Right now this drama is shaping up to be a VERY SOLID 10/10 for me. I think I love everything about it, especially how messy and flawed the characters are.
This is so interesting because I do not see this perspective on the FL at all. She meant what she said (that she…
I would agree (that she crossed her own line) except for the scene that came *right* before the scene where she goes to his apartment. In that scene, her friend said something along the lines of, "You're letting this one mistake hold you back. If you hadn't slept with him, you'd be focused on doing whatever you can do get those files." Realizing her friend was right, she did whatever she could to get the files. She went to his apartment, but she didn't cross any lines. She went there to beg him to give her the files, not to seduce him or be physically intimate with him. She did everything within her power to get the files short of crossing lines, which is exactly what she would've done if they hadn't slept together. As an aside, thanks for discussing this with me! I think that's why I like this drama so much. I love seeing what everyone is taking away from the interactions and character motivations.
Y'all. We all love JBR and (perhaps reluctantly) love the character of Luke.
But allow me to remind you of what he's said (his words). The scene in episode 9 when he pulls her away from the celebration, some of his dialogue while he keeps crowding her space.: "I supported your work too. How come you've never shown me any gratitude?" <-- this is false and manipulative, especially since she's a junior employee; she's always saying thank you and offered to take him out to dinner; she shows gratitude ALL THE TIME. He's trying to make her feel uncomfortable.
He puts the medal around her neck then says, "Let it be a reminder to stop running away (from me)."
She takes ANOTHER step away (from her boss) and communicates the following: "Running away keeps me safe." So all y'all who are accusing her of expecting him to be a mind-reader, y'all need to stop. She is communicating clearly here what her fear(s) are (and they're 100% valid). He knows this means: "My dude. You're my boss. If you keep doing this, I'm the one who is going to suffer. You'll be fine, but I'll be fired. I don't feel safe with you." She goes on to say/spell out, "We are different; I have to be strategic and think ahead (about my career)."
AGAIN he invades her space and says, "Do accidents fit into your plans, too?" So he disregards her VOCALIZED concerns about her own safety and basically taunts her for sleeping with him in the past. (Very mature...) Then he calls her "Heartless." (More manipulation). "You clearly like me, but keep holding back. Isn't that exhausting." So, once again disregarding her concerns about her safety. (Selfish)
She says, "I can't lose my job. The company doesn't allow office romances." So, again she expresses her concerns. If you're counting, this is the third time.
Also, if you're counting, during the first episode, he's the one who insisted "no office romances" be added as an HR policy. Thus, he's one of those dudes who follows the rules unless they're inconvenient to him (selfish and hypocritical).
Seeing that he can't manipulate her in this way (since office romances aren't allowed per his order, and therefore she has a point other than "I don't feel safe with you, I'm scared of losing my job" both of which he's ignored so far) he changes his approach: "If that bothers you, we can keep our relationship private. Dating is too much trouble (for me). And I can't be bothered to maintain a romantic relationship. If you're willing, we can keep this between us. If it works, we continue. If it doesn't, we end it. If either of us wans to date or sleep with someone else, we tell the other person honestly and end what we have."
She says, "Okay. But we have to be exclusive."
In summary, I love Luke. I do. But he is a real arrogant POS. And Flora's biggest flaw right now is trusting this hot a-hole who has been using his position of power to push her into a relationship she's been trying to avoid. Does that make her a pushover? A little. It definitely makes her incredibly naive to think he has her best interests at heart. He definitely does not.
Some of the places where the ML went wrong were in how he gave unsolicited advice when the FL joined the company.…
This is so interesting because I do not see this perspective on the FL at all. She meant what she said (that she wanted boundaries). He pushed and pushed and kept crossing the line. She told him multiple times that she wanted to only have a professional relationship with him, she switched teams, she told him he was being inappropriate in the stairway, etc. etc.
She's also a lot younger and more inexperienced than him (she's had one boyfriend, he's had A LOT of relationships). Regarding power dynamics, he holds all the power and she holds none. He's a man (and therefore always believed by society until proven guilty) and she's a woman (and therefore never believed by society until proven innocent). She's scared of losing her job.
And she's extremely attracted to him, respects and likes him as a person, doesn't know if she can trust him, worries she's not enough/not worthy of his higher status (not just at work, but also due to his wealthy background/parents).
I mean... you expect her to be savvy and shrewd, yet she was raised middle-class and sheltered. If anything, it seems like you want HER to be the mind-reader here.
Feeling vindicated reading your comment, I kept wondering if it was just me. The storyline is fine (nothing special…
Oh! Sorry, Khaana. I was responding to the OG poster (Juuu). But I 100% agree with you, to each their own! I'm sure I love some dramas that you didn't and vice-versa. No worries <3
Help, I'm not sure if I should keep watching - I'm on episode 15 and currently I'm losing interest, there's a…
Feeling vindicated reading your comment, I kept wondering if it was just me. The storyline is fine (nothing special / fairly common) but the romance does feel very flat. I do love Hou Ming Hao and Ai Mi, though. They're both great, but this drama is very *meh*.
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But I also really loved it...? GAH!
Realizing her friend was right, she did whatever she could to get the files. She went to his apartment, but she didn't cross any lines. She went there to beg him to give her the files, not to seduce him or be physically intimate with him. She did everything within her power to get the files short of crossing lines, which is exactly what she would've done if they hadn't slept together.
As an aside, thanks for discussing this with me! I think that's why I like this drama so much. I love seeing what everyone is taking away from the interactions and character motivations.
But allow me to remind you of what he's said (his words).
The scene in episode 9 when he pulls her away from the celebration, some of his dialogue while he keeps crowding her space.:
"I supported your work too. How come you've never shown me any gratitude?" <-- this is false and manipulative, especially since she's a junior employee; she's always saying thank you and offered to take him out to dinner; she shows gratitude ALL THE TIME. He's trying to make her feel uncomfortable.
He puts the medal around her neck then says, "Let it be a reminder to stop running away (from me)."
She takes ANOTHER step away (from her boss) and communicates the following: "Running away keeps me safe." So all y'all who are accusing her of expecting him to be a mind-reader, y'all need to stop. She is communicating clearly here what her fear(s) are (and they're 100% valid). He knows this means: "My dude. You're my boss. If you keep doing this, I'm the one who is going to suffer. You'll be fine, but I'll be fired. I don't feel safe with you." She goes on to say/spell out, "We are different; I have to be strategic and think ahead (about my career)."
AGAIN he invades her space and says, "Do accidents fit into your plans, too?" So he disregards her VOCALIZED concerns about her own safety and basically taunts her for sleeping with him in the past. (Very mature...) Then he calls her "Heartless." (More manipulation). "You clearly like me, but keep holding back. Isn't that exhausting." So, once again disregarding her concerns about her safety. (Selfish)
She says, "I can't lose my job. The company doesn't allow office romances." So, again she expresses her concerns. If you're counting, this is the third time.
Also, if you're counting, during the first episode, he's the one who insisted "no office romances" be added as an HR policy. Thus, he's one of those dudes who follows the rules unless they're inconvenient to him (selfish and hypocritical).
Seeing that he can't manipulate her in this way (since office romances aren't allowed per his order, and therefore she has a point other than "I don't feel safe with you, I'm scared of losing my job" both of which he's ignored so far) he changes his approach: "If that bothers you, we can keep our relationship private. Dating is too much trouble (for me). And I can't be bothered to maintain a romantic relationship. If you're willing, we can keep this between us. If it works, we continue. If it doesn't, we end it. If either of us wans to date or sleep with someone else, we tell the other person honestly and end what we have."
She says, "Okay. But we have to be exclusive."
In summary, I love Luke. I do. But he is a real arrogant POS. And Flora's biggest flaw right now is trusting this hot a-hole who has been using his position of power to push her into a relationship she's been trying to avoid. Does that make her a pushover? A little. It definitely makes her incredibly naive to think he has her best interests at heart. He definitely does not.
She's also a lot younger and more inexperienced than him (she's had one boyfriend, he's had A LOT of relationships). Regarding power dynamics, he holds all the power and she holds none. He's a man (and therefore always believed by society until proven guilty) and she's a woman (and therefore never believed by society until proven innocent). She's scared of losing her job.
And she's extremely attracted to him, respects and likes him as a person, doesn't know if she can trust him, worries she's not enough/not worthy of his higher status (not just at work, but also due to his wealthy background/parents).
I mean... you expect her to be savvy and shrewd, yet she was raised middle-class and sheltered. If anything, it seems like you want HER to be the mind-reader here.
The storyline is fine (nothing special / fairly common) but the romance does feel very flat. I do love Hou Ming Hao and Ai Mi, though. They're both great, but this drama is very *meh*.
omg his mom cracked me up.
"Weird personality" (≧▽≦)