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Hahahahaha. I read you comment in Reunion drama thread. You were sounded so frustrated.

I also love Zhu Yi Long ever since Guardian. I was literally chasing his old dramas back then. But his Wu Xie ..... lacking a weight that show the mental scar from the 10 years waiting Zhang Qi Ling. It is reasonable for Wu Xie in Reunion to be different from Wu Xie in Ultimate Note since Wu Xie in Reunion already through a lot. But still, something is lacking. I cannot see his attachment to Zhang Qi Ling at all. I don't think that was the Wu Xie who had done lots of thing just for giving Zhang Qi Ling a safe world for him to return.

Ultimate Note showed us the budding relationship of the iron triangle. By right we should see a much more close knit iron triangle in Reunion, not those useless romance lines.

I haven't read Reunion novel. However, from the information I get from the internet, the drama added lots of thing that were not present in the web novel. But, I hear that Xu Lei himself said that the web novel version was more of a draft version and the events in the drama would be incorporated later in the final version of the novel.

The fans out there concluded that regarding Reunion, Xu Lei actually write the script first then the novel.

I honestly feel rather uncomfortable with this sequel because the characters feels so ...... OOC (even without the addition of all those romance lines). It is beyond me that Wu Xie never thinks about what Zhang Qi Ling fate after he died. He just said that he was sick and expect Zhang Qi Ling to go with him in a last quest that basically killing him even faster. Was this really the Wu Xie I know? The one that got obsessed of getting Zhang Qi Ling home?

I am with you regarding Xiao Bai. But unfortunately, she is here to stay. As far as I know, she is know the fourth sister of the iron triangle .......

Ultimate Note is part of the main series of 8 books. Reunion is the sequel of the main series.

No, we don't. But those in China might. Sigh .... I wish them luck in their endeavor. It seems it is very hot in weibo currently. Sadly I cannot access them. The fans just get angrier because Xu Lei blocked every question about Ultimate Note and Zhang Qi Ling in his live broadcast.

I truly cannot understand why the novel author butchered his own work by his own hand like this. Pingxie is a very very popular pairing in China. It is crazy to disregard that and adding lots of new character for romance lines instead. And why he chose a director who was not familiar with the original novel is beyond me .....

At this moment, I only want the cast of Ultimate Note to continue filming the book 8. No less no more. If we are lucky, then we perhaps can have Qin Hao and Xiao Yu Liang to re-enact Wu Xie and Zhang Qi Ling in Ten Years Later novel.

Until it is proven otherwise, I will remain skeptical toward Xu Lei production company.

I got more information regarding Xu Lei and his Reunion production team. It seemed that even though Xu Lei was the chief screenwriter, they had more than one screenwriter. What is worse was that the director didn't familiar with the original novels at all, and that the production team (or perhaps only the director) was targeting the general audience instead of books fans, thus the addition of romance lines.

Based on those fact, I think Xu Lei production company is rather shady. I don't know whether they have realized their wrong in adapting Reunion novel after seeing the crazy response of fans toward Ultimate Note. Therefore, I honestly don't have high hope for Xu Lei production company at the moment. Moreover, the last arc of The Lost Tomb main series is full of pingxie moment. Do you really want the team who had butchered pingxie in Reunion until it was no longer recognizable to adapt the last book of the main series?!

Currently, there is a tremendous amount of support from the fans for the Ultimate Note production team to produce the continuation of this drama. But the problem is the copyright is resided with the novel author now. And the author has his own production company to produce the adaptation for his novels. I read that Xu Lei has this intention to re-make the drama from the beginning. So getting the copyright of book 8 will be difficult.

I think there is some kind of war currently happen in China between Doumu Biji fandom (majority consisted by books fans) and Xu Lei (insinuated by the comments I read in bilibili). This really make me realize how big this fandom truly is ..... Some fans even dare to talk about crowdfunding.

Your speculation is correct. The production team of Ultimate Note is indeed the original book fans, hahahaha. They pretty much formally admitted that.

I got to this fandom through The Lost Tomb 1 with Yang Yang. Unfortunately I was not into online discussion back then either active or passive. So, I am not privy what truly happened.

As far as I know, the early plan was to split the series into a number of season with the same cast. But seems lots of things happened after then. Both Li Yi Feng and Yang Yang got out from Huan Rui which was the copyright holder of The Lost Tomb series. I bet it would make it impossible for them to shoot the next season with the same cast. And, I read some information that Xu Lei didn't like Yang Yang, something about his hair when he acted as Zhang Qi Ling. I remember someone mentioned in a comment under some discussion that this fact actually offended Yang Yang fans that made them didn't want Yang Yang to have anything to do again with The Lost Tomb.

About Xiao Yu Liang, I am sure he has nothing to do with Xu Lei as of late. Ultimate Note didn't have Xu Lei participation at all. I think that banned action born from the fact that his book fans literally loving an adaptation that didn't come out form his hand and scolded the one that did. Even though I think the reasoning still too weak to explain the harsh action toward those who like Xiao Yu Liang and Zhang Qi Ling. Still, I need to stress it that people truly love Xiao Yu Liang for his act as Zhang Qi Ling. The praise is so high to the sky.

Or he is still salty from the scolding of fans toward his Reunion drama. The majority of comments under Ultimate Note in bilibili (especially Zhang Qi Ling video) comes from books fans and the majority of them annoyed with Reunion. Most of them seems to give up in the middle of season 1 and some of them just finished season 1 without bothering with season 2. Those who watched season 2, got very angry from the fact that Xiao Bai became fourth sister and how Fatty let Zhang Qi Ling shed blood. The fight regarding Reunion drama actually included Zhu Yi Long fans and the original novel fans. Well, I don't know how fierce this fighting back when Reunion was airing but as of now I read that there are fans of Reunion that bad-talked about Ultimate Note.

Same, I also like Xiao Yu Liang the most as Zhang Qi Ling. His Zhang Qi Ling feels human and exudes this aura of loneliness and detachment. Not to mention all of his fighting scene are sight to behold.

About Reunion, I think I have stated my opinion in one of my comments in this thread. I do agree with your assessment. Wu Xie and Zhang Qi Ling connection was very weak in Reunion. I do realize that the drama had some tender moments between them two, but I just could not feel it. There was no tension. Wu Xie in Reunion didn't feel as someone who had been separated from Zhang Qi Ling for 10 years and did lots of heinous things. Well, perhaps because I stopped watching in the middle of season 1. I just could not handle Xiao Bai.

I noticed that the majority of book fans are prizing Wu Xie and Zhang Qi Ling relationship very much. And Zhang Qi Ling himself is a very popular character. So when they see an adaptation honors both, they are very happy.

And yes, book 6 has two version. I think one version is longer .... as far as I know.

Reunion drama is already done. Nothing can be changed anymore. Honestly, I haven't checked the Reunion novel so I cannot say whether the fault is already with the source or only with the adaption.

There is lots of comment under Ultimate Note video in bilibili. And other than praising the drama, there are some conversation where people sharing their grievance toward the novel author. It is quite sad actually.

They especially very salty about Xiao Bai being a fourth sister (this, I really need to watch Reunion season 2 to verify) and the fact that Fatty said to Zhang Qi Ling somewhere in Reunion season 2 to use his blood to repel something (I forgot). People compared Fatty act in Reunion with the fact that Wu Xie didn't let Zhang Qi Ling to shed more blood when they were fighting with spider in Ultimate Note.

Bilibili is kind of China youtube. As I have seen it through people comments, it seems there is some tension between the books fans and Xu Lei as the author. The culprit is the Reunion drama. Looks like the majority of books fans actually don't like that drama adaptation, citing Xu Lei only cares about money now and no longer love his own creation ..... Well, the reasons are actually pretty much familiar to us: unnecessary romance, Xiao Bai, lack of bromance and so on.

On the other hand, Ultimate Note is very much loved by books fans. You need to remember this novel series is more than 10 years old and lots of fans are already reading this series ever since their youth. Lots of them are praising this drama to sky high, especially the actor played as Zhang Qi Ling: Xiao Yu Liang. The douban rating for Ultimate Note and Reunion seems to be tied. And to rub the salt to the wound, Xu Lei actually didn't have any say or contribution to Ultimate Note. Please be noted too that Reunion has bigger budget than Ultimate Note. People are jesting that the Lost Tomb series that didn't have the novel author participation is actually better than the one has.

Perhaps this fact and people say in the internet don't sit well with Xu Lei. I read rumor (I don't know if this is true or not) that in some Xu Lei live broadcast, anyone who mentioned Xiao Yu Liang and Zhang Qi Ling is banned. So .... yeah .... I don't have high hope for any remake with Ultimate Note cast in this current situation.

We certainly can hope for a remake from the novel author production company. But, with current situation, it will be very hard for Ultimate Note cast to be part of it. I hope I am wrong though. The way people comment in bilibili is not raising any confidence .....

Yes, grandma Huo died in book 8.

So do I. Also in the middle of downloading. I don't want to be restricted by internet to enjoy this marvel of drama, hahahaha.

I am hoping to see a story centered on ancient Zhang family with Wang Cang Hai as villain instead .....

The best would be if you read the book 8 of the main series.

In short, Wu Xie will then enter the Zhang family house to rescue Zhang Qi Ling. They got out. By that time, Zhang Qi Ling somewhat recovered his memory. It is not clear how much he remembers, but he is clear on who he is and his responsibility as Zhang Qi Ling. They will separate again, right now on Zhang Qi Ling own term since he no longer that clean slate man that needed care from Wu Xie and Pang Zi.

After a certain time has passed, Zhang Qi Ling meet Wu Xie in Hang Zhao to say his farewell since it is time for him guard the bronze gate. Wu Xie insists on tailing him until they arrive at Changbai Mountain. There they have this conversation about Zhang family, Nine Family, and their responsibility regarding Bronze gate. So, the agreement is that Zhang family and Nine families will take turn to guard the Bronze gate every 10 years but no one from Nine families actually going. And now, it is actually Wu Xie turn to guard the gate as per the agreement. But Zhang Qi Ling decides to replace him instead.

Zhang Qi Ling knocks Wu Xie unconscious after the conversation and enter the bronze gate alone. Then the start of their 10 years promise that you can see in The Tomb of the Sea.

I hope this help .....

Exactly my question, too. I want book 8 of the main series to be adapted by the same production team and cast ...... I think this production team really know what the audiences truly want to see in The Lost Tomb drama.