MareAzurre

Many thanks for bringing this reflection and the wider interpretation from the Chinese language and historical context. Very linked to your points is this phrase from ShuHe in ep 8: "The South Hui Kingdom cannot satisfy your ambitions so you would fill it with my heart and flesh" . SH was not a platonic love, he was a lover in all its meaning, he make himself available and vulnerable to DZA in ep 6 and, as his brother pointed out ,"you (SH) slept with him", with the enemy, for three months. I cannot stop linked this to the post-colonial feminist literature where it is explained how colonial and sexual domination intertwine. In captivity, in the extreme situation of conquest, the phrase "nán chōng" becomes even more relevant.

Re-watching - Episode 9 - All lost...again....5 years of longing
ShuHe - Our 6th Prince has only 24 years old when he lost his world again. He learnt to love with his soul and body, but his lover did not understand him and in the end felt like a betrayal. He lost his father who was starting to accept him, he lost his brother that hated SH but represented the future of the South Kingdom. His absence would fulfill SH darkest prophecy: he became the King.
He was not good at it and it transpired that people were not happy. During the nights, he long for his lost lover, he though of him all the time...his only love that became his enemy.
DuanZiAng- If SH lost everything, DZA lost even more, he lost the only "home" he ever had. He did not have a palace, a life of arts, a good doctor friend, a brother, a father, a country. DZA has been uprooted since his mother gave it to the Duan family and was "recovered" to the North Kingdom, not to become a son, but to become an assassin. SH became everything to him, his only love, his family, his capacity of dreaming again. All shattered in the night in the bridge. 5 years DZA long for SH. He missed him so much that his memories were like fire in his loins, a stabbing in his heart, every year weaker. DZA wanted a reward after so much suffering, He fought his way through the central plains, pacified the region, became the emperor, people welcomed him. He stopped at the South borders and wanted to form an aliance to reestablished "trade" he wrote, of course reestablished his liaison with SH too. SH rejected him plainly. He went as far as returning the dagger that were representing his feeling for SH. Nothing could drove him more to edge than this. He pressed on and conquered the South who welcomed him at the gates, but his lover preferred death than surrender. The rejection in the carriage, the rejection of the house and all the details that so lovingly and obsessively he cared for in preparation for the day SH would join him, all for nothing. From that suffering came the phrases we will never forget:
"You love the one who hates you, and hate the one who loves you" to which SH wisely respond: Are you not both?

Episode 15 - It proved that having a balance episode between the 2 CPs is a winning for the audience and not a detriment. We were all winners in ep 15. Nong lady, the author, director, CEO etc etc wanted to be in control of everything. For all of us who read the novel she wanted to follow to the comma, but wait a second, she is not a Pulitzer prize, so what on earth did not co share the creative process and allow more feedback from the experts. Why being so precious. He hired 4 main actors and sell the audience that there is going to be 2CPs, which is totally against the narrative of the novel. For all of us who love our Enigma character and his Alpha very well but it is obviously that there is a 2CP sydrome in da house why not to exploit it. That scene of SWL caring for GT in the bathroom was lovely. They spend how many? 13? at least episodes of SWL being a total a.. not proper decent interactions with GT, not decent dialogues why? Why not create a bit of a romance from the beginning something more equal I would have support that one totally. Anyway, at least a good all round episode is all I wanted to say in the end 😊

Third installment of haunted houses and hilarious scenes. At some point Xu had to side hugged Jin who was panicking. it always surprise me to watch people around them, not even the romantic couples are so clinging to each other as these two are. They are so much fun to watch.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DPYkXcCgc89/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
TianTian in X translating
https://x.com/yunton37496913

The length of the contract has not been disclosed. This is something that the fans made up. We don't know the clauses. It could be was only during the airing of ABO. 25% is the international rates for agency, but the Nong sister said the house was part of the payment? I think they said in a live. So I'm not sure. More likely they are responsible for the bills as any tenant would be

It is registered in singapore to avoid censor. There is also investement from there

Astonishing the conditons in which they filmed and delivered this beautiful BL. In the production team recent podcast it was said that there was a money dispute with one member of the crew who obstruct filming. the police intervened and they continue with less people and closed doors. The electricity was cut three times and they had to finish filming hurdling together in one corner with few spot lights. In this way, they delivered some last scenes, including SH going to visit a very ill DZA. The photo of Jin being craddled by Xu comes from this moment. this series is a pure labor of love. More reason to admire them
https://x.com/naayizhan/status/1974043154233110642

Yes, they will I am sure, so we have lots to look forward

Yes! Xu and Jin when they are watching, they are so close that they are almost melting in each other, closer impossible!

Thank you!

In RedNote and sometimes people translates from there to X, but my phone has automatic translation. I did not link to the photos, they are really lovely photos of him and his partner. I don't know, I think it is more private isn't it?

Sharing a joke, please take it as such. I don't like to assume anybody's sexuality and even less of actors doing BL, but this is hilarious. The comment say: "They keep inventing new ways to be gay" 😂😂😂 - Jin Jin combining their names, as if they are married 😂
https://x.com/luguangfan/status/1974092517567283484

On the serious side, it looks like the doctor - the actor Li Yixuan is proudly gay and his partner is either the director or somebody from the production team. He does not hide that one. So good for him.🌈

Exactly like that.

Actors like their shipping fans, but probably they don't want to be linked to their CP when they presenting another drama. It is disrespectful to the other actors. There are actors that were in BLs in Korea that they perform in other mainstream but they get together for CP fan meetings, the same in Japan. Those CP fans understand the concept of time and place. I know which CP are you talking about. They have always been accepting to the CP fans, they smiled at them and most important they quote their bromance/bl as one of their most important pieces of work. They have received more detriment from the solo fans of the other actor. They are constantly taking those to court. In China, ex CPs particularly mainstream, don't interact after a drama. In award ceremonies very few even acknowledge the other one. I remember I was so shocked by the 2CP of Journey to you. The guy ignore his CP totally, the girl tried to be friendly and this idiot not even look at her. Awful. The younger MLs are a bit better now, but for us outside China is shocking. So it is very likely that this CP, the one you are thinking of, are still good friends, but they cannot show it at all because they can get lots of hate.

Yes, it does!

It was an example that maybe Kipuka have more shipping fans that solo fan and He likes his CP fans very much, but let assume that in the future he has a solo event for a new event wouldn't not be too much that people keep referring to Elliot and not appreciate his solo effort? What do you think? Maybe you disagree

Honestly....🙄

The Director favourite scenes was the red robe bath scene. Yes indeed is beautiful but also heart breaking (By the way is so difficult to find information on the production teams on this series. I think Dan Nuo is the director and as we know one of the screen writers is Li Yixuan - the doctor)
http://xhslink.com/o/HO5WLjLq7A
https://x.com/lianhualouve/status/1966387111805976963

at least call them both papas, but mama and papa? I find it completely tasteless

I really dislike the Chinese fans calling BL actors as mama and papa (in general fujoshi can be so redundant with these sort of things!). It is not exclusive to ABO because mpreg theme. Every actor in China that performed as bottom is mama and top = papa. Then is husband and wife, why??? they are two males??? can you not at least call them husbands both of them?? Those could be endearing names for she/her and they/them if this is their preference, but not for he/him!!! Now that I am ranting. I do find distasteful from shipping fans to shovel the name of the other CP when the actor is promoting a work of his own. Actors appreciate their CP fans, very much, probably people like Kipuka, would mainly have shipping fans, but they should not make inappropriate remarks when they are in other solo projects.