Those of you who have already checked the ending of the final episode, please write how it ends. I’ll die of curiosity before the evening. Just one request — no jokes or teasing, please.
Do you think they should have re-edited this drama? I don’t think they would have done it anyway, because they…
There are many things I don’t understand about the Chinese drama industry. But I want to say that I personally like the plot. I’m tired of super-smart heroines with superpowers and the ability to foresee everything. Cangcang’s naivety, which gradually transforms into cunning and analytical thinking, is exactly what I enjoy. So I repeat: if they had edited the story better, the drama wouldn’t have received so much hate. Despite everything, I keep watching and enjoy every episode.
I've been nervous about this drama for 2 years ever since it was announced back then. Why nervous? Since its Huanrui's…
Do you think they should have re-edited this drama? I don’t think they would have done it anyway, because they knew Jialun was unlikely to promote it due to the past coercion. And they weren’t really betting on Xiaozhan either. So they left everything as it was. I think if the editing had been a bit smoother, the plot would have been easier for many people to accept. But it is what it is. Still, I’m horrified when I look at Fate Choose You, even though a different team worked on it.
You can't critisize a single thing on mdl without ppl calling it hate and harassment. Mind you the hatred and…
Accusations must be backed by evidence. I’m not interested in empty talk. Let me remind you that Ren Jialun has already won a defamation lawsuit, and the person who slandered him was punished — not just banned on social media. I hope Xiaoran will follow the same path and legally punish those who insult her, both as a professional and as a person.
I’ve already written here more than once that I like the drama. Of course, it has its flaws, like any project. But for me, they are not critical, so I simply enjoy watching it. I believe that both lead actors portrayed their very different yet interesting characters wonderfully.
I completely agree with Peng Xiaoran that right now the entire production team is in the same boat, and they should unite rather than start conflicts.
The original novel’s author may be unhappy with the adaptation of her work, but let me remind you that her text has been edited so many times that it’s hard to even count. Still, it’s her right to express her opinion, so that’s fine with me.
What isn’t fine is the hate that is now being directed at the actors. People are starting to look for someone to blame. That’s normal for the Weibo community, but why copy them? For what purpose?
I read comments on different platforms. Some people don’t like Ren Jialun, some don’t like Peng Xiaoran, some don’t like a third actor. But why escalate everything into hate and harassment?
It is possible to criticize something you like. I never understand how ppl feel like you can't and if you have…
I agree with you. You can enjoy watching a drama and still see its flaws. But here I see almost constant negativity and even direct insults toward the actors and members of the production team. I also see shortcomings in the script, and I don’t really like some decisions made by the costume designers or makeup artists. And of course I can mention this in my own post, just like anyone else. But at the same time, I will also write about what I like. Because when a post is purely negative, how can one understand that the author actually likes the project overall?
I would also like to point out that the original title of the project is “Ascending the Phoenix Tower.” Ascending means a path and a process. And the main characters are climbing that tower each in their own way, trying to understand each other.
But here it seems like people want the characters to reach mutual understanding from the very first minutes of the series, and then the emperor and empress would fight everyone together. But there are already plenty of dramas like that. This one is about something else. If overall it doesn’t appeal to you, why stay and write nasty things? That’s what I mean.
Yup I don’t waste my time on a drama I don’t like or have only negativity .
Same for me. If I don’t like a drama, I can say what I didn’t like and then leave. I don’t even give it a rating, because how can you judge a work when you’ve only seen part of it? But under this drama there is so much condemnation, malice, and hatred that it’s scary to open the comments. Okay, you don’t like the show — but why pour out all that negativity?
I still don’t understand why people who dislike everything in this drama keep watching it. You seem to know better what others should feel/do/film/write/act/wear, etc. I’m not asking about the masterpieces you’ve written, filmed, or created. I’m only interested in two questions:
Why are you still here?
Why, despite the low rating and the hate pouring like a raging river, are more and more people coming to watch this drama?
The FL’s growth is actually quite good — she’s gone from a spoiled, naïve girl to an empress. But even…
That’s exactly the problem — she never lived among palace intrigues. She lived freely, under the guidance of her mentor and her father. She has no experience with schemes; she trusts the people she has known for many years, the ones who always supported her. And then suddenly this man appears — first he kills her mentor without any explanation, then forces her to marry him, then brings her a wedding ‘gift’. Where is the foundation for trust in all this? The emperor should have gradually opened her eyes, not stayed silent. But he has his own reasons.
I just want people to understand: this is not a sweet fairytale about love. It’s a harsh story about life in the palace, and about what power and intrigue do to people — or destroy in them. And there’s no one to judge here. Not a single character.
If someone doesn’t like the story — that’s fine. There are plenty of other dramas. But I don’t understand why spread toxicity here.
The FL’s growth is actually quite good — she’s gone from a spoiled, naïve girl to an empress. But even…
The drama isn’t even over yet. And remember Dark River. Prince Lanyan also had a wife who left both her husband and child to go wandering because she didn’t want to deal with all the palace schemes. Cangcang is from the same mold.
I’m truly enjoying every episode. At last, I’m seeing characters who actually transform throughout the drama. Cang Cang is changing from a naïve girl into a woman who begins to understand that this world isn’t simply black and white. There are halftones, quarter-tones. It’s hard for her to grasp and accept this. She keeps clinging to the people she cherishes, not realizing that each of them wants to use her in their own way. But this clinging is also part of her transformation.
Xiao Huan, too, is learning that control and love are not the same thing. That no amount of affection or jewels can replace freedom. As they say: if you desire someone—let him/her go; if him/her return, they’re yours, if not—they never were.
I also like the prince and Zhong Lin. I’m curious what the young Mentor will do and what role the new characters will play.
And I’m glad that those who dislike the drama are finally leaving the title and the comment sections. Maybe now there will be a little less sarcasm and outright negativity.
can you elaborate about the pear blossoms motif? what does it mean? and I agree with your comment. people like…
Pear blossoms in Chinese culture are among the most poetic symbols, combining purity, fragility, and a quiet sense of tragedy. Their white color embodies innocence, inner nobility, and a restrained, almost cold beauty that seems detached from the world. Because these flowers bloom early in the cold of spring, they symbolize strength — the ability to remain pure even in harsh conditions — yet also loneliness, as such beauty exists apart from others.
One of the most famous expressions is **“梨花带雨” — “pear blossoms in the rain”**, used to describe a woman in tears. It does not convey despair, but a gentle, deep sorrow — a soft ache that makes the character even more delicate. For this reason, pear blossoms are often associated with tragic heroines: pure and kind, yet destined for suffering or solitude. Their quickly falling petals evoke the transience of youth, the fragility of happiness, and the impossibility of holding onto what is dear.
In Tang and Song dynasty poetry, pear blossoms were frequently used to depict women with refined yet sorrowful fates. The image highlighted not only beauty, but also inner bitterness, memories, loss, and a pure love that could never be fulfilled. Thus, the pear blossom became a symbol of the ideal yet unattainable woman — of quiet pain and delicate, luminous tenderness that always borders on tragedy.
It’s very strange to read people criticizing the heroine’s personality. She has spent her entire life in a world where everyone loved and protected her — her father, her mentor, her brother. Why on earth should she suddenly abandon years of absolute trust in the closest people and start suspecting them? What reason would she have? *We* know what happens behind the scenes — she doesn’t.
Cangcang is only just beginning to face problems that can’t be solved by simply stealing a few paintings from her father. She’s starting to fight for her own place in the world. And despite her naivety, she hasn’t done a single stupid or illogical thing. She’s suffering because the man she fell in love with has turned into a monster in her eyes; she’s left alone in the palace, and on top of that, she’s under constant pressure to produce an heir.
I understand that not everyone likes this type of heroine. But so many dramas are coming out now — the choice is huge. From all those “female generals” and “great romances” released in summer and autumn, I couldn’t get past episode 10 in any of them. They show 20-year-old characters who supposedly know everything and can do everything, yet still make decisions that completely contradict their backgrounds.
Many people complain about the filming style or pick on the makeup. Yet no one has pointed out that the drama uses the symbolism of pear blossoms as a central motif. And if you look into that symbolism, the heroine’s personality becomes much easier to understand.
Who cares about some subtitles. Money is what matters. It’s a pity there isn’t massive backlash in China and people aren’t unsubscribing from the platform. Maybe then we would have seen that open ending.
The platform doesn’t care about people’s reactions to the ending. What matters to them is that all the advertising slots were bought. That’s what they chose to brag about.
I’ll die of curiosity before the evening.
Just one request — no jokes or teasing, please.
So I repeat: if they had edited the story better, the drama wouldn’t have received so much hate. Despite everything, I keep watching and enjoy every episode.
I think if the editing had been a bit smoother, the plot would have been easier for many people to accept. But it is what it is.
Still, I’m horrified when I look at Fate Choose You, even though a different team worked on it.
Now my feed looks completely different))
This is where my conversation with you ends.
I believe that both lead actors portrayed their very different yet interesting characters wonderfully.
I completely agree with Peng Xiaoran that right now the entire production team is in the same boat, and they should unite rather than start conflicts.
The original novel’s author may be unhappy with the adaptation of her work, but let me remind you that her text has been edited so many times that it’s hard to even count. Still, it’s her right to express her opinion, so that’s fine with me.
What isn’t fine is the hate that is now being directed at the actors. People are starting to look for someone to blame. That’s normal for the Weibo community, but why copy them? For what purpose?
I read comments on different platforms. Some people don’t like Ren Jialun, some don’t like Peng Xiaoran, some don’t like a third actor. But why escalate everything into hate and harassment?
But here I see almost constant negativity and even direct insults toward the actors and members of the production team.
I also see shortcomings in the script, and I don’t really like some decisions made by the costume designers or makeup artists. And of course I can mention this in my own post, just like anyone else. But at the same time, I will also write about what I like. Because when a post is purely negative, how can one understand that the author actually likes the project overall?
I would also like to point out that the original title of the project is “Ascending the Phoenix Tower.” Ascending means a path and a process. And the main characters are climbing that tower each in their own way, trying to understand each other.
But here it seems like people want the characters to reach mutual understanding from the very first minutes of the series, and then the emperor and empress would fight everyone together. But there are already plenty of dramas like that. This one is about something else. If overall it doesn’t appeal to you, why stay and write nasty things? That’s what I mean.
But under this drama there is so much condemnation, malice, and hatred that it’s scary to open the comments. Okay, you don’t like the show — but why pour out all that negativity?
You seem to know better what others should feel/do/film/write/act/wear, etc. I’m not asking about the masterpieces you’ve written, filmed, or created. I’m only interested in two questions:
Why are you still here?
Why, despite the low rating and the hate pouring like a raging river, are more and more people coming to watch this drama?
The emperor should have gradually opened her eyes, not stayed silent. But he has his own reasons.
I just want people to understand: this is not a sweet fairytale about love. It’s a harsh story about life in the palace, and about what power and intrigue do to people — or destroy in them. And there’s no one to judge here. Not a single character.
If someone doesn’t like the story — that’s fine. There are plenty of other dramas. But I don’t understand why spread toxicity here.
Xiao Huan, too, is learning that control and love are not the same thing. That no amount of affection or jewels can replace freedom. As they say: if you desire someone—let him/her go; if him/her return, they’re yours, if not—they never were.
I also like the prince and Zhong Lin. I’m curious what the young Mentor will do and what role the new characters will play.
And I’m glad that those who dislike the drama are finally leaving the title and the comment sections. Maybe now there will be a little less sarcasm and outright negativity.
One of the most famous expressions is **“梨花带雨” — “pear blossoms in the rain”**, used to describe a woman in tears. It does not convey despair, but a gentle, deep sorrow — a soft ache that makes the character even more delicate. For this reason, pear blossoms are often associated with tragic heroines: pure and kind, yet destined for suffering or solitude. Their quickly falling petals evoke the transience of youth, the fragility of happiness, and the impossibility of holding onto what is dear.
In Tang and Song dynasty poetry, pear blossoms were frequently used to depict women with refined yet sorrowful fates. The image highlighted not only beauty, but also inner bitterness, memories, loss, and a pure love that could never be fulfilled. Thus, the pear blossom became a symbol of the ideal yet unattainable woman — of quiet pain and delicate, luminous tenderness that always borders on tragedy.
Cangcang is only just beginning to face problems that can’t be solved by simply stealing a few paintings from her father. She’s starting to fight for her own place in the world. And despite her naivety, she hasn’t done a single stupid or illogical thing. She’s suffering because the man she fell in love with has turned into a monster in her eyes; she’s left alone in the palace, and on top of that, she’s under constant pressure to produce an heir.
I understand that not everyone likes this type of heroine. But so many dramas are coming out now — the choice is huge. From all those “female generals” and “great romances” released in summer and autumn, I couldn’t get past episode 10 in any of them. They show 20-year-old characters who supposedly know everything and can do everything, yet still make decisions that completely contradict their backgrounds.
Many people complain about the filming style or pick on the makeup. Yet no one has pointed out that the drama uses the symbolism of pear blossoms as a central motif. And if you look into that symbolism, the heroine’s personality becomes much easier to understand.
It’s a pity there isn’t massive backlash in China and people aren’t unsubscribing from the platform. Maybe then we would have seen that open ending.