I really like this series. Hill is so cute. And I was looking forward to Johann North but I didn't quite feel…
I mostly agree with you, actually, although with some reservations. I want to clarify:
1. I don't get why Ter is shipping North with Johan either, unless Hill has told him something before, because North is definitely not into Johan yet, he clearly stated to his friends that he has seen a side of him that is not swoonworthy and that he doesn't care that someone is good-looking and rich if that person has indebted him. Johan will have to put some work here and I personally like this. We already have a couple (Hill and Ter) who were both into each other from the beginning and I like that Johan and North have different dynamics and Johan's feelings for North are one-sided as for now. 2. Ter might be annoying with his shipping, but Hill was the one who actively sold his boyfriend's best friend to his friend without missing a beat. I highly doubt North would've ended up breaking expensive wine bottles and puking on expensive clothes if Hill and Ter had gone to pick him up and bring him to his dorm. There's nothing expensive he would've ruined there. I put the responsibility on Hill and not so much on Ter here. 3. I don't want to defend Johan and I get he's using his wealth to get what he wants, but North was the one who started the fight and he would've been held responsible for the mess he caused in any country. As he himself said, he would've had to pay for the damage in the bar or at least some of it, medical bills, etc. What Johan basically did is clear up the mess in the bar for him and pay the other parties off so they'd leave North alone, and therefore become the only person North is indebted to. Of course, whether this is for better or worse for North, he himself doesn't know, but we do, we're watching BL after all. I bet that Johan will not take any money from North and will use the situation to force North to get to know him and eventually like him, so all of this makes me accept that situation more easily than I would normally. 4. That being said, I absolutely feel for North and can understand why he's not ready to warm up to Johan yet. For such a young person who's struggling with money to begin with, to suddenly find himself in such a situation must be terrifying. I saw a complaint somewhere that North wanted to talk only about debt and interest in episode 7. Um, what else is he supposed to do, a debt of over 10000 € is not to be taken lightly. The Johan/North story, from what I've seen, will be slow-burn and I personally think that under the circumstances it can't be anything else.
North and Johan have my whole heart, I love them so much!
And I really like that North is not swooning over Johan's good looks, but will make him work to win him over. North is by far my favourite character, I find him very charming and natural.
I'm repeating myself, but unlike many, I love the series, it's cute and it makes me smile. :)
I was curious and checked how much money North owes Johan in a currency which value I can understand. It's over 10600 € and this is quite a lot of money. North is lucky Johan seems to be gone for him already. :)
Read @ashesinthewind's comment below (about four down from mine), I think this is right on. Khen made the whole…
Yes, there's no other explanation for the video with Mas with it and for the e-mail if Khem was indeed dead. The only explanation is that Khem never died and we ended up watching the story we saw him writing during the entire time he was in the house, only that not a ghost has been writing it, but a real person; the protagonist of the story was a ghost, but not the one who actually wrote it. We were inside Khem's written story, not in the real world.
After thinking a little more about it, this is my theory: if we separate ghost!Khem's story completely from the story of the Khem we saw at the end of episode 10 - first in the library when he bumped into Mas from 2020 and then when Toh asked him to go with them to Chiang Mai - the story does make sense.
I think what happened is that Khem, who is a talented writer and loves history and Chiang Mai, met Mas by accident with his Shakespeare book (who, as we know, likes writing tragic and impossible love stories) and either was attracted immediately to him or found him memorable enough to incorporate him into his story later. Then he got invited to accompany the other 4 to visit that historical house and write about it in order to promote it. As we saw in episode 1, he started visiting the library in Chiang Mai and learned some things about the history of the house and the people who have lived in it. Inspired and after the road accident, which definitely happened, although no one died, he created the entire story we saw, imagining himself as the main protagonist and choosing the boy with the Shakespeare book (yes, there has to have been some attraction, otherwise it would make no sense) as his love interest in an impossible love story that happened and was connected to the house he's supposed to promote. The baby Mas named after the moon at the end was still part of the story and therefore ghost!Khem's story ended up having a hopeful, although open, ending for the mains.
Outside Khem's story, the real Khem probably has approached Mas from 2020 and asked him to help him with the video in order to make the story he wrote a little livelier. Whether they would end up together or not in the real world is open for interpretations. :)
The first episode was basically a copycat of the Thai original, but I liked the changes in the second one. It seems (although I might be wrong) that the biggest change will be that they won't be splitting the two couples completely like they did in the Thai series, because Fuma and Kai already met in this episode and I suspect the ONS will be moved to next week's episode unlike in the Thai original, where Sky and Prapai didn't meet on screen before episode 8, although their story had already started. If so, I'm all for it.
I ended up liking this way more than I expected, considering the first episode was a little slow for me. The show got better as it progressed.
The ending was probably meant to be confusing and there is not a right or wrong answer, unless the script writers reveal it to us, but it seems to me that everything that happened was made up and scripted by Khem, because he loves writing, history, Chiang Mai, bumped into an attractive boy in the library who likes Shakespeare and used him as an inspiration for his story after completing the mission with the other 4 people in Chiang Mai. This is my interpretation of the ending.
I was a big fan of Bing and Toh and would've loved to see them together once again. This is probably the only thing I actively missed.
But anyway, it was a good mystery series and I'm glad I watched it.
Johan is acting strange, like he's been into North for some time, although North said he doesn't know him and they just met once before. I hope there will be some explanation.
The good thing is that Johan's seen the worst of North already and if he still wants him, then it has to be real love. ;)
I agree, they are perfect together. I'm also watching it again, but I must confess, I really like Jiang Tian,…
Unfortunately, I can't really help you, they were two or three shorts on YouTube, no idea about the quality of the translations. In this thread on tumblr you can find some of the things he said, though: https://www.tumblr.com/ddanadeai/765914184705769472
I think it's a little sad that so few people are watching this. True, the love story leaves to be desired, but the plot is very different from your usual BL show and I was anticipating every week to see what is going to happen. If you can get through the first episode, which is longer and more detailled than it should be (but it's important anyway so try to push through), I can recomment watching this, just for the plot.
I agree, they are perfect together. I'm also watching it again, but I must confess, I really like Jiang Tian,…
Well, I think one of the many reasons why Tian absolutely adores and admires Wang is exactly because unlike Tian, who has closed up after his parents treated him the way they did, Wang hasn't lost his positive, open and curious personality, despite having no mother and an absentee father. It's very interesting because they both have experienced similar issues with their parents in their childhood, although for different reasons, but their reactions to them are very different.
I agree, they are perfect together. I'm also watching it again, but I must confess, I really like Jiang Tian,…
Sheng Wang is way more than just a cute big baby; in fact, he's the one who moves the Wang/Tian relationship forward and makes the decisions; Tian just follows his lead. :-) They made a very valid and important point in episode 12: Wang is a brave person. If he hadn't tried to break the ice between them despite Tian's initial treatment of him and hadn't opened up in episode 3, they would've never come as far as they did.
Episode 3 is one of my favourites for many reasons, but LDQ's nuanced performance when he was trying to approach a boy who was somehow hostile, but still letting him tag along and still helping him is probably the biggest of them. He managed to portray feelings of confusion, frustration, sadness, real pain, apprehension, eagerness, hope, disappointment and so on and while drunk, he was opening up to Tian, telling him off, making demands and being cute all at once... best thing ever.
I watched parts of his live (the ones I could find with subs) and this guy loves Sheng Wang and seems to have really taken his time to understand the character and it shows on screen. I'm not saying he gets no recognition, because he does, I just feel it could be more.
5 episodes in and I feel just not smart enough to understand this show. Maybe it's a translation problem, or the way it's been told, but there are two very important things I don't understand:
1. Why does it seem to me that Dohoe keeps blaming Juyeong for what went wrong between them and not his horrible father? While I will never understand Juyeong keeping in touch with such a despicable person, especially after seeing how Dohoe was abused and getting quite a bit of abuse himself, Dohoe's treatment of him is abhorrent. From what I got from episode 5, he gave an explanation about why he's so mad, but I didn't get it, I'm just more confused than before. 2. Can they finally give a clear picture about what's going on between Dohoe and his ex-bully and now drinking buddy? Are they friends-with-benefits now and why does it seem so hard for Dohoe to dump him?
P.S. Never mind, at least question #1 has been cleared up after episode 6. Finally Dohoe expressed it they way he should have the day he left 12 years ago. Maybe if he had that mess wouldn't have happened.
It's my very shallow side showing itself, but honestly, if Run and Kim come together, they would be the best-looking couple in the BL universe. Seriously, both are so stunning.
Run has to be my favourite character in this series, because he actually has a somehow valid reason to behave the way he does. The rest of them, not so much, although I admit that Elyes and Pat are better now than they were at the beginning.
Mick and Top did amazing in the last two episodes, outstanding performance! They were by far my favourite couple in My Universe and I hope they and this series will continue to deliver.
1. I don't get why Ter is shipping North with Johan either, unless Hill has told him something before, because North is definitely not into Johan yet, he clearly stated to his friends that he has seen a side of him that is not swoonworthy and that he doesn't care that someone is good-looking and rich if that person has indebted him. Johan will have to put some work here and I personally like this. We already have a couple (Hill and Ter) who were both into each other from the beginning and I like that Johan and North have different dynamics and Johan's feelings for North are one-sided as for now.
2. Ter might be annoying with his shipping, but Hill was the one who actively sold his boyfriend's best friend to his friend without missing a beat. I highly doubt North would've ended up breaking expensive wine bottles and puking on expensive clothes if Hill and Ter had gone to pick him up and bring him to his dorm. There's nothing expensive he would've ruined there. I put the responsibility on Hill and not so much on Ter here.
3. I don't want to defend Johan and I get he's using his wealth to get what he wants, but North was the one who started the fight and he would've been held responsible for the mess he caused in any country. As he himself said, he would've had to pay for the damage in the bar or at least some of it, medical bills, etc. What Johan basically did is clear up the mess in the bar for him and pay the other parties off so they'd leave North alone, and therefore become the only person North is indebted to. Of course, whether this is for better or worse for North, he himself doesn't know, but we do, we're watching BL after all. I bet that Johan will not take any money from North and will use the situation to force North to get to know him and eventually like him, so all of this makes me accept that situation more easily than I would normally.
4. That being said, I absolutely feel for North and can understand why he's not ready to warm up to Johan yet. For such a young person who's struggling with money to begin with, to suddenly find himself in such a situation must be terrifying. I saw a complaint somewhere that North wanted to talk only about debt and interest in episode 7. Um, what else is he supposed to do, a debt of over 10000 € is not to be taken lightly. The Johan/North story, from what I've seen, will be slow-burn and I personally think that under the circumstances it can't be anything else.
And I really like that North is not swooning over Johan's good looks, but will make him work to win him over. North is by far my favourite character, I find him very charming and natural.
I'm repeating myself, but unlike many, I love the series, it's cute and it makes me smile. :)
After thinking a little more about it, this is my theory: if we separate ghost!Khem's story completely from the story of the Khem we saw at the end of episode 10 - first in the library when he bumped into Mas from 2020 and then when Toh asked him to go with them to Chiang Mai - the story does make sense.
I think what happened is that Khem, who is a talented writer and loves history and Chiang Mai, met Mas by accident with his Shakespeare book (who, as we know, likes writing tragic and impossible love stories) and either was attracted immediately to him or found him memorable enough to incorporate him into his story later. Then he got invited to accompany the other 4 to visit that historical house and write about it in order to promote it. As we saw in episode 1, he started visiting the library in Chiang Mai and learned some things about the history of the house and the people who have lived in it. Inspired and after the road accident, which definitely happened, although no one died, he created the entire story we saw, imagining himself as the main protagonist and choosing the boy with the Shakespeare book (yes, there has to have been some attraction, otherwise it would make no sense) as his love interest in an impossible love story that happened and was connected to the house he's supposed to promote. The baby Mas named after the moon at the end was still part of the story and therefore ghost!Khem's story ended up having a hopeful, although open, ending for the mains.
Outside Khem's story, the real Khem probably has approached Mas from 2020 and asked him to help him with the video in order to make the story he wrote a little livelier. Whether they would end up together or not in the real world is open for interpretations. :)
The ending was probably meant to be confusing and there is not a right or wrong answer, unless the script writers reveal it to us, but it seems to me that everything that happened was made up and scripted by Khem, because he loves writing, history, Chiang Mai, bumped into an attractive boy in the library who likes Shakespeare and used him as an inspiration for his story after completing the mission with the other 4 people in Chiang Mai. This is my interpretation of the ending.
I was a big fan of Bing and Toh and would've loved to see them together once again. This is probably the only thing I actively missed.
But anyway, it was a good mystery series and I'm glad I watched it.
The good thing is that Johan's seen the worst of North already and if he still wants him, then it has to be real love. ;)
Episode 3 is one of my favourites for many reasons, but LDQ's nuanced performance when he was trying to approach a boy who was somehow hostile, but still letting him tag along and still helping him is probably the biggest of them. He managed to portray feelings of confusion, frustration, sadness, real pain, apprehension, eagerness, hope, disappointment and so on and while drunk, he was opening up to Tian, telling him off, making demands and being cute all at once... best thing ever.
I watched parts of his live (the ones I could find with subs) and this guy loves Sheng Wang and seems to have really taken his time to understand the character and it shows on screen. I'm not saying he gets no recognition, because he does, I just feel it could be more.
1. Why does it seem to me that Dohoe keeps blaming Juyeong for what went wrong between them and not his horrible father? While I will never understand Juyeong keeping in touch with such a despicable person, especially after seeing how Dohoe was abused and getting quite a bit of abuse himself, Dohoe's treatment of him is abhorrent. From what I got from episode 5, he gave an explanation about why he's so mad, but I didn't get it, I'm just more confused than before.
2. Can they finally give a clear picture about what's going on between Dohoe and his ex-bully and now drinking buddy? Are they friends-with-benefits now and why does it seem so hard for Dohoe to dump him?
P.S. Never mind, at least question #1 has been cleared up after episode 6. Finally Dohoe expressed it they way he should have the day he left 12 years ago. Maybe if he had that mess wouldn't have happened.
Run has to be my favourite character in this series, because he actually has a somehow valid reason to behave the way he does. The rest of them, not so much, although I admit that Elyes and Pat are better now than they were at the beginning.