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Replying to Kathryn_51 Apr 24, 2022
Title Crazy Love
I read somewhere that wedding scenes are problematic because of high cost involved. So, I'm keeping my hopes low…
Haha, when I said "Dad", I meant Lee Shin-ah's father. I will be disappointed if he is not in the last episode together with brother, and her roommate. GoTop friends would be icing on the cake to see everyone happy and secure.
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Replying to Elif Kim Apr 23, 2022
Title Crazy Love
A death threat targeting NGJ. That’s why NGJ was so affected, thinking none of them bothered to inform him about…
Was there a date on the email? I tried to find one, but couldn't see anything with English numbers.
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Replying to Kathryn_51 Apr 23, 2022
Title Crazy Love
I believe that Papa Beck is the final/top villain. December 2021: Oh Segi begins to embezzle “billions of Won”.…
Calm down gurih-gurih envoy - It's only a theory and in less than 48 hours, it may be blown apart, lol. 😎
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Replying to Kathryn_51 Apr 23, 2022
Title Crazy Love Spoiler
I read somewhere that wedding scenes are problematic because of high cost involved. So, I'm keeping my hopes low…
I do think that with the promos with bloody wedding dress, etc. that the viewer has earned the right to see an actual wedding! I want the family there as well, especially Dad.
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Replying to gurih-gurih enyoy Apr 23, 2022
Title Crazy Love
1. Ilpum Edu. Assume Gojin started working in Ilpum Edu in 2007 (Because Park Yangtae said something about 14…
At the very beginning of Ep 2, Chief Ma says that GoTop was formed in 2016 after taking over Jungsin Master Education. Not putting spoiler tag on this one. It took me days to locate that snippet.
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Replying to cattaurus Apr 23, 2022
Title Crazy Love Spoiler
I always thought he worked as a janitor under whatever company CEO Park had at the time, which I believed was…
We have never been told when Se-gi received the anonymous letter. But he wondered if Kang Min did it and that only makes sense if the letter came in after Kang Min was fired. I'm convinced the birthday cake scene was sincere - and Se-gi received the letter a couple of days later.
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Replying to Huxian Apr 23, 2022
Title Crazy Love Spoiler
Some pics from the filming staff. Second one has a major spoiler of something that might happen in the last two…
I read somewhere that wedding scenes are problematic because of high cost involved. So, I'm keeping my hopes low and expecting a beautiful engagement scene and few months later NGJ and LSA hanging that lovely photo on the wall of their home.
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Replying to Kathryn_51 Apr 23, 2022
Title Crazy Love Spoiler
Here is my “theory” because at least 80% fits what we have seen thus far. If I am wrong or way off, that’s…
I believe that Papa Beck is the final/top villain.

December 2021: Oh Segi begins to embezzle “billions of Won”. Why? My guess: Gambling Debt.

Mid-February 2022: (1) International “Celebrity” Gambling Ring under Investigation; (2) BSY returns to South Korea. Also mid-February but perhaps not relevant: Stalker Lady begins her countdown on the calendars and an anonymous email sent to all employees.
Things are set in motion.

Dr. Cho – the loan shark – has large sums of cash courtesy of Papa Baek. They charge usurious interest rates. Once the gambling syndicates are under investigation, a large source of under the table/tax free income is gone. [I admit – there is nothing to date that would indicate Papa Baek is involved in funding illegal gambling loans. But it fits this theory]. Papa Baek assigns Cho to BSY and orders him to implement a plan for taking over GoTop.

Kang Min, a gambling addict, is friends with Se-gi; Se-gi makes a special request asking NGJ to reconsider the firing. A desperate Kang Min is encouraged by “Dr. Cho” to “bump into” NGJ w/promise of big reward and Dr. Cho is in Gangneung to witness the hit. Se-gi receives anonymous message blaming NGJ for his sister’s death; he goes to Gangneung to confront NGJ but finds him injured and walks away. When Se-gi returns from the States he discovers NGJ has amnesia and he begins to plot revenge to crush NGJ.

Se-gi knows SJo from gambling (but does not know of connection to Se-Hee).
Secretary Jo and Se-gi meet occasionally. As part of Se-gi’s campaign to destabilize GoTop, Baek Edu is encouraged to recruit Gong Heecheol. BSY knew the EXACT arguments to use to recruit Gong – courtesy of Se-gi (via SJo). SJo told Se-gi when BSY was leaving office so that Se-gi could gently bump into her car. Se-gi provided LSA’s personnel file to SJo to hand to BSY. When Se-gi walked out of the justice center (Ep. 14) he recognized SJo immediately – even though they had never been face-to-face before on the show. See also Ep 14 scene in BSY’s office – they KNOW each other.

SJo’s backstory appears to be: was known as Chief Cho at Jungsin Master Education. Oh Se-hee and NGJ also worked there (big “M” on posters where Oh Se-hee walked the hall and in office). Se-hee was caught making photos of tests for reasons unknown (bribe? Blackmail? Gambling debt?). She may have been married (her father thought Se-gi was Se-hee’s husband). She committed suicide on April 15, 2015; she was 25 years old at the time. The phone recording was also dated April 15, 2015. [Side note: Although NGJ has said, at least once, something like “you will never work in this industry again”, I don’t believe he has ever said: “I will not forgive you”. He knows that the conversation never took place with him and Se-hee]. Did SJo push Se-hee off the roof? Don’t think so – it wouldn’t add anything to the plot at this point, but one way or another, SJo’s involvement will become known.

BSY and SJo have known each other for a long time – she trusts him and he protects her. He uses honorifics with her at all times. He might be the illegitimate Baek son (therefor half-brother), but I get an upstairs/downstairs vibe. He has not opposed or sabotaged her efforts to reunite with NGJ.

Stalker Girl is unrelated to GoTop takeover, unless she has been manipulated to de-stabilize NGJ and keep him from recognizing the real danger to GoTop. But that’s pretty lame and spoilers for Ep 15 say “As questions about Gojin's death threats be resolved one by one”.

Secretary Jo’s job was to de-stabilize GoTop so that Gunil Group could take it over. Kang Min’s fury at NGL was an opportunity to take care of it easily, but Secretary Jo doesn’t care if NGJ is alive or dead (yes, still holding out hope that he’s not a murderer, lol]. BSY’s plan to take over GoTop and bringing Se-gi on board is not part of Papa Baek’s plan and things are starting to unravel for him since he was somehow involved in Se-gi’s sister death.

Papa Baek has been overseas for two months but he will reappear at the end of Ep. 15 or beginning of Ep. 16.

That’s my story. I just can’t visualize a 16 episode story arc resolution based on SJo’s love for BSY, SJo’s jealousy of NGJ’s high IQ, SJo’s revenge plot for losing his job at Jungsin Master Education – if any are true, then lame ending and I take at least one star off my rating.
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On Crazy Love Apr 23, 2022
Title Crazy Love
Here is my “theory” because at least 80% fits what we have seen thus far. If I am wrong or way off, that’s okay. Sifting through the clues, re-watching when I am able, reading other posters’ thoughts and writing this down has been cathartic as I worked through my 5 stages of grief: denial, anger, bargaining, depression and finally acceptance that Secretary Jo is not a very nice person.
I welcome any comments, thoughts, facts that challenge my theory – that’s how investigations are properly managed – look at facts that do NOT support a narrative in order to resolve them.
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Replying to gurih-gurih enyoy Apr 23, 2022
Title Crazy Love
Chief Cho : Chief/Head of Baek Education's Secretary team Chief Ma : Chief/Head of Gotop Edu's research team,…
Thanks - I guess the English comparison would be "Manager" or "Direcctor" in a corporation.
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Replying to cattaurus Apr 23, 2022
Title Crazy Love Spoiler
We don't know anything about NGJ's life after his grandma passed away all the way upto the time he turned up as…
The sequence starts with Chief Ma talking about how GoTop was formed in 2016 by taking over Jungsin Master Education.(I assume it was the first day of the two-year internship),; next scene (at .54 seconds) was a different instructor talking about a Mountain something-or-other and that is where
I see a woman in a white sweater and long black hair. I think the woman looks like Na Soo Yeon. On the other hand, LSA called her Ms. Na Sooyeong but someone on this board said the Korean words were "Instructor Na Sooyeong". So good chance I'm just seeing things.
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Replying to Kathryn_51 Apr 23, 2022
Title Crazy Love
Very thoughtful post Elif Kim. Since CL isn't available in the US yet, and I have told family that we are going…
Ah yes, the "trolls". I learned long ago to ignore them, but went through some painful experiences before I wised up.
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Replying to dcinmb Apr 23, 2022
Title Crazy Love
Bonus BTS clips of pillow fight, Namsan kiss, onions, etc. (unsubbed): https://www.instagram.com/tv/CcrQVdiDoBR
Very special - glad they included the pillow fight.
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Replying to cattaurus Apr 23, 2022
Title Crazy Love Spoiler
We don't know anything about NGJ's life after his grandma passed away all the way upto the time he turned up as…
LOL - I posted something yesterday on this - what happened to that person? It was the start of the whole "who wants to kill NGJ" narrative used to promote the show and . . . . . .what happened? Pretty sure the event occurred in mid-February 2022 (a couple of weeks before NGJ birthday) - I won't be happy if writers don't explain what happened - was it a joke? security? was the person stopped or change their mind? I want to know.
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Replying to Elif Kim Apr 23, 2022
Title Crazy Love
I think some viewers find latest episodes “boring”/“less interesting” because they didn’t expect this…
Very thoughtful post Elif Kim. Since CL isn't available in the US yet, and I have told family that we are going to binge watch it when it does come here, I realized that they will miss 50% of the fun. Such as the scene where NGJ is quoting LSA from several episodes prior - will a binge watcher even catch on to why this was so hilarious?

I have come to the conclusion that viewers who comment on message boards fall into 3 categories: (1) those that love to debate characters - their flaws, their mistakes, justifying or criticizing their actions - as if they are real people (40%); (2) those that analyze kisses and skinship (romance factor)(40%); and (3) those that analyze the story/narrative - scripting, continuity, pacing, clues, details. (20%). I'm in the 20% category.
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Replying to Elif Kim Apr 23, 2022
Title Crazy Love
I keep rewinding the scene where OSG made NGJ listen to the voice clip of his sister & NGJ’s conversation.No…
Good question; I'm not sure we will ever know unless they need a witness as to what really happened that night. NGJ and SJo are about the same height, so don't think it's him. BTW, according to the show character list, SJo is 39 years old (played by an actor that is only 33 or 34)and NGJ is 35 (played by an actor that is 39).
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Replying to cattaurus Apr 23, 2022
Title Crazy Love
We don't know anything about NGJ's life after his grandma passed away all the way upto the time he turned up as…
It could be him, but since that scene was 3+ years ago and Kang Min was working at GoTop at the time (he claimed he helped build GoTop!), I doubt it. The person I'm looking at is at the 54 second mark - two seats in front of Lee Shin-ah.
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On Crazy Love Apr 22, 2022
Title Crazy Love
Question: What does the term "Chief" mean in the Korean Education System? As in, Chief Ma and Chief Cho?
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Replying to cattaurus Apr 22, 2022
Title Crazy Love Spoiler
We don't know anything about NGJ's life after his grandma passed away all the way upto the time he turned up as…
Like you, I don't want to be disappointed by the writers - they have been 99% perfect for FOURTEEN episodes. I'm banking on the big reveal to be something much more than Secretary Jo - although he has been a neutral (that is, no hints as to his past or his character/ethics) in the 1st 13 episodes, tossing in a totally new back story between NGJ and SJo in the 2nd to last episode will be a major disappointment to me. if that is the final "answer". I get that there is a Master Edu connection between Cho, NGL and Oh Se-hee but it would be the ultimate in lazy writing for the big reveal to be totally unrelated to everything before now.
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Replying to cattaurus Apr 22, 2022
Title Crazy Love Spoiler
We don't know anything about NGJ's life after his grandma passed away all the way upto the time he turned up as…
I think I saw Na Soo Yeon in the 2nd classroom scene, but could be wrong - hard to tell.
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