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i don't think they are expecting viewers to accept it? keeping in controversial things could give more depth to the character, it make sense for her. which is why i explained it.

> 15 years differences are usually too much for me, and i don't like the pairing, but that doesn't mean she should choose xhz. If anything, i think Yang Ke or Li Yifan would be ok choice for her.

I didn't like any of the boyfriends to be honest. WYZ is most likeable on paper but in practice, he's still only so so to me. XHZ is odd, Dong Zi Jian really wouldn't be my choice for the character and I didn't think he could work with Ni Ni, but he does! and he made a rather average character on paper very charming. I just wish he was actually independent like suosuo wants.

big same on ye jin yan, and LOL i know that drama, i was like noooo. I think they wanted to keep some of the stuff from original novel and it'd be controversial, but i don't think they worked it too well. chen dao ming looked too old here, what with tan skin + white hair + terrible wardrobe choice that people keep speculating that he's doing it on purpose to play up the age difference to discourage him as a choice, because he CAN look much better. or he just liked playing golf too much without putting on enough sunscreen mhm. XD

i mostly wish she just focused on her career. career that should have be written better skhfsdkfhsjk. big sigh.

you are entirely correct that it could go either way, there's been spoilers of future ep on cnet though (from newspapers about tv programs, because this airs on cctv 8, so there's ep synopsis for the upcoming week), which is why i'm fairly certain about general trajectory. She went oversea but her potential husband is WYZ's cousin or something i think.

The leaving her kid with Nansun thing is an option that was bought up in the novel as well. Considering it's set in modern times, I think it's much more likely she'll stay and raise the child with Nansun's help.

I think Liu Shishi fits her role pretty well here tbh? Her arc is also better written, writing wise because it's the core plot of the novel, while Ni Ni's is mostly original, so sometimes it's pretty fun, sometimes it's are you kidding me?

xie hong zu is momma's boy. he's not independent at all, if she married him, she'd have to deal with a mother-in-law that really dislikes her, and also look down on her. a lot of your usual rich mum tropes, except the novel predates most of those dramas. the drama specifically mention that she wants to marry for love, he's great and all but she just doesn't love him. that said, she has shared some bonding moments with him and it's not hard to see with time, she might come around. she genuinely like him as a friend and want him to do well and be independent.

as for controversial ye jin yan. in the novel, he's married, and she was having an affair with him. he definitely liked her, like her enough to give her money and affection, but not enough to divorce. they changed it in the drama so he's single, it's little unclear if he likes her. you could make argument that he treats her like a daughter (which would make a lot of dumb shit suosuo does and ye jin yan just let her make sense), or that he do like her but he's too aware of the age difference.

as for why she likes him. she has daddy issues, is anyone surprised? she lacked parental care and really want affection from father figure. so her choice in men leans that way too. in the drama, i think it's partially because some people around her hint that he likes her, so she start paying attention, and he always came when she most needed it, so she started becoming infatuated. her taste in men lean towards mature men that have their own careers. they might not have to be rich, but that'd be a bonus.

note that it's not about money in the drama (in the novel, money plays a much bigger role because it was written in the 80s and set in hk, different times), the drama specifically changed her character so that while she wants a lot of money, it's not the only thing that matters to her (she broke up with mr. ma because he lied to her and embezzled money to create false hope, NOT because he's just a driver. although you could argue if he was a driver to start with, she wouldn't have liked him).

it's because she wanted a home, that's her dream and he offered that to her. she was also in much more precarious situation at the time, she felt deeply uncomfortable at her uncle's, because there were always bit of distance from them, and they were really intent on marrying her off to someone she didn't like.

as for her two other love interest

people wondering why suosuo liked mr. ma & other love interest

The novel itself is a happy ending, she dies in the epilogue which is several years later. she dies very young so that's why it's sad ending.

you remembered wrong, her daughter is with xie hong zu. the wedding in the trailer is with him too.

it's an adaptation of a novel, the movie is very loose adaptation of the novel and changed a lot of the novel LOL.

????? where are you getting this from? i don't think so?

It's not! don't worry.

english names for cdramas can be facepalmy generic, I forget the names of cdramas a lot since they blur together after awhile. I don't have vip for this so I'll be behind, but I have magical powers from reading the novel! which I only remember bits of, and not sure if they'll change much but we'll see.

yeah their characters are fairly straightforward, but it's more his looks? his aura doesn't fit what i think his role should be. I think he fits his role in my best friend's story lot better. oh well.

I don't know if it is! It's just not what most people would translate the title as (I think it's the novel title 帝王业?) It could be a very cleverly translated title which I can appreciate, since it fits the story rather well. Emperor Phoenix is from 帝凰业, then changed it to 江山故人 then Ode to Shangyang is 上阳赋.

I'm not overly bothered by the age if the plot doesn't keep mentioning it. Even if they do, she looks better than Qin Dynasty Epic's protag so i'll live.

I kind of wish Yang You Ning (the actor's name) wasn't here.....He really doesn't fit the role here omg.... and I think his acting is only okay. He has three drama airing at the moment so it's a lot.

hahahah you are so right, she's Leia, I want this crossover. every other name is better than this one.

rebel princess just sounds really weird and generic to me lol. oh well i don't know what i'm expecting from cdramas english title. where it's all "love this' "princess that". Monarch Industry would have worked too, even if it's technically kind of machine translated, but it sticks out!

she has the skin filter on lol, but it's not always on. i'm not sure why she picked this book since she's not within age range of the character at all, but it's fine, dramas do this all the time. The novel is fairly decent, but definitely doesn't last 68 ep, so i'm curious how they'll expand it, drama this long usually suffer from pacing issue so hope it'll do ok there.

wait wait what's with this new name, what's wrong with ode to shangyang? she's not a rebel princess XD