So in ep 116 all the cards are out ... What COULD happen next... ? NINE episodes....?? CAN our heroes attack to self defend?
Is Lucia in a position to threaten the Chairman? in other words: IS LUCIA'S EVIDENCE EFFECTIVE AND ADMISSIBLE IN COURT?
One person says yes, since the papers and hankie prove that the chairman was involved.
Another person says no, since there is no proof that the Chairman stole the papers and that he is the murderer, anyone could put JPS blood on Chairman's henkie..
TK said that the papers were not admissible in court bc they were stolen. Why?
So what is actually true here? ANyone with legal expertise? Thanks.
This is like the shootout in a cowboy movie, when they all stand on the street and shoot LOL
I hear you... the discussion helps me to see things I did not see, different points of view and also sheer facts i just missed from the drama.... The key points often just flash by in a second... So I watch after a few episodes, a week at most.
How is this different than Lucia's blind yelling about Mi So at the start of the drama?
Aha that makes sense about the hankie... I do not understand the legal issues here... IF THERE IS A CCTV IN CHAIRMAN'S OFFICE so Lucia can prove she took it out of his drawer i.e. he had it? So... Those papers are illegal now since they were stolen from Pan Su? Why? I dont understand wht TK was saying about stolen evidence as inadmissible... It flashed on the screen, so did I see it correctly that the papers were signed by Pan Sul, not the Chairman? So what is the actual physical evidence that the Charmain and TK's parents had a contract about TK's parents' technology? Hm so that means Pan Sul should testify about that connection... ?
Thanks for explaining it
So the bottom line is: Lucia is a lot more proactive than before, but lacks the mental ability and technical knowledge to come up with strategies that will work... ?
Queen's House was different and that is why it is officially my FIRST daily ever :) It started super dumb and…
That is why I do not watch them LOL this is exception bc my staple KBS family drama slot failed (Eagle Brothers SUC@ED ) so I looked for something else family then it was convenient only 30 mins to spare.. and then Queen's house turned interesting. So I tried Graceful Liar and WWSTS
No character change whatsoever in Lucia. She is more calm and more sleek and thats it. The same grainless emotional…
I somewhat changed my mind after seeing ep 116 when she pulled out the hankie ... She learned something, seems like, and is more active in protecting But she has not learned self reflection, etc At least she learned something :)
thanks , now I know I won't be watching it.. trash
@Tharr LOL so you wrote that nasty comment just because you were offended that I said you lack creativity? well you proved my point LOL you cannot discuss but want to be defensive..
The issue is that your right brain and your heart are shut down, so you cannot feel and cannot See the Big Picture or the finer points of what I described AND YOU DID NOT WANT FEEDBACK. YOU JUST WANTED TO SHUT ME UP :)
you dont want feedback unless it is a praise? you want feedback as a nit picking dissection? Unless I know exactly which trumpet made a mistake, I cannot say if I like the song or not? And my feedback about specifics I liked and disliked is not good to you? I was quite specific..
Read the list of things you asked me to evaluate, it is straight from a class on film critique LOL super technical Sure a comment like "I dont like the food bc it is burned" is an appropriate comment but you asked for a lot more than that. Also the issues I described and the likes are a lot finer than "food is burnt" You are asking me to explain why I liked something...
you should follow your own recipe and explain why the bi guy liked that "fat ugly unpopular chick". Do you even know? CAN you even know?
And you dont value what I did say about what I liked and disliked and why ... SO IF YOU DO NOT WANT FEEDBACK, THEN WHY ASK FOR IT??
LOL so I need a PhD and YOUR list of standardized objective things to comment on to comment if I like or not like it? That is arrogant and useless NITPICKING BUREAUCRACY, besides lacking creativity :)
your list sounds like what is used for grading a report in a classroom. Are you some kind of professor? LOL Or an interviewer? Or some grant-giver? Olympic judge? Or some advertiser trying to figure out what sells? Just to let you know, your little questionairre to make it look objective and standardized does NOT work in real life. In real life, PEOPLE LIKE OR DISLIKE AND THEY USE IT OR NOT USE IT, THEY PAY MONEY TO WATCH OR THEY DO NOT.
Only advertisers and manipulators look for specifics they can exploit :) and yeah this nitpicky kind of logic is very useful to them and they always collect it :)
As for ordinary ppl, EVERYONE IS ENTITLED TO HAVE THEIR OPINION AND LIKE AND DISLIKE :)
Bye bye farawell LOL there is no point in talking with you :)
thanks , now I know I won't be watching it.. trash
@Tharr so in summary, sexuality is dependent on proper diet and lifestyle, physical, mental spiritual health... and imo the East knows a lot more about body and sexuality than the West and so do not blindly believe some magazine or "cool" things... The West is just faking sexual, human and relationship proficiency... LOL they aint got it... All those flashy sexy looking people and things are just a mirage LOL The contribution of the West is openly and honestly talking about things. Including environment and women. For centuries, patriarchy exploited and oppressed Nature and women. The contribution of kdramas is showing meaningful human relationships and character growth, individually and within the fabric of the society. Recently, the hard core sexism is starting to break so kdrama heroines are more real women with common sense and do not depend on the ML to save them and guide them since they are so dumb and hopeless they need a backing. In this kdrama, we see that ML at first was portrayed as dumb but by ep 8 it is clear he is not so dumb, he is a master of relationships and he understands lying. How he caught his manager is masterful.... How he tried to help FL is masterful... He is not well educated in modern ways and may not understand very analytical things LOL He is honest, caring, kind, and communicates openly. FL is a real person, also honest and communicates openly. Both of them are hard working honest people with integrity. There is no alcohol and issues.... They meet "in the middle of the chapter" of their lives and now they are starting to mesh their lives as a pair. So from there, this is a start of a good love story. Do not ruin it with some flashy shocking product placement that might tickle the audience but take away from the content. Sure show the issues but do not let them take over. Where to draw the line ... is a trick question.
thanks , now I know I won't be watching it.. trash
PS sorry for being lengthy but you asked... LOL and I am procrastinating with dealing with super toxic draining topic, having to write complaints against attorneys and judges stealing homes in Hawaii under pretense of law... So this is more intresting for sure LOL So you asked me for a more specific opinion, and here it is...
This is like the shootout in a cowboy movie, when they all stand on the street and shoot LOL
Good idea. I am watching a few ep at a time and it works. Thanks for the shootout :) I learned something today. I think high noon is bc it is easy for all to know what time it is and also, the sun is equal to both parties and not going into their eyes. The most unfair shootout would be dawn or sunset bc all that sun would be going into the eyes of the guys facing the sun :) it is like a guaranteed death for them :)
I suspected that there is a lot more to Se Hun's character than meets the eye of meek mama boy who also hides…
We got to see Se Hun as a sexual psycho, torturing RealYC with his half naked body in utmost arrogant confidence. Wow that dude is gonna be causing problems... !!! HE FEELS TOTALLY ENTITLED.... and the only thing preventing him from showing his true colors so far is his "love" for FakeYC.... and she is going to "dissolve into thin air" in a second....
And he is sooo naive to keep blindly sticking to JW... why? Love? Lust? A nice new toy? .... But JW does not love him. She is just getting a high on his attention and love. When he finally figures that out... plus that she was deceiving him and using him... well...
Ough... what is next? Se Hun, the wild card... what move will he make?
Now he has no money anymore, and definitely JW has none, will he still be in love?
And... RealYC.... is after him..... As we suspected. And we all predicted she will catch him. But did you expect it to be like what we saw in the shower??? RealYC is quite some racy lewd lose character...who loves to commit crime, she said.... A criminal. She admitted she does not really like him but is seducing him as a part of her game
I suspected that there is a lot more to Se Hun's character than meets the eye of meek mama boy who also hides this streak of power-loving cruelty like his dad... But the shower scene was something else. And anyone who said SH was not interesting or handsome, will have to eat their words :)
Sooooo..... Ough... what is next? Se Hun, the wild card... what move will he make?
How is this different than Lucia's blind yelling about Mi So at the start of the drama?
Oh I forgot that Pan Sul reported it to police. So ... why was TK saying those papers are not admissible in court then.... ? It is like Lucia found stolen property.... Maybe TK did not know Pan Sul reported it... ?
The end of ep 44 Sweet Serial Killer Chairman talking to RealYC and then with JW - wow that is scary!!!! That actor is so good!!! he was totally totally TERRIFYING in those scenes!!! The camera made it even more so, with his face over the whole screen, as the victim would see it before he devoured them... WOW!!!! then seeiing it from the side, how small JW is compared to him... and the fear in RealYC and JW when talking with him... And his eyes and demeanor... changing into I WILL EAT YOU threat... while the voice still stays polite... and says he will kill you ... AAAH SOOOO CREEPY HORRIFYING, MEETING A PREDATOR READY TO KILL YOU!!!!! I think that is how a victim must feel when that tall innocent yellow grass turns out to be a hungry lion... it is like meeting a monster face to face!!!! The camouflage fell off and you can see what is behind that sweet polite face... utmost cruelty.... This is one of best horror scenes ever!!!! esp since he is so much bigger than those skinny chicks - he is like twice th size of JW when they sat facing each other.... btw did you see RealYC legs when she got out of HR's talk??? she is like a skeleton.... Anyways, that Chairman ... added a horror element to this drama. He is worse than a nightmare....
There is this whole discussion: is JW doing a revenge or a greedy grab. IT is like a chicken and the egg question, but I do believe that the GREED is the starting point
JW said she wanted the riches. And she is getting them by taking them away, in the same way it was done to her.
So... what's th point here... ??? this is a competition of who is the worst
JW needs to go to some kind of therapy where she learns to self reflect and stop being a petty whiner causing chaos in so many people's lives. Yeah many ppl have difficult lives and JW is just one of many.... . So then join the club, and put your time and effort where it REALLY counts. GROW, JW. You got about 55 episodes left to do so...
and JW actress should be sent to a crash course in acting .
I just finished ep 44 and I still do not understand wth is Ha Neul doing. Please - ideas! He is chasing JW as a lover but she is an immature girl doing stupid stuff, and he watches her do it and even helps her, and keeps complaining about it. Then all his advances and trying to woo her away from her husband, and she just rejecting him all the time. I can see why JW is stuck on SH, he is a rich hunk who adores her, so yeah! LOL WHAT IS THAT DUDE HN EVEN THINKING??? I dont understand his behavior. Even threatening the serial killer psycho... !!!! that is like ... suicidal...
Also, he has zero chemistry with JW, as someone already said. HN actor is just not all that ... skilled.. and JW actress is terrible in acting... so the two o them together just doesnt work at all
MDS is an excellent psychiatric study of a serial killer psychopath who is pretending to live a family life
I think such ppl do family life bc that is how they get "slaves" and can use ppl for their own benefit , ie they create their own pack... it is like forming your own little army and a network of connections, and indeed camouflaging into the larger social network as a "normal member" . As you said... very chilling.
How is this different than Lucia's blind yelling about Mi So at the start of the drama?
Yes, indeed, a few mins ago I just saw ep 116 and she is ... armed. Indeed that is a shift. Can TK's papers hold in court since she was acting Chairperson when she broke the drawer? How about the henkie?
Is Lucia in a position to threaten the Chairman? in other words: IS LUCIA'S EVIDENCE EFFECTIVE AND ADMISSIBLE IN COURT?
One person says yes, since the papers and hankie prove that the chairman was involved.
Another person says no, since there is no proof that the Chairman stole the papers and that he is the murderer, anyone could put JPS blood on Chairman's henkie..
TK said that the papers were not admissible in court bc they were stolen. Why?
So what is actually true here? ANyone with legal expertise? Thanks.
So I watch after a few episodes, a week at most.
I do not understand the legal issues here... IF THERE IS A CCTV IN CHAIRMAN'S OFFICE so Lucia can prove she took it out of his drawer i.e. he had it? So...
Those papers are illegal now since they were stolen from Pan Su? Why? I dont understand wht TK was saying about stolen evidence as inadmissible...
It flashed on the screen, so did I see it correctly that the papers were signed by Pan Sul, not the Chairman? So what is the actual physical evidence that the Charmain and TK's parents had a contract about TK's parents' technology?
Hm so that means Pan Sul should testify about that connection... ?
Thanks for explaining it
So the bottom line is: Lucia is a lot more proactive than before, but lacks the mental ability and technical knowledge to come up with strategies that will work... ?
then it was convenient only 30 mins to spare.. and then Queen's house turned interesting.
So I tried Graceful Liar and WWSTS
But she has not learned self reflection, etc
At least she learned something :)
The issue is that your right brain and your heart are shut down, so you cannot feel and cannot See the Big Picture or the finer points of what I described
AND YOU DID NOT WANT FEEDBACK. YOU JUST WANTED TO SHUT ME UP :)
you dont want feedback unless it is a praise?
you want feedback as a nit picking dissection?
Unless I know exactly which trumpet made a mistake, I cannot say if I like the song or not?
And my feedback about specifics I liked and disliked is not good to you? I was quite specific..
Read the list of things you asked me to evaluate, it is straight from a class on film critique LOL super technical
Sure a comment like "I dont like the food bc it is burned" is an appropriate comment but you asked for a lot more than that.
Also the issues I described and the likes are a lot finer than "food is burnt" You are asking me to explain why I liked something...
you should follow your own recipe and explain why the bi guy liked that "fat ugly unpopular chick". Do you even know? CAN you even know?
And you dont value what I did say about what I liked and disliked and why ... SO IF YOU DO NOT WANT FEEDBACK, THEN WHY ASK FOR IT??
LOL so I need a PhD and YOUR list of standardized objective things to comment on to comment if I like or not like it? That is arrogant and useless NITPICKING BUREAUCRACY, besides lacking creativity :)
your list sounds like what is used for grading a report in a classroom. Are you some kind of professor? LOL Or an interviewer? Or some grant-giver? Olympic judge? Or some advertiser trying to figure out what sells?
Just to let you know, your little questionairre to make it look objective and standardized does NOT work in real life. In real life, PEOPLE LIKE OR DISLIKE AND THEY USE IT OR NOT USE IT, THEY PAY MONEY TO WATCH OR THEY DO NOT.
Only advertisers and manipulators look for specifics they can exploit :) and yeah this nitpicky kind of logic is very useful to them and they always collect it :)
As for ordinary ppl, EVERYONE IS ENTITLED TO HAVE THEIR OPINION AND LIKE AND DISLIKE :)
Bye bye farawell LOL there is no point in talking with you :)
The contribution of the West is openly and honestly talking about things. Including environment and women. For centuries, patriarchy exploited and oppressed Nature and women.
The contribution of kdramas is showing meaningful human relationships and character growth, individually and within the fabric of the society. Recently, the hard core sexism is starting to break so kdrama heroines are more real women with common sense and do not depend on the ML to save them and guide them since they are so dumb and hopeless they need a backing.
In this kdrama, we see that ML at first was portrayed as dumb but by ep 8 it is clear he is not so dumb, he is a master of relationships and he understands lying. How he caught his manager is masterful.... How he tried to help FL is masterful... He is not well educated in modern ways and may not understand very analytical things LOL He is honest, caring, kind, and communicates openly. FL is a real person, also honest and communicates openly. Both of them are hard working honest people with integrity. There is no alcohol and issues.... They meet "in the middle of the chapter" of their lives and now they are starting to mesh their lives as a pair. So from there, this is a start of a good love story.
Do not ruin it with some flashy shocking product placement that might tickle the audience but take away from the content. Sure show the issues but do not let them take over. Where to draw the line ... is a trick question.
Thanks for the shootout :) I learned something today.
I think high noon is bc it is easy for all to know what time it is and also, the sun is equal to both parties and not going into their eyes.
The most unfair shootout would be dawn or sunset bc all that sun would be going into the eyes of the guys facing the sun :) it is like a guaranteed death for them :)
HE FEELS TOTALLY ENTITLED.... and the only thing preventing him from showing his true colors so far is his "love" for FakeYC.... and she is going to "dissolve into thin air" in a second....
And he is sooo naive to keep blindly sticking to JW... why? Love? Lust? A nice new toy? ....
But JW does not love him. She is just getting a high on his attention and love. When he finally figures that out... plus that she was deceiving him and using him... well...
Ough... what is next? Se Hun, the wild card... what move will he make?
Now he has no money anymore, and definitely JW has none, will he still be in love?
And... RealYC.... is after him..... As we suspected. And we all predicted she will catch him. But did you expect it to be like what we saw in the shower??? RealYC is quite some racy lewd lose character...who loves to commit crime, she said.... A criminal. She admitted she does not really like him but is seducing him as a part of her game
But the shower scene was something else. And anyone who said SH was not interesting or handsome, will have to eat their words :)
Sooooo..... Ough... what is next? Se Hun, the wild card... what move will he make?
I think that is how a victim must feel when that tall innocent yellow grass turns out to be a hungry lion... it is like meeting a monster face to face!!!!
The camouflage fell off and you can see what is behind that sweet polite face... utmost cruelty....
This is one of best horror scenes ever!!!! esp since he is so much bigger than those skinny chicks - he is like twice th size of JW when they sat facing each other....
btw did you see RealYC legs when she got out of HR's talk??? she is like a skeleton....
Anyways, that Chairman ... added a horror element to this drama. He is worse than a nightmare....
IT is like a chicken and the egg question, but I do believe that the GREED is the starting point
JW said she wanted the riches. And she is getting them by taking them away, in the same way it was done to her.
So... what's th point here... ??? this is a competition of who is the worst
JW needs to go to some kind of therapy where she learns to self reflect and stop being a petty whiner causing chaos in so many people's lives. Yeah many ppl have difficult lives and JW is just one of many.... . So then join the club, and put your time and effort where it REALLY counts. GROW, JW. You got about 55 episodes left to do so...
and JW actress should be sent to a crash course in acting .
Then all his advances and trying to woo her away from her husband, and she just rejecting him all the time. I can see why JW is stuck on SH, he is a rich hunk who adores her, so yeah! LOL
WHAT IS THAT DUDE HN EVEN THINKING??? I dont understand his behavior.
Even threatening the serial killer psycho... !!!! that is like ... suicidal...
Also, he has zero chemistry with JW, as someone already said. HN actor is just not all that ... skilled.. and JW actress is terrible in acting... so the two o them together just doesnt work at all
Can TK's papers hold in court since she was acting Chairperson when she broke the drawer?
How about the henkie?