This BETTER get a S2!!! I typically have an easy time separating my crime drama viewings with my romances ones buuuut never in my life had I rooted for a couple to turn into lovers more…. Ughhhhh Edit to add: the leads had a bond that was built on life & death. My sappy little heart can’t help but ship. 💟
Hard disagree with literally every other commenter below my message. This was a “Action- Thriller” that felt like it wouldn’t end. I don’t typically drop movies but I finally gave up on this trainwreck (pun intended) with 30 min to go. Don’t recommend. Also, the bombers reasoning for their crime was such an eyeroll inducing massive stretch that it felt ridiculous.
hello! can someone give me a timeline of episodes? i just want to know what ep are they going to divorce
Ep 14 she finds out about his lies/him knowing about her lies. Ep 15 reconciling fails so she moves out. They separate with the intent to divorce, but no divorce occurs.
Now THIS is something that I can get behind! Two infamous villainous actors playing morally grey villains that will fall in love?!? And one's a Chaebol?! All the way YESSSSS!
As I watch this, I keep thinking who will make the perfect FL and ML if they remake this into a Korean version.
Randomly, Lee Joon Gi (Flower of Evil & Scarlet Heart Ryeo) came to mind. He gives off the same crafty, stern, and mature vibes as WC. Maybe even a reunion drama between him and IU?! You know what... the more I think about it the more perfect that sounds!!!
Well, I have to agree with you on the slow pacing. I'm currently on Ep. 7 and struggling to keep going. The length…
Oh, I completely get what you mean! It's far from a perfect show, I just finished it yesterday and gave it a 7/10 as I shared your sentiments almost to the T. I will say, however, that the ending made up for some of the draggy parts in the middle- I won't go into specifics because you're still one episode shy of finishing. It was fine. Not spectacular. And imo nowhere near worth the crazy hype that it got. LCM (the ML) was a surprisingly good actor though! As he wasn't on my radar at all until this show.
I do think that all the cooking competition was a bit too long, but it was not boring for me. However the romance…
I'm glad to hear that you enjoyed this drama, that seems to be the general consensus. Agreed about the romance too, I only have the last ep to go but it's clear that they fed up crumbs on a show where they feast, lol.
Well, I have to agree with you on the slow pacing. I'm currently on Ep. 7 and struggling to keep going. The length…
It's the same problem I had as well! Minor spoiler, the cooking competition with Ming wraps up in ep 9. That 3-4 ep arc got really boring The extra episode length 1hr 20 instead of the typical 1hr made it worse. Lowkey if you're still on ep 7, then just skip to like the midway point of ep 9, and you really won't miss much. Ep 10 in particular picks up in terms of romance & excitement imo.
Before the competition, the leads spent time together preparing for the competition yes the mings were a bit long…
You're right. I'm a couple episodes behind as I only started watching last week rather than with a bunch of you as ep 1 aired. Just voicing my opinion because I was hyped to start this show and genuinely disappointed that I wasn't LOVING it as much as everyone else seems to be.
I mean those middle episode did drag so youre not wrong but overall I enjoyed it. please remember that this year…
Haven't gotten to the ending yet so I can't attest to that. Also, LCM really is doing a great job! But you brought up a really great point about this year being on the dryer side! I get what you mean since it's been a while, and this show is good (not extraordinary but still solid) people are fixating and probably even overhyping it by default. Fair enough. :)
Before the competition, the leads spent time together preparing for the competition yes the mings were a bit long…
At this point, I feel like I'm in too deep to drop. And as mentioned I don't hate the drama, I'm just not wowed by it like the majority seems to be. So my comment was more so to voice a different opinion than the glowing 10/10's. Especially, the 4 eps spent on a single competition out of a 12 ep show. One whole third was devoted to this cooking Ming vs Joseon debacle. (And IMO it wasn't 4 episodes (that are 1 hr 15+ min long) deserving.)
I'm genuinely confused on if I'm watching the same show as everyone else... Like did you all watch 3-4 episodes on just the Joseon chefs vs the Chinese chefs and not get bored?? First setting up the showdown & then 2-3 eps dedicated to the competition. I'm at basically the end of ep 9 we're getting literal CRUMBS of the leads together and instead having one freaking competition milked for 4 eps... :/ I know how hyped up and LOVED this drama is, but I don't get it??? It's very mid-tiered rather than the OUTSTANDINGLY applauded show IMO. Very 7/10 feels. *EDIT TO ADD: Before someone writes "She's a chef, iT's a FoOd ShOw!" I know, but one single competition being 3-4 episodes long felt too much. I don't mind the cooking oftentimes my mouth even waters! It's the dragging thats my issue.
Netflix really dropped the ball with the subtitles. All they had to do was toss in an extra caption explaining…
See I've been watching Korean dramas on and off for 10 years (mainly modern) and some of those still went over my head! I caught the "ottoke" one while watching, but missed the correlation between Gwinyeo & Gungyeo. 10/10 agree about Netflix subs sucking. UGHHH. The examples I used above were just things I remembered off the top of my head. For example, Gwinyeo wasn't explain until eps 2 or 3 (iirc) even though he called her that since ep 1. I literally thought it meant demon hence him being happy that she couldn't use her demon powers on the cliff, lol (my interpretation of that scene). Come to find out it means female ghost.
they decide to keep those words because there's no good translation for them as they probably don't exist in other…
Well I mean context clues help and my examples were a handful that I remembered off the top of my head. For example) Gwinyeo I literally thought meant demon until ep 2 or 3 where they explained it meant female ghost... I get what you mean by leaving noona & oppa, but for say a first time watcher of SK historicals (not me) I'm sure all the historical terms that SOMETIMES had like a 1 second reel revealing their meanings feels overwhelming. For the example of Chaehong, sure there isn't a direct english equivalent, but they could've put Consort Selection (or Mass Concubine Round-up) and then it'd have translated over just fine. They kept calling it Chaehong, the FL acted surprised like what do you mean Chaehong in this day and age?! etc...
Does anyone else find the Netflix subs insufferable??! Why are they directly translating the olden days words from hangul into that exact same word just spelled in English? Gwinyeo, Yeonhuigun, Chaehong, etc. Any other site using better subs because I feel like I'm only half understanding the Netflix ones. 😵💫
Edit to add: the leads had a bond that was built on life & death. My sappy little heart can’t help but ship. 💟
Also, the bombers reasoning for their crime was such an eyeroll inducing massive stretch that it felt ridiculous.
Maybe even a reunion drama between him and IU?!
You know what... the more I think about it the more perfect that sounds!!!
I will say, however, that the ending made up for some of the draggy parts in the middle- I won't go into specifics because you're still one episode shy of finishing.
It was fine. Not spectacular. And imo nowhere near worth the crazy hype that it got. LCM (the ML) was a surprisingly good actor though! As he wasn't on my radar at all until this show.
The extra episode length 1hr 20 instead of the typical 1hr made it worse. Lowkey if you're still on ep 7, then just skip to like the midway point of ep 9, and you really won't miss much. Ep 10 in particular picks up in terms of romance & excitement imo.
Just voicing my opinion because I was hyped to start this show and genuinely disappointed that I wasn't LOVING it as much as everyone else seems to be.
But you brought up a really great point about this year being on the dryer side! I get what you mean since it's been a while, and this show is good (not extraordinary but still solid) people are fixating and probably even overhyping it by default.
Fair enough. :)
Especially, the 4 eps spent on a single competition out of a 12 ep show. One whole third was devoted to this cooking Ming vs Joseon debacle. (And IMO it wasn't 4 episodes (that are 1 hr 15+ min long) deserving.)
I know how hyped up and LOVED this drama is, but I don't get it??? It's very mid-tiered rather than the OUTSTANDINGLY applauded show IMO. Very 7/10 feels.
*EDIT TO ADD: Before someone writes "She's a chef, iT's a FoOd ShOw!" I know, but one single competition being 3-4 episodes long felt too much. I don't mind the cooking oftentimes my mouth even waters! It's the dragging thats my issue.
The examples I used above were just things I remembered off the top of my head. For example, Gwinyeo wasn't explain until eps 2 or 3 (iirc) even though he called her that since ep 1. I literally thought it meant demon hence him being happy that she couldn't use her demon powers on the cliff, lol (my interpretation of that scene). Come to find out it means female ghost.
I get what you mean by leaving noona & oppa, but for say a first time watcher of SK historicals (not me) I'm sure all the historical terms that SOMETIMES had like a 1 second reel revealing their meanings feels overwhelming.
For the example of Chaehong, sure there isn't a direct english equivalent, but they could've put Consort Selection (or Mass Concubine Round-up) and then it'd have translated over just fine. They kept calling it Chaehong, the FL acted surprised like what do you mean Chaehong in this day and age?! etc...