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He already has dramas where he doesnt play a cold character , they are even listed on this page ,but you are not interested in them ,you just want to bitch and moan and drag him.

honestly i love you .for me too its about how i connect with the actors. if love them then its all well and good.

thanks for a fair assessment . you were not blinded by the hiy drome which lead to a lot of unnecessary hate/bias against the main couple .

eunwoo did a very good job with true beauty, some people just want to criticise him and some are upset that hiy didnt get the girl so they hate on him. im not saying he is the best korean actor but he did a pretty good job in true beauty in portraying his character. lee suho was not the fun, lively, nice kinda guy, he was broody, cold and closed off and he pulled it off very well .

happy birthday darling .you deserve the best in all things .

I see you didn't address the specific points i raised refuting your claims about seojun not having close friends .
1.he did talk to Chorom about jk, he could have called chorom again.
It's ludicrous to say that because he cried alone on a staircase, means he has nobody. Jk cried alone lots of times but she had her family/suho.
2.The only major negative thing {besides seyeon's death} that happened to seojun in the entire drama was jk's rejection. Every other thing ended positively for him.His mom's health improved, his sister triumphed over her bullies and got a nice boyfriend, his relationship with suho was restored, he debuted as a kpop artist.
So how can u say he was the only character that was better off before?
3. You say he deserves someone that loves him not jk ,therefore his acceptance that she doesn't love him and his letting go of that emotional burden is a positive step in that direction.
4. Fame may or may not bring happiness but Seojun is accomplishing his dreams.Another positive step.

5. I said "I COULD" also ask you to stop commenting,meaning i'm not currently doing that. Basically @zealous and you want me making only comments that are acceptable to both of you ,doesn't work that way .Interestingly the folks i replied to are not even complaining but you and @zealous are.LOL

There are hundreds of youtube/instagram videos with thousands of comments all lamenting seojuns heartbreak and why he deserved jk and why the drama didn't stick to the webtoon version of seojun/jk romance. there is even someone on this side calling for a boycott of the script writers dramas because seojun didn't get the girl so no i don't agree that most of the angst is not about a seojun/jk ending .
most of those calling for a happy ending for seojun say they wanted him to get a new girl or or have him together with jk .............note that most of what seojun fans want ultimately has to do with some sort of romantic happiness. i doubt that his having more attentive friends or showing him smiling at that wedding would have changed that outlook.


People have vigorous debates that do get heated ,its a public forum and anyone is free to engage or disengage .Except for extremely hateful speech or violent speech we are allowed to disagree and i welcome different and counter view points especially when based on the facts of the drama not just personal whims or subjective feelings. I wouldn't make too much of random debates with strangers online and disagree with trying to excessively police people's speech just to suit our feelings.

"no one was really there for him"........... he confided to his big friend chorom at the gym about his feelings for jk, when he had an accident his family and friends were all at the hospital to cheer him up, jk and suho and his friends came to support him at his debut. After jk reconciled with suho she went back to have lunch with seojun and she apologized that she couldn't reciprocate his feelings,but people keep bashing her that she didn't care for him. his mom and sister were invited to heegyeongs wedding, he was obviously invited and his mom tells jk's mom that his on coming debut kept him busy and away from the wedding.
After jk's rejection, suho still helped them recompose their song for seojun's debut, had lunch with him where he encouraged him . so where is this narrative that he "had no one" coming from?

once more you spin seojun as a pathetic character but i don't think he is . on what planet does a 20 yr old debuting as a kpop idol not be a pleasant and happy event regardless of jk's rejection? firstly jk never liked him as a love interest, and while that rejection hurts i dont think its comparable to that of an ex lover,they shared no real intimate moments. part of why he cried at his debut could be attributed to memories of seyeon and their song not even jk. remember that suho also had tears in his eyes at that event and the next song was very upbeat.
nobody spends yrs training a to be a kpop idol if they don't want it at all, if he wasn't passionate or didn't want it why did he go back ? does that even make sense ?
from the way he acts in class we see that seojun is not that interested in academics,his sister is also gifted in music. so maybe it's a family thing .very hard to believe that he was just going along for the ride .
some people say happy ending, i call it more of a "hopeful ending", because there is hope for happiness in his life . he is 20 ,on his way to fame and fortune and will definitely meet other nice girls.he's got the love and support of friends and family,he's healthy. that's more than lots of people have.
If seojun was your friend and confided in you about jk's rejection and his upcoming debut would you not tell him to forget jk and be happy for his debut ? i think most of us in real life would be happy if our friend debuts and we wouldn't want them to dwell on some one sided teenage love.
At this point though we will just have to agree to disagree .

We can all agree that most seojun fans are upset that he didn't end up with jugyeong like it was in the webtoon not because they didn't show him pursuing his music , even if they had done that some people would still be upset that jk chose suho and not him.
frankly you shouldn't be telling anyone on a discussion website to stop commenting,it's ridiculous .Anyone is free to engage or disengage ,you should also take your own advise and stop commenting on people with a different viewpoint .

..........."No sympathy for seojun "I? If people had any more sympathy for seojun, we would be holding an annual seojun heartbreak remembrance month along with planned rallies and marches for justice.LMAO.

The premise of the entire drama is actually jugyeong .let's not get carried away,it's primarily about jugyeongs journey not suho or seojun . Their relevance to her story is that they both have romantic interest in her .
pls stop using that term "invalidate their opinion". it is a discussion site and we are free to discuss issues from different perspectives and disagree. And frankly some opinions discussed here are not based on the facts of the drama rather on preference for a particular character.
invalidating someone is a much more long term process involving people who are more intimate or interact on a deeper level over a wide range of issues .
having a different perspective on a drama website is not invalidating anyone. no one is stopping you from feeling for any drama character, but don't expect that we all have to see things the same way or experience the drama like u do.
I could also make the claim that you are invalidating my opinion since you replied to me and you have a different take on seojun's story, besides what is so wrong in celebrating seojun's other successes instead of focusing only on his one sided love.

But he will be happy. He did debut ,he has a budding music career, he has great friends ,suho and jk were there supporting him at his debut concert ,his mom's health is better, his sister is doing well in college. It's a new beginning for him, a chance to start afresh. That is always good.
He wanted to go into music ,he was already a trainee but left after his friends death. suho and jk's sister had to talk him back into it, he still got the opportunity to go back .Celebrate that.

Fantastic. I hope fantagio plans eunwoo's schedule to give him time to really eat up that script .
He was shooting mith,hosting award shows, shooting commercials and magazine shoots,learning jujitsu,recording the love so fine ost while filming true beauty.
I think actors need to really focus when playing their characters and studying the script,so many distractions make it harder to mentally and emotionally transform into a character .

Imagine wishing a living breathing human being a bad day over a drama character. didnt u learn anything from the drama ? pls come back to reality.

Why dont u celebrate his debut,music career and good friendships rather than acting like the entire point to seojun's life was jugyeong.

I'm still watching the first episode . Not so used to japanese dramas but the lack of any subplots, bland attempts at humor and solemn characters give the drama an air of mourning and has me scratching my head. The reason why i can't deal with most japanese dramas. Personally female lead looks absolutely no different with makeup . They don't even attempt anything major,unlike in true beauty where u see a major difference in her skin,lets see if i can even get through ep 1.

I just read her interview ,was posted on instagram and some seojun/hiy fanatics are leaving hateful comments for the writer ,which is disgraceful .Too many delusional folks hating a living breathing human being over completely fictitious ,made up characters.
One commenter said "Lee Sieun deserves all the hate". I'm not sure why she gave that interview, but in trying to explain herself she seemed to have further enraged the "mob". she shouldn't have tried to placate the "mob", they will never be satisfied until she writes their own version of the story .
I find it truly astonishing, an extreme unhealthy attachment to fictitious characters.
I'm reminded of the american movie misery where an author is imprisoned by a psychotic fan . Sure we all love certain characters in movies, but when u start wishing hate on the writer,calling on people to boycott her movies,blaming her for all the hurt and pain the fictitious seojun "is still experiencing", then we are wandering into psycho land and folks need to CHILL.

ya ,are u trying to start a riot or something ?

Contrary to what some people think ,drama is based off a webtoon and her love life and makeup skills are really the premise of the webtoon. Character growth is really nil in the webtoon. drama actually does a better job of "love yourself '' than its original source material.