What do you mean grooming ? Isnt she 20 when they first meet and she starts at the hotel or am i crazy? I think…
The exact specifics are not there or I missed it. But she was a teen in high school and had already been around her for awhile. That is shown by the scene with the marriage announcement. She was 19 I think~ Theres a long time familiarity sense shown by the way SML tells FL to go make up with the soon to be step mom. The step mom was running or a part of the hotelier type business with this guy which is how he was brought into the picture with the father and the FL in a much younger sense. Presented as young but much older than FL upon meeting her as a teen. That's why he was already staring and had all the longing looks whenever he came on screen. He'd already been around for a good amount of time by the time the leads met and she was 19 at that time, already talking to her, already in confidence with her, giving advice, steering her, subtly guiding her~ All that is confirmed when we found out he was the cause for her being isolated, suggested working for experience far away from dad, dad died on his watch, step mom only heard about her through him as they eventually became a couple and ran the business. Her early teen years were being groomed. And he still managed to isolate her again in the end by getting her back to the place they ran. Her decisions were almost always forced into doing things he said despite not wanting too because it always made sense in some way and it started sooooo early. She's not free of blame by any means but the dude's been running the long game and it's been working.
The wife is unbelievable and disgusting lol....... "Why did you agree to join the redevelopment group? You say you do things for us but you only ever do things for yourself." Really? Was whoring around good for the family or was it for yourself? Circumstances and individual priorities were just a TAD bit different~ We've seen the " young determination to get justice" bit too many times, so it's not bringing anything to drama, any generic filler scenes would do the same, so the police side story has no appeal whatsoever to me other than the chaos it adds~
I finally got something right. Been awhile. Absolutely called that creepy grooming shite with SC. Even now, only wants to bring up and reminisce the past 24/7. Always felt like that was the case. Crazy how he's been able to manipulate her life so well and really raises the suspicion about her father's death. Willful negligence maybe? Hard to say after the ending of #8.
TS though. He's done nothing to ever raise the possibility of doing something behind Eunas back, so I was a bit surprised at her reaction towards seeing the other girl. She, on the other hand, constantly comes off as shady from the outside looking in. If anyone was allowed to react to something like that, it was definitely him. Relationships gotta have something close to the he middle as far give and takes go. It's been pretty uneven through out the whole drama though. Poor guys had it rough. He can't keep going on like this~ And can someone plz explain the guesthouse fiasco please? I still don't quite understand what went down~
She's still absolutely suspect, no reason to turn phone off~ For God sakes lol, ML is still a stalking nosy blind fool I still can't stand who STILL shouldn't be involved and now I get to add simp to the list~ I just can't like him, if he'd been able to introduce himself and get to know her on a regular level, I wouldn't have this kind of hate. But since it stemmed from invasion and intrusion and whatnot, another car accident or 4 would be quite pleasant to behold. Or the infamous 🚛. Give into the vow and prove himself by dying for her. Yup the hate real lol. Looking forward to the next episode~
Modern day SK monarchy? Thought Eternal Monarch right away lol. But still a + on the creative side so it'll never score lower than a 7 for me since 4/5 historical pieces they make are pure Joseon and the rest are time travel/body switch/reincarnation in the past~ My curiosity is piqued, let's see how the execution goes.........along with all the pre drama hate good lord........... hasn't even started yet and ppl/bots are already engineering hate narratives 😑 Chat behave!! 😃
I personally think it’s grooming…I made a comment about how SML manipulated FL when she was having a hard…
Whew!! Solid reply. I had red flags dancing across my vision immediately upon their first time on screen together. Clearly older but NEVER took eyes off her from the start. Then it became apparent that the now stepmom was tied to him through the lodging. Maybe she wanted to separate them but might be a reach. I don't like her because of FL's clear aversion towards her in the past but hadn't exactly done anything or shown a reason for it. Need to see more.
By now the writer is not focus on us just the fact that she's always making us hate hate!! I'm going to stop coming…
I've only ever seen this author putting up articles here, sometimes multiple per day. Where is she getting this stuff from? Is it just copy/pasta from genuine sources and articles? Anything and everything from a Korean actors mothers brothers nickname in high school to a Chinese producers CEOs favorite food to eat in spring in an even number year in February on a weekday after 7pm........you get my drift lol. So many pieces sound and read like AI generated responses to random questions and I haven't been on the site long enough to differentiate fact and fiction yet~
Hate it when ppl say it has to be "realistic with rules" and order even though its theme could exist in sci-fi, fantasy, and/or supernatural world. Stories don't need to have rules and lore to be considered proper or to be successful. And I'ma say it again. It's a ghost story AND Kdrama. Expecting a realistic law and order drama is laughable when it's main theme is a body hopping ghost gag gotta catch them all team up and by some recent comments, they're peeps expecting just that~ Lol......this CLEARLY wasn't made to win awards. I knew heading into this not to expect any more than a 7 as peak~ Do I like? Ehh......no comment. Another man's trash is another man's treasure or something like that. Case in point.............my wife is a cardiologist and surgeon, and lives in a medical world that's almost the very definition of law, logic, and order. And I already know she likes this due to the very absence of those things others say are needed to be 'good'. To each their own. Go figure~
Lol......... definitely called the creepiness and the subtle but unmistakable intent of sml to pursue this girl from the start. Maybe not exactly grooming......but the romantic interest was there. Age gaps are a curious thing. Everyone has a different # deemed acceptable drama wise and IRL. Even amongst actors and co-stars playing roles ppl get psycho over..........let's save that for another time. Knew that she was going to show up unannounced and was not surprised at all~ MLs willingness to pick up where things left off was abit surprising.........but when the 20 question game started it was clear he hadn't changed~ Not breaking up in person means it wasn't done (oh really?) and there was no contact in between the years.......🤨Ehhh........this felt like an extended bout of ghost lighting. Her train of thought is something else. Flighty as f'k. (Excuse da language 😅) While this dude continues true to form and puts anything and everything when it comes to this girl above himself. It puts heavy emphasis on the fact that they're definitely yin and yang in some areas~ Last thing is I've got some qualms with performance. MLs got a lot of experience playing as a high schooler but can flip the switch and play adult characters properly. FL, the high school bits were fine. But I see no difference between characters after the long time skip. It's like he's grown up but she hasn't, that's best way I can describe it. Idk if I've seen her in anything else, so I can't get a feel as to whether it's the character or the actress? The way she's broken up with the sml has me thinking it's the character that's still immature? Argggh, anyone else get what I'm saying or can say it better? Lol In any case, the dramas been ok enough to know I won't drop.
Guys , Gals. Gals, Guys. Guys and Gals. Gals and Guys!! ITS ALMOST HERE!!!! 🤩 I'ma wait one more week. Then I'ma recap and refresh season 1 with the wife. And I fully expect season 2 to 'rain' supreme! Get it?!! Rain, reign!!! Bwhahahahaha!! No seriously though. Rains looking like he could go shoot another couple of Ninja films. I can't wait.......
Naaaaw. Attach no meaning to the ending. That's deliberate on the writers part. Too conspicuous. Just gonna double down on all them dummies being completely besotted and eager to please. Anything to keep her attention on them while discrediting the others~ The women closest to each of the suitors are well aware of this which is why they all hate her~ Each dude also has a different perception of her, something she's aware of and leans into. She's got a different aura around them~ So with the info we been privy too up to this point, everyone is still suspect, all theories are still valid, and we've no choice but to wait~
Ok........ 1 ~ WE knew that she knew that he was across in the complex before it was pointed out. That smirk said it all~
2 ~ Siren mode had been activated ages ago the minute he found out she received no payouts or claims and still decided to poke around her life. She already owned him and keeps getting pulled further and further into the song she's singing. I've never liked a particular trope at Kdramas use frequently. They will have the ML/FL follow one another around and watch them all the time and learn their routines, all that stuff, and depict it as a lovey dovey I must know everything about you love stricken cutesy act to show interest. Ehhh. No. That shite needs to be wiped out completely and should have been ages ago. That's not cute. That's f'n stalking and it's a HUGE problem in EU for women and children that keeps getting worse. I really don't like them using it for romance when this is what monsters are doing IRL to carry out SA's~
3 ~ ML is a stalker and a creep as alluded to from point 2. Already didn't like him getting involved when it had nothing to do with him, I double down on that now because of the records he found at the end. Those records are from 15+ yrs ago and has no bearing with the deaths of those 3 other guys. Pretty invasive and I'm always going to point that out because again, it's had nothing to do with him from the start. Know what I'm saying? Lol. He isn't being led by logic, it's something considerably lower that keeps pointing at her 24/7~
4 ~ The lady who was lecturing ML about being sympathetic and understanding towards FL because of the recent mishaps is correct. He's completely compromised~
5 ~ The sister who dropped the vase os a rude little (excuse the language 😅) bitch who is completely out of line. She's got hangups and a clear dislike of the FL and that's fine. But she's turning it personal and bringing it to the workplace. There's no excuse. You don't act out at work. The fact that she's got the job she currently has because of FL made her outburst that much worse. FL won't term her because of the relationship they both share with the photographer guy and and the little girl knows that~ Last thing is iffy. Near the end of the episode where the leads kiss in front of the rich guy for the 'charade'. She's fully aware they both like her. Anyone think she's pitting them up against each other? And let's not forget about her close friend too, that one likes her but is in the FZ~
It is not about fiction and doctor ethics and possibilities for me at all. Then the story of Frankenstein (1818)…
In theory or on paper, it's unusual and definitely unique. That's something that is getting harder to find as writers churn out drama after drama trying to fill the need we addicts have for moar!! 🤩 Science fiction, fantasy, supernatural etc.......I tend to have tastes for things outside the box. Fiction is fiction, it's just for entertainment and I get it. But my wife is definitely more grounded. Have you ever seen or heard of the X-Files from back in the day? The premise was based on a pair of FBI agents with vastly different mindsets, one wanted to prove the existence of aliens and stuff while the other one was focused on debunking theories. The partners in that series, both ideologies eventually started to wear on each others beliefs. I can't think of a better description for me and my wife~ I would have been all over this back in the day w/o a 2nd thought. But I've been ruined 😮💨She just hit me for saying that 😆 Anyways........we watched a few minutes and I know we're supposed to give these things a chance. We just can't do it. Science is too deeply ingrained in her and some of that's rubbed off on me. For me, it's the lack of star power right off the bat. There's a couple of familiar faces but no one I have enough interest in to watch~ So she's not going to give it a 2nd thought and I'll look at comments in a couple weeks to see if it's watchable. Right now, everyone is slamming it~
Theres a long time familiarity sense shown by the way SML tells FL to go make up with the soon to be step mom. The step mom was running or a part of the hotelier type business with this guy which is how he was brought into the picture with the father and the FL in a much younger sense. Presented as young but much older than FL upon meeting her as a teen. That's why he was already staring and had all the longing looks whenever he came on screen. He'd already been around for a good amount of time by the time the leads met and she was 19 at that time, already talking to her, already in confidence with her, giving advice, steering her, subtly guiding her~
All that is confirmed when we found out he was the cause for her being isolated, suggested working for experience far away from dad, dad died on his watch, step mom only heard about her through him as they eventually became a couple and ran the business. Her early teen years were being groomed. And he still managed to isolate her again in the end by getting her back to the place they ran. Her decisions were almost always forced into doing things he said despite not wanting too because it always made sense in some way and it started sooooo early. She's not free of blame by any means but the dude's been running the long game and it's been working.
Really? Was whoring around good for the family or was it for yourself? Circumstances and individual priorities were just a TAD bit different~
We've seen the " young determination to get justice" bit too many times, so it's not bringing anything to drama, any generic filler scenes would do the same, so the police side story has no appeal whatsoever to me other than the chaos it adds~
TS though. He's done nothing to ever raise the possibility of doing something behind Eunas back, so I was a bit surprised at her reaction towards seeing the other girl. She, on the other hand, constantly comes off as shady from the outside looking in. If anyone was allowed to react to something like that, it was definitely him. Relationships gotta have something close to the he middle as far give and takes go. It's been pretty uneven through out the whole drama though. Poor guys had it rough. He can't keep going on like this~
And can someone plz explain the guesthouse fiasco please? I still don't quite understand what went down~
For God sakes lol, ML is still a stalking nosy blind fool I still can't stand who STILL shouldn't be involved and now I get to add simp to the list~
I just can't like him, if he'd been able to introduce himself and get to know her on a regular level, I wouldn't have this kind of hate. But since it stemmed from invasion and intrusion and whatnot, another car accident or 4 would be quite pleasant to behold. Or the infamous 🚛. Give into the vow and prove himself by dying for her. Yup the hate real lol. Looking forward to the next episode~
My curiosity is piqued, let's see how the execution goes.........along with all the pre drama hate good lord........... hasn't even started yet and ppl/bots are already engineering hate narratives 😑 Chat behave!! 😃
Lol......this CLEARLY wasn't made to win awards. I knew heading into this not to expect any more than a 7 as peak~
Do I like? Ehh......no comment. Another man's trash is another man's treasure or something like that. Case in point.............my wife is a cardiologist and surgeon, and lives in a medical world that's almost the very definition of law, logic, and order. And I already know she likes this due to the very absence of those things others say are needed to be 'good'. To each their own. Go figure~
MLs willingness to pick up where things left off was abit surprising.........but when the 20 question game started it was clear he hadn't changed~
Not breaking up in person means it wasn't done (oh really?) and there was no contact in between the years.......🤨Ehhh........this felt like an extended bout of ghost lighting. Her train of thought is something else. Flighty as f'k. (Excuse da
language 😅) While this dude continues true to form and puts anything and everything when it comes to this girl above himself. It puts heavy emphasis on the fact that they're definitely yin and yang in some areas~
Last thing is I've got some qualms with performance. MLs got a lot of experience playing as a high schooler but can flip the switch and play adult characters properly. FL, the high school bits were fine. But I see no difference between characters after the long time skip. It's like he's grown up but she hasn't, that's best way I can describe it. Idk if I've seen her in anything else, so I can't get a feel as to whether it's the character or the actress? The way she's broken up with the sml has me thinking it's the character that's still immature? Argggh, anyone else get what I'm saying or can say it better? Lol
In any case, the dramas been ok enough to know I won't drop.
I'ma wait one more week. Then I'ma recap and refresh season 1 with the wife. And I fully expect season 2 to 'rain' supreme! Get it?!! Rain, reign!!! Bwhahahahaha!!
No seriously though. Rains looking like he could go shoot another couple of Ninja films. I can't wait.......
The women closest to each of the suitors are well aware of this which is why they all hate her~
Each dude also has a different perception of her, something she's aware of and leans into. She's got a different aura around them~
So with the info we been privy too up to this point, everyone is still suspect, all theories are still valid, and we've no choice but to wait~
1 ~ WE knew that she knew that he was across in the complex before it was pointed out. That smirk said it all~
2 ~ Siren mode had been activated ages ago the minute he found out she received no payouts or claims and still decided to poke around her life. She already owned him and keeps getting pulled further and further into the song she's singing. I've never liked a particular trope at Kdramas use frequently. They will have the ML/FL follow one another around and watch them all the time and learn their routines, all that stuff, and depict it as a lovey dovey I must know everything about you love stricken cutesy act to show interest. Ehhh. No. That shite needs to be wiped out completely and should have been ages ago. That's not cute. That's f'n stalking and it's a HUGE problem in EU for women and children that keeps getting worse. I really don't like them using it for romance when this is what monsters are doing IRL to carry out SA's~
3 ~ ML is a stalker and a creep as alluded to from point 2. Already didn't like him getting involved when it had nothing to do with him, I double down on that now because of the records he found at the end. Those records are from 15+ yrs ago and has no bearing with the deaths of those 3 other guys. Pretty invasive and I'm always going to point that out because again, it's had nothing to do with him from the start. Know what I'm saying? Lol. He isn't being led by logic, it's something considerably lower that keeps pointing at her 24/7~
4 ~ The lady who was lecturing ML about being sympathetic and understanding towards FL because of the recent mishaps is correct. He's completely compromised~
5 ~ The sister who dropped the vase os a rude little (excuse the language 😅) bitch who is completely out of line. She's got hangups and a clear dislike of the FL and that's fine. But she's turning it personal and bringing it to the workplace. There's no excuse. You don't act out at work. The fact that she's got the job she currently has because of FL made her outburst that much worse. FL won't term her because of the relationship they both share with the photographer guy and and the little girl knows that~
Last thing is iffy. Near the end of the episode where the leads kiss in front of the rich guy for the 'charade'. She's fully aware they both like her. Anyone think she's pitting them up against each other? And let's not forget about her close friend too, that one likes her but is in the FZ~
Science fiction, fantasy, supernatural etc.......I tend to have tastes for things outside the box. Fiction is fiction, it's just for entertainment and I get it. But my wife is definitely more grounded. Have you ever seen or heard of the X-Files from back in the day? The premise was based on a pair of FBI agents with vastly different mindsets, one wanted to prove the existence of aliens and stuff while the other one was focused on debunking theories. The partners in that series, both ideologies eventually started to wear on each others beliefs. I can't think of a better description for me and my wife~
I would have been all over this back in the day w/o a 2nd thought. But I've been ruined 😮💨She just hit me for saying that 😆
Anyways........we watched a few minutes and I know we're supposed to give these things a chance. We just can't do it. Science is too deeply ingrained in her and some of that's rubbed off on me. For me, it's the lack of star power right off the bat. There's a couple of familiar faces but no one I have enough interest in to watch~
So she's not going to give it a 2nd thought and I'll look at comments in a couple weeks to see if it's watchable. Right now, everyone is slamming it~