I don’t think viki has the latest updated version(s). The updated versions are Youku’s continuing response to fans’ reception/feedback and probably also cos the series is now “safe” from being chopped by censors. For eg they are adding shots which show more intimacy to the delight of fans. You can check by comparing ep 20 on viki and yt. You will notice there is a small but very significant extended shot of ZZS and WKX in the Yt version in the cave scene. Youku also released a special version of ep 6 with an extra scene recently that was not seen by any audiences in or outside China previously. It was an Easter egg reward/commemoration for reaching 2 million subscribers on Youku yt. Viki probably can’t show the new version(s) because with WOH, post production never ends. They are still re-editing episodes and there was discussion just a few days ago about how they have removed another scene in response to fans’ criticism. They had also previously re-edited ep 14 after it aired in China and redubbed some scenes as well. I believe they may even give us a complete ending in ep 36 without the need for the bonus clip or ep 37. It is quite unprecedented. The series is basically evolving as I type this.
Both GJ and ZZH's new upcoming dramas are by Youku (Flaming Heart and Retro Detective). Youku really hit it big…
Ummm hmmm, looks like they have some lucky stars in their corner this year. Hope they will now look into building an international platform for their dramas.
For me it does rank as one of the top wuxia dramas in recent years. I read on twitter someone's list of wuxia…
IKR, I think ZZH is really cool IRL - from the bits and pieces that have subs on youtube I gather his injury a few years ago must have been very serious cos he apparently can't play basketball any more and had to switch to golf. But he just talks about it as a life experience and then moves on - very resilient.
For me it does rank as one of the top wuxia dramas in recent years. I read on twitter someone's list of wuxia…
Can't find the link now - it was an old interview. I think if I'm not mistaken the host asked: "A friend says to you "Let's date." What will you say?" ZZH: "Man or woman?" Host: "??? No limitation." ZZH: "Seems unlikely, but if I like them I will go out with them."
For me it does rank as one of the top wuxia dramas in recent years. I read on twitter someone's list of wuxia…
Anything they promote right now will fly off the shelves - I mean someone actually coughed up 30,000 USD for WKX's costume. Have you come across that interview too where ZZH basically implies he's ok dating either man or woman as long as he likes them? Way cool............
For me it does rank as one of the top wuxia dramas in recent years. I read on twitter someone's list of wuxia…
He truly does! Ayyy I look forward to the day when we can go beyond binary gender roles and assumptions..........although I think ZZH/GJ already managed to do that in their Tom Ford lipstick shots :)
For me it does rank as one of the top wuxia dramas in recent years. I read on twitter someone's list of wuxia…
Yeah, it's a pity we still have to find ways to compartmentalize them when really doesn't framing a wuxia story with BL liberate us from that? We hardly ever see a true relationship of equals in a traditional wuxia drama (or at least in recently-produced wuxia dramas) - just because it is set in ancient China, the male/female stereotypes still have to play out with all its implied restrictions - ie woman can never be too forward, bold etc even if she can kick ass or she risks being condemned at some point and/or she can kick ass but still reverts to some stereotype of femininity in the end. So instead we find the equality we want as modern audiences in a couple like ZZS/WKX - neither of them has to take shit from anyone or each other because of their gender. The point is not to view everything in binary way or to put people in neat little boxes - but we don't really have the mainstream language/vocabulary to do that yet either.
I was going to reply to someone about the classic romantic wuxai trope I pick up and I thought there were only…
For me it does rank as one of the top wuxia dramas in recent years. I read on twitter someone's list of wuxia elements as well and there are many - not surprising cos of the source material and the screenwriter is hardcore wuxia fan. Interestingly it's been pointed out both by that commentator as well as ZZH that in a typical wuxia CL would be the main focus since he fits in with the kid whose family is wronged/killed and has to go through many trials to attain martial arts and get revenge............ For me, ZZS has from the beginning always exuded more of a "masculine" vibe than WKX so I still really don't see him as a "wife", but also in a relationship of equals, am not particularly interested in whether one has to be the wife or the other the husband.
I read that the show has a special episode. Is the final episode, this special episode? The special episode is…
Since Youku's post production is neverending, I wouldn't be surprised if they gave us a complete ending in the YT version of ep 36 ie without the need for the bonus clip...........you can also find more info in the ongoing discussion about the ending in Recent Discussions above.
yes, but censored.... a bit? there are hugs, holding hands, stares, many more
Cenosred? Not at all. Perhaps the more appropriate description would be "with restrictions" but then those restrictions apply to all c-dramas particularly costume dramas produced in mainland China.
This drama was not censored and does not hide its BL theme. Yes, some of the scenes were reshot before being sent to censors but essentially what you see on screen is what they sent to the censors. Note also the actual hidden lines under the overdubbing which have been decoded by avid netizens and which have content which would probably not even have passed censorship in a BG drama. (The actual lines have been analysed by Chinese star news, Avenue x etc etc. I think fans may even have redubbbed them. Can find most of these on YouTube. The most important point here is that the production team obviously wanted them to be decoded since they a) went ahead with filming the original lines and b) give us shots of their mouths as they say them hence enabling lip-reading). Note also the many gay/romantic couple references which are in plain sight, for eg the scene with the shaobings in ep 2, the cut sleeves not once but twice, the wedding rituals etc etc. (Again much analysis has already been done on YT and soc media.) Not only wasn't it censored, Youku is now adding in small but oh so significant scenes between ZZS & WKX in their just released YouTube versions which emphasize their intimacy. For eg Ep 6 special version - not seen by original audience in China, or indeed original audiences anywhere. And Ep 20 YT version - also not seen by the original or I should rather say, advance, audiences. This makes it the most exciting, evolving, neverending post post post production ever, which is why many of us early fans are still rewatching avidly. Youku is also releasing all the BTS so you can see some of the scenes that were reshot.
Totally. Inasmuch as can be shown in a period drama produced in mainland China. All the evidence and clues are there and not very hidden either - even straight Chinese/Western men get it immediately (see twitter/bilibili). See my further comment in spoiler below.
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Viki probably can’t show the new version(s) because with WOH, post production never ends. They are still re-editing episodes and there was discussion just a few days ago about how they have removed another scene in response to fans’ criticism. They had also previously re-edited ep 14 after it aired in China and redubbed some scenes as well. I believe they may even give us a complete ending in ep 36 without the need for the bonus clip or ep 37. It is quite unprecedented. The series is basically evolving as I type this.
"A friend says to you "Let's date." What will you say?"
ZZH: "Man or woman?"
Host: "??? No limitation."
ZZH: "Seems unlikely, but if I like them I will go out with them."
Have you come across that interview too where ZZH basically implies he's ok dating either man or woman as long as he likes them? Way cool............
For me, ZZS has from the beginning always exuded more of a "masculine" vibe than WKX so I still really don't see him as a "wife", but also in a relationship of equals, am not particularly interested in whether one has to be the wife or the other the husband.
Note also the actual hidden lines under the overdubbing which have been decoded by avid netizens and which have content which would probably not even have passed censorship in a BG drama. (The actual lines have been analysed by Chinese star news, Avenue x etc etc. I think fans may even have redubbbed them. Can find most of these on YouTube. The most important point here is that the production team obviously wanted them to be decoded since they a) went ahead with filming the original lines and b) give us shots of their mouths as they say them hence enabling lip-reading).
Note also the many gay/romantic couple references which are in plain sight, for eg the scene with the shaobings in ep 2, the cut sleeves not once but twice, the wedding rituals etc etc. (Again much analysis has already been done on YT and soc media.)
Not only wasn't it censored, Youku is now adding in small but oh so significant scenes between ZZS & WKX in their just released YouTube versions which emphasize their intimacy. For eg Ep 6 special version - not seen by original audience in China, or indeed original audiences anywhere. And Ep 20 YT version - also not seen by the original or I should rather say, advance, audiences. This makes it the most exciting, evolving, neverending post post post production ever, which is why many of us early fans are still rewatching avidly. Youku is also releasing all the BTS so you can see some of the scenes that were reshot.