Kathryn_51

I've been wondering whether the writers hanged TK's age when InOk married Father Gong.

I thought he was age 9 or 10, but in Episoide 10, InOk says that TK was in the 11th grade when they married.

Regarding the drunken/.mistaken night, I would feel cheated by the writers simply because the entire premise of the show is that a single woman became pregnant, her boyfriend cheated on her and didn't want her to keep the baby and that propels all of the story/family dynamics forward. [the other catalyst, of course, is the forced marriage]. It would be far more meaningful if the end story is that families can be many things and "blood" doesn't need to be the #1 element. In fact, if this is the end result, then automatic 1 Star rating.

Of course, perhaps she banged BOTH men w/in a 24 hour period and that's why she had twins originally. I would still hate that story because i prefer a story where family is based on love, not blood.

In one of the promo videos, the four main cast members were asked a variety of questions regarding the characters they play - one of the questions was about the character's family. AJH was really funny as he began to reel of various sisters, in-laws, grandmother, etc, etc. etc. Anyway, when asked, Jung Eui Jae said: "It's not known yet. I mean, it's a secret. If you watch to the end, you will know." At this point, this is the only reason I will continue to watch because Joon-ha is my favorite character (primarily because, unlike other characters, we don't know his back-story or what motivates him).

While suffering from broken foot bone, I've been spending too much time on the computer, but a couple of weeks ago, I did a deep dive on the Joon-ha character and posted this in the discussion section. It provides a bit more info on the character, but really - there isn't much available: https://mydramalist.com/discussions/the-real-thing-appears/109129-who-is-kim-joon-ha-the-only-main-character-unrelated-to-the-3-major-families

Yes, I thought there was a 2nd comment along those lines but I haven't located it yet and don't have time to rewatch every minute. Thanks for confirmation.

Unfortunately, I don't take notes until I realize that there are certain secrets/mysteries to be revealed (usually about 30% of the way through a drama) and that clues or even "red herrings" have been sprinkled around - and then I realize that certain comments (like "brother-in-law" insurance money) mean something w/r/t to parentage. I don't have time to re-watch every single episode, so when I do re-watch something and an innocent/meaningless comment appears, I take note. Example: it has been mentioned twice that InOk once taught kindergarten. huh??? why mention that once, let alone twice??!!

In the end, unlike most folks here oh MDL, I want to know JH's family history. That's why I am sticking around and I will be furious with the writers if they flub one of the major "secrets" that has been there from the beginning. As they say: "Hell hath no fury. . . "

Were there two comments about YD's father/BN's husband? This is from my notes (Ep 8,M ark 15)

BN to her brother: "If you did not steal your brother-in-laws insurance money [note; "brother in-law" is BN's hubby presumed dead because of the "insurance money'), Yeon do could afford her wedding (this was during dinner with TK where he got drunk and they were both saying they didn't want a wedding). Uncle did not apologize in that scene.

I thought there was another comment once about Uncle "borrowing" the money for some get-rich scheme, but I haven't found it yet, so probably my imagination.

Except that, as with any major lie/deceit, it was ALWAYS a risk. Every decision should have been what was best for the BABY - not either adult.

Not much info on it but if I did this correctly, here is the MDL link. https://mydramalist.com/749309-hierarchy

Lee Chae Min, the actor playing Min Ki (Qui?) is 22 years old, still in University and is booked solid (all on Netflix). Surprising that he is playing an older character in this drama but he's a rising star.

AoS2 - Guest role
Crash Course in Romance - Support
19th Life - Support
Hierarchy - Main Role

Yeah, but if they were married, it wouldn't make a difference - under current Korea law, JH would have zero rights to custody, visitation, nothing. She must have left the father's name off the birth registration (to put in TK's name would be fraud). i'm not like bloomingtide and most others - I've never cared much about YD's story because it will have a very happy ending - but I just don't want to watch a supposedly intelligent woman be so f**king stupid.

Yeah, preach it. And even worse IMO is that by running away and not getting married, she failed to protect HER BABY. I can't forgive her (well, actually I can't forgive the writers) for making her so stupid. Which means we will get the Most Unimaginative Trope Of All - the demand for THE DNA TEST. The one thing I was hoping they wouldn't make the viewer suffer through just to fill up a couple of episodes.

SJ was in charge of decorating the new" hotel apartment" so she would have had the passcode. As for TK never changing it after . . . . how many months w/YD there?

Putting up w/brain dead characters in 14-16 episode drama is tough, but in a 50 episoder, the writer thinks the VIEWER is brain-dead. Don't insult the viewer writer-nim.

As I've posted several times in the last few weeks, I don't think her hysteria/possesive love regarding TK has been hidden - it has manifested many times but never appeared full throttle until yesterday. I really hope we learn some of InOk's back story so that we can understand why she acts so desperately w/r/t him.

Bong Nim and her brother have mentioned twice that she inherited her good eyesight from their father. My impression of the writer is that they don't throw out red herrings (false clues) like that.

I woke up in the middle of the night (well 4:00 am my time) and decided to watch the raw feed for the first time. YD makes my blood boil with her noble idiocy. They jumped the shark today with all the cliches, not to mention that all other side stories have now "ended" apparently (JM/HW in particular). And why the hell is that Hee woman still in the picture - I swear if they try to make her into Strawberry that will be it for me because the age doesn't match up.

So we miss Ji Myeong's pregnancy as well??😢😢

Thanks for your perspective. Sounds like I need to watch - and probably won't be on viki until at least 9:00 pm on the West Coast. Venting her anger on YD makes sense because up to now, she has always protected TK and blamed others (OR, herself). But for her to make HIM choose - writer-nim not being very consistent. oh well, a plot device is a plot device, ut I prefer character driven stories.

Excellent analysis. I think there were several prior "incidents" that show that InOk is obsessed with her son. She was never bothered by the fact that he wasn't married or never stayed with any girlfriend longer than 3 months. Episode 4 (?): " Since I was pregnant with you, I decided to live as your mom. I decided to die as your mom and gave birth to you." She ran away from the family when TK said he would cut ties with the Gong family. She returned, only several episodes later announce she was going to divorce her husband (because the inexecrable Granny played a nasty stunt on TK). She was near hysteria in those scenes.

We don't know her back-story except: (1) she was apparently (?) married to TK's father and he died before TK was born. (2) She taught kindergarten. (3) She has endured humiliation from the Gong children for almost 20 years in an effort to protect TK.

The writer actually laid out the foundation for this (hysteria) if they choose to go in that direction; I hope they do because it would be far more interesting plot (InOk is more than simply TK's mother); why she has lived as a doormat all these years and why she feels so betrayed by the lies and deceit by her OWN SON. It isn't YD that betrayed her - it was her son.

I haven't watched yet either and won't until Viki release late tonight, but my primary question is going to be:

Is In-Ok the real psycho on this drama (there were scenes in past episodes about her hysteria and possessiveness when it involves TK) OR, was today's rampage merely the plot device writers chose to give us a 5 month time skip and all will be well by Ep. 36?

Thank you. I was really looking forward to this drama (together with "King the Land") but I am repelled by the Main Couple story - she's a stalker, he is a moody, somber mental case who lives in the past. I think the fact that their story checks all the boxes that I dislike (melodrama, reincarnation, childhood trauma) meant that it was never going to be a favorite. BUT, several people said that they loved the 2nd couple in the webtoon even more than the 1st couple, so I stuck with it. This drama really needed 16 episodes OR it should have cut the Main Couple scenes by 50% so that other character history could be explored more in depth. Looking back, it was marketed as something cute and funny (the trailers, the flamenco dancing, etc) but it is pure melodrama. I'll watch w/heavy hand on FF button but it will get one of my lowest MDL ratings ever.