOUNG, WILD, AND CRAZY and that is the key to matching in age with FL, who never showed that side so far. ==========:
I am enjoyng the filming too. Whoever is putting the video together, is a creative genius and a master of their job, bc the scenes jump from past to present and vice versa so smoothly, it is a pleasure to watch, it really helps the story. ( I was thinking that Moon River crew needs to take lessons here, their drama is so chopped up it is not watchable anymore. )
Director B is also super fun. Th scene of 3 guys figuring it out was totally hilarious LOL
The last scene with the teddy bear and kids and the two staring, sent me off my seat, laughing LMAO
and the preview was so touching, the expression and light in his eyes when he admitted was beautiful acting, beautifully filmed
FL character is brought to life so good. Just the way she walks, stiff neck and lollygagging from side to side... Omg FL is absolutely REAL
The contrast between her total stiffness yet astute observation and honesty, and his melodramatic drama queen trying and failing, is SO COMICAL
Imo this is 10 out of 10 drama. The music is hilarious too as it matches the action perfectly
I think the Sqid Games audience that came to see "their" actor probably cannot get it LOL bc this is truly a real life experience with a tragi-comical angle
I love it. Yeah the confession cliffhanger is all right for 2 weeks.
And yeah 16 episodes is a lot better than 12. There is no way to finish this mess in 2 episodes... . I would gladly watch more than 16 :)
SO IT IS WOO JIN'S FAULT TO ALWAYS LISTEN TO HIS MOTHER
As for liver - then Ms Ko should have given HER liver :)
and, for a huge amount o money like 17.5 mil, it should be a LOT easier to find a donor, dont you think?
Dont defend Wu Jin. He was Ms. Ko's puppet for 30 years, no questions asked. He should pay for that. He is a smart cognizant person and he should be held responsible.
As for family dramas, Once Again and My Father is Strange are my measuring sticks
Korea doesnt need bombing... They are already self destroying.... Their birth rate is one of the lowest in the world, IF NOT THE LOWEST, so they are disappearing fast. No wonder!!!! those overly skinny women that couldnt kiss anyone for real and young ppl donating their livers and ruining their lives so that some doozie old foggie can live 3 more years... TOTAL BOLOGNEY that will self genocide them all Esp if they quit their own traditional food and habits on top of it. They are gonna be GONE real fast
S Korea went through economic collapse in 1997... and this song is from that time. The IMF crisis in Korea occurred in 1997, beginning in late 1997 when the country faced a severe foreign exchange shortage as foreigners pulled capital out of Korea.... and Korea requested a bailout from the International Monetary Fund. This led to the IMF providing a US$58.4 billion bailout package in December 1997, which was conditional on a wide range of financial and corporate reforms. KOREANS PAID IT OFF IN 3 YEARS :)
This song is from that time
People are More Beautiful Than Flowers
song by Ah Chi Hwan, Jan 1, 1997
A person who lives with a song that is like a river
Will know, will know
Why the dark mountains seep into the rivers when evening comes
As you dream, the deeper the night gets
They quietly caress and embrace one another
As they slowly grow attached to each other
No matter what anyone says, people are more beautiful than flowers
Because people can overcome all of this loneliness
No matter what anyone says, you are more beautiful than a flower
Because you live as you embrace the warmth of a song
Itโs you, itโs you
Itโs us, we have true love
A person who has suffered through harsh loneliness
Will know, will know
How to not succumb to that sadness, how not to move out of the way
Flowers will sparkle right by your side
With love that grows like leaves
That grows into a forest, that becomes a mountain and remains as an echo
No matter what anyone says, people are more beautiful than flowers
Because people can overcome all of this loneliness
No matter what anyone says, you are more beautiful than a flower
Because you live as you embrace the warmth of a song
Itโs you, itโs you
Itโs us, we have true love
No matter what anyone says, you are more beautiful than a flower
Because you live as you embrace the warmth of a song
Itโs you, itโs you
Itโs us, we have true love
etc etc etc
There are all kinds of lyrics online
I like this translation: https://lyricstranslate.com/en/salam-i-kkochboda-aleumdawo-people-are-more-beautiful-f.html-0
#kpop #people #flowers #love #loneliness #sadness
It is not really a sex song but PEOPLE song, a COMMUNITY song
it is a Jesus / Buddha song :) about love for fellow human beings in spite of the cross we all bear - never turning our light off, but rising and shining
as you can see, it goes with the footage of some previous korean president
https://www.facebook.com/100066479679627/videos/an-chi-hwan-people-are-more-beautiful-than-flowers-english-s/1076531012476571/
And EH NEVER asks any factual questions - for example - when did JW know she was his sister? How come he never looked for her? Why he lied about so many things for so many years? How come Ms Ko is not donating HER liver??? or buying one??? for 17.5 mil she can certainly buy it.
How many times has EH done stupidities like that? Like zillion times already. Even a monkey can learn, and a lot faster than this. EH is intellectually worse than a monkey.
EH IS STUPID. and her adoptive mother is stupid too. And of course JH has no idea who is SJ's stepmom.
in other words, the script writer is really stupid and the script is shit, just copying and pasting THE SAME plot over and over and over and over again!!!!! HOW MANY TIMES???
We understand that the Korean culture wants women to be all giving, submissive, doormats, dumb and powerless, easy to manipulate, rash, irrational, too stupid to think. The whole world wants that so I am willing to face it yet again in kdramas, where this trope is the basis for most dramas.
BUT THIS IS TOO MUCH. It makes kdramas not worthy of watching at all. There are other better things to do in life than waste time watching TRASH.
I have up western media bc it is utmost trash. I can easily give kdramas too.
I will wait until it is decided if JH or EH or anyone else who is NOT close is donating their livers
IF THEY DONATE, I am quitting this drama and all KBS family dramas from now on.
If there is no donation, I will watch the remaining episodes.
It would be ok only if Dir Ko or her husband donated THEIR livers. Nobody else qualifies to donate. And Ko family has plenty of money to buy a liver. Dir Ko offered 17.5 million for liver. So go for it This donation is just to create a successor to steal the company from SJ... Heck no.
Enough of this totally shitty script. and perhaps sponsorship of liver donations.
There are better things to show in a drama. Dream Life of Mr Kim could have been a marvelous 50 ep drama.