I disagree much more than I agree, but I totally see your points, and understand them. I agree that S1 was probably better, and prior to Beach was better, but the Beach section was also very good. I think S2 was little bit uneven sometimes. I think the "Crossbow" girl wasn't needed at all. I wish we spent more time with our established characters. I also must say that I was annoyed when she didn't die despite taking so many bullets, but the final reveal put it in context. I quite liked the reveal. I mean it is a Sci-fi, so it was plausauble enough. But, overall, it was still very good and thrilling. It is nice though to hear different opinion.
Questions about Episode 1 I have already complained about this issue in Part 1, then got over it. But, now this part started, and it is bugging me again. But, I want to ask just in case I missed something. At the end os Part 1 we established that Jung So-Min had the body of Bu-yeon and the soul of Naksu. Then she went into the lake. We are told that they fished out the body. I can accept that Naksu's soul is somewhere, but the body is the same. Ok, they changed the actress, but it is still Bu-yeon body. If Jung So-Min had continued then we would be seeing her. What puzzles me is how can Jang Uk not recognise that body?? (or that lady in the guest house for that matter) I mean this new actress was even immitating the speech and manners of Jung So-Min ( I even half expected her to try and hang to the bridge lol). I am not even Korean, nor I speak the language, but it was still obvious to me. I am sure it is deliberate. They are basically implying that Naksu is somewhere there. I can get people missing the personality, but the body??
Am I missing something? or I just need to roll with it?
I have watched the original French series, which was absolutely fantastic. I didn't even bother with English version. France & England do have cultural differences, but not enough to warrant a remake. Also, the French series finished very recently. I am, however, intriguied by a Korean one. I don't know how things are done behind the scene in Korea, and there is probably a real cultural difference (although people are roughly the same everywhere). My question: If you have watched the original French. Is it worth to give this a chance?
I agree. First lets change the title. Totally misleading. I would totally cut the little sister (and her friend). I would also dispose of this entire Vietnam thing. Replace it with something simpler. As you said, the cast is excellent, and the spine of the story is good.
God! These last 2 episodes defied ALL logic! The show had lots of strong points. Acting, good build of mystery, and some really good tense moments. However, I felt 12 episodes were too much. This should have been 8, maybe 10 episodes at most. The writing is very loose, and has some serious logic issues. It always veer towards style and sacrifice logic. But, despite all criticism, I had pleasant time. For me it is 7/10.
r u serious injoo like you KNOW that the orchid is fcked up and has hallucinogenic properties couldn't you have…
I have already complained about this specific point about the orchid. I am 100% convinced she is not the one who killed her aunt, but all these plot conveniences are starting to really annoy me. E6 lost the series at least one star for me.
Quick opinion on the the 3 sisters at mid point: In Joo: the worst from writing pov. Her behaviour is inconsistent, and she seems to be a walking plot conveniences. I do have sympathy with her character as a person though. She is in a very tough spot. And, although irrelevant to the drama itself, MY GOD! Kim Go Eun is VERY beautiful.
In Kyung; She is probably the best character. She is consistent. Her actions make sense, regardless whether you agree or not with her, and she is fighting a good fight.
In Hye: maybe unpopular opinion, but I also think she is consistent, and her behaviour makes sense and in line with her motives. She is very annoying and ungrateful to her sisters, but she is good as a believable character.
I have a feeling that the writer just sacrificed the eldest sister believability for plot purposes.
Hmm. This is starting to resemble a Harlan Coben mystery. You start with the present, and it all ends up with some very old story in the past. I must say that I am starting to get annoyed though. In Joo behaviour is very inconsistent. On one hand she is plotting and scheming to take them down and fully aware of the orchid role. On the other hand she takes the orchid and inhale it fully knowing its properties on top of the fact that it was given to her by a suspecious person. That just doesn't make sense. This is another plot convenience. In Joo didn't kill her aunt. I am pretty sure it was someone else, and she was just sleep walking. This orchid starting to resemble magic now lol. At least there are only 6 more episodes, so I can hold on, but for me the show is getting worse.
Sorry to go on a tangent, but if you liked the movie The Handmaiden( Personally I liked it a lot. I watched in Cinema), then try to catch the 2005 BBC mini-series (3 episodes) Fingersmith, which is the adaptation of the book (awsome book, but if you know the events it takes away a lot of it). The Handmaiden movie is not an identical adaptation of the book, so the BBC series will still be worth watching if you have access.
I don't know why but this is what i thought since ep1 after they showed Hwa Young's death. I think she is not…
I also think there is a very high chance that she is not dead. Your second point is the strongest argument. But, even though I will not be surprised if she is alive, I will be disappointed.
Kim GoEun herself call her character an idiot who can go to the extreme to protect her sisters. Injoo would have…
Hmm. I still think there are better places to hide the money, but tbh it is not something I want to keep debating. However, you make an excellent point about the apartment and her plan to give it to her Aunt. I fully agree with you on that front.
Kim GoEun herself call her character an idiot who can go to the extreme to protect her sisters. Injoo would have…
I never had so much money in my life (even when I convert that to Pounds) lol, so I don't have ready answers. Also, I don't know Korea. But, there are other places where you can get safety boxes. You can even buy your own safe. And even if you are going to leave them in a Yoga/Gym. At the very least, leave it in a different one.
Kim GoEun herself call her character an idiot who can go to the extreme to protect her sisters. Injoo would have…
I don't think her character is badly written. And I don't want her to be badass. I actually like how characters are written. There is a good deal of reality to them. However, I think her carrying the money around was just a plot convenience for her to be caught early on. She might not be a badass, but she is not totally stupid, and I think Choi has already told her what to do with the money. There are other things like that, but, as I said, I am happy to go with it. They are not very convincing, but they have a degree of plausibility. I don't look for water tight plots in these type of shows. I think the show is doing many good things, and the acting is very good. It is enjoyable, so I am happy to let few things slide.
Totally random. Gong Min Jung (the rival reporter) was such a sweet and supportive friend in Hometown Cha Cha Cha. She is not quite evil, but not nice and manipulative here.
Kim GoEun herself call her character an idiot who can go to the extreme to protect her sisters. Injoo would have…
Love your comment about Squid Game. Hahaha I must say that moving money around in backpack or leaving them in Yoga club is very very dumb. I think this is the writer's fault. But, this is a show that one has to be little bit tolerant to enjoy. To be fair, most shows of similar nature (no matter the country) have similar plot holes.
Wong Sang A is actually Hwa Young who had major plastic surgery. She said she wanna have a perfect face. And the…
That is wild! lol I don't dismiss that Hwa Young might still be alive (I would be rather disappointed if this happens), but it doesn't make sense that she is the mother.
I agree that S1 was probably better, and prior to Beach was better, but the Beach section was also very good.
I think S2 was little bit uneven sometimes. I think the "Crossbow" girl wasn't needed at all. I wish we spent more time with our established characters.
I also must say that I was annoyed when she didn't die despite taking so many bullets, but the final reveal put it in context.
I quite liked the reveal. I mean it is a Sci-fi, so it was plausauble enough.
But, overall, it was still very good and thrilling.
It is nice though to hear different opinion.
I have already complained about this issue in Part 1, then got over it. But, now this part started, and it is bugging me again.
But, I want to ask just in case I missed something.
At the end os Part 1 we established that Jung So-Min had the body of Bu-yeon and the soul of Naksu. Then she went into the lake.
We are told that they fished out the body. I can accept that Naksu's soul is somewhere, but the body is the same. Ok, they changed the actress, but it is still Bu-yeon body. If Jung So-Min had continued then we would be seeing her.
What puzzles me is how can Jang Uk not recognise that body?? (or that lady in the guest house for that matter)
I mean this new actress was even immitating the speech and manners of Jung So-Min ( I even half expected her to try and hang to the bridge lol). I am not even Korean, nor I speak the language, but it was still obvious to me. I am sure it is deliberate. They are basically implying that Naksu is somewhere there. I can get people missing the personality, but the body??
Am I missing something? or I just need to roll with it?
I am, however, intriguied by a Korean one. I don't know how things are done behind the scene in Korea, and there is probably a real cultural difference (although people are roughly the same everywhere).
My question: If you have watched the original French. Is it worth to give this a chance?
First lets change the title. Totally misleading.
I would totally cut the little sister (and her friend).
I would also dispose of this entire Vietnam thing. Replace it with something simpler.
As you said, the cast is excellent, and the spine of the story is good.
If you make it a movie, then you need to do a drastic cuts.
It could turn out to be a very good movie though.
But is it good? hmm. You need to set logic aside, and ignore your brain when it starts complaining lol.
The show had lots of strong points. Acting, good build of mystery, and some really good tense moments.
However, I felt 12 episodes were too much. This should have been 8, maybe 10 episodes at most. The writing is very loose, and has some serious logic issues. It always veer towards style and sacrifice logic.
But, despite all criticism, I had pleasant time. For me it is 7/10.
I am 100% convinced she is not the one who killed her aunt, but all these plot conveniences are starting to really annoy me. E6 lost the series at least one star for me.
In Joo: the worst from writing pov. Her behaviour is inconsistent, and she seems to be a walking plot conveniences. I do have sympathy with her character as a person though. She is in a very tough spot. And, although irrelevant to the drama itself, MY GOD! Kim Go Eun is VERY beautiful.
In Kyung; She is probably the best character. She is consistent. Her actions make sense, regardless whether you agree or not with her, and she is fighting a good fight.
In Hye: maybe unpopular opinion, but I also think she is consistent, and her behaviour makes sense and in line with her motives. She is very annoying and ungrateful to her sisters, but she is good as a believable character.
I have a feeling that the writer just sacrificed the eldest sister believability for plot purposes.
This is starting to resemble a Harlan Coben mystery. You start with the present, and it all ends up with some very old story in the past.
I must say that I am starting to get annoyed though.
In Joo behaviour is very inconsistent. On one hand she is plotting and scheming to take them down and fully aware of the orchid role. On the other hand she takes the orchid and inhale it fully knowing its properties on top of the fact that it was given to her by a suspecious person.
That just doesn't make sense.
This is another plot convenience. In Joo didn't kill her aunt. I am pretty sure it was someone else, and she was just sleep walking.
This orchid starting to resemble magic now lol.
At least there are only 6 more episodes, so I can hold on, but for me the show is getting worse.
The Handmaiden movie is not an identical adaptation of the book, so the BBC series will still be worth watching if you have access.
But, even though I will not be surprised if she is alive, I will be disappointed.
I still think there are better places to hide the money, but tbh it is not something I want to keep debating.
However, you make an excellent point about the apartment and her plan to give it to her Aunt. I fully agree with you on that front.
However, I think her carrying the money around was just a plot convenience for her to be caught early on. She might not be a badass, but she is not totally stupid, and I think Choi has already told her what to do with the money.
There are other things like that, but, as I said, I am happy to go with it. They are not very convincing, but they have a degree of plausibility.
I don't look for water tight plots in these type of shows. I think the show is doing many good things, and the acting is very good. It is enjoyable, so I am happy to let few things slide.
Gong Min Jung (the rival reporter) was such a sweet and supportive friend in Hometown Cha Cha Cha. She is not quite evil, but not nice and manipulative here.
I must say that moving money around in backpack or leaving them in Yoga club is very very dumb. I think this is the writer's fault. But, this is a show that one has to be little bit tolerant to enjoy. To be fair, most shows of similar nature (no matter the country) have similar plot holes.
I don't dismiss that Hwa Young might still be alive (I would be rather disappointed if this happens), but it doesn't make sense that she is the mother.