omg...every day and every interaction would be a minefield, as we already saw how loaded the limited physical contact among them was.
The film failed for me most in this regard: I felt zero emotional/romantic energy among ANY of them. There is no chemistry. I did not believe the ace guy is "in love" with both of the other guys, or even one of them. lol So, given that, it didn't work.
It was a cop-out not to show us how that sexual situation went down. Before all the prudes here shriek, that doesn't mean anything explicit has to be shown. But to show NOTHING of how these three worked through one of the most challenging aspects of throuple-dom, especially when one of the three is ace, was a total fail.
The ace guy will be moving back out in a month. I hope they can remain friends.
I am all for people being in whatever combinations of sexualities/genders/intimacy they want to be in, but for the vast majority of humans, multiple-partner relationships are going to be fraught with jealousy, constant negotiation, hyper-vigilance, etc. Exhausting. Humans, especially males, are territorial af. A relationship among multiples, with ever-shifting boundaries, attractions, and vibes, is a train wreck waiting to happen.
It is a fallacy that polyamory is some kind of new thing. It's been around for centuries, and openly practiced among a small minority in modern times in the West since at least the 1960s.
All the above aside, this film just isn't well-written, directed, or acted.
It is revealing that you reported my comment for calling you a "penultimate psycho" to the mods, especially since I called you that after YOU called me an "absolute freak." So, now YOU have been reported. Grow up and stop tattling to the teacher, particularly since you started the name calling.
Once again, your English comprehension is subpar. I did not say that "minor means below the age of consent." My point was that their status as LEGAL minors has zero relevance to what is or is not appropriate for them to portray in front of a camera.. Then, I repeated, more than once, that I was not demanding explicit sexual acts to be portrayed, anyway. And AGAIN, you ignored what I wrote, made stuff up,, and then responded to it.
I already covered your lazy Internet slang thing. Your hilarious insistence that you used "literally" in the hundreds-of-years-old tradition of the word as an intensifier is pathetic.
Is there someone in this exchange who mentioned "kissing in public?" Why do you keep responding to voices in your head and things I didn't write? Oh, because without those things, you haven't a leg to stand on.
Ask the Ladyboys, openly gay men, and sex tourism workers in Bangkok all about how offended they are by "overtly sexual" Western culture. lol
Oh, and do stop "fetishizing" young gay men with your "obsession" with their romantic/sexual lives and the BL genre. It's best you stop watching.
Nice little short film. Sad that the only way they can allow themselves to express what they feel for each other is through violence in the boxing ring.
Benjamin Tsang is noticeably talented. I hope to see his career take off soon. The other actor is good too, and looks great in those tightie-whities. His little butt nicely cradled in them near the beginning of the flick is a highlight of the film.
I don’t understand what you mean. What is it that you wanted to see?
Yeah, well, we established in our earlier interactions that you lack reading comprehension. If you're not going to use your eyes and brain when watching dramas, maybe stop watching, or at least stop commenting, to spare the rest of us.
Since you're pretending not to remember me, does this sound familiar? "Block me, weirdo."
I don’t understand what you mean. What is it that you wanted to see?
No, Lucky Star (and yes, I remember who you are from past arguments), I haven't forgotten my nationality or theirs. I seek out Asian films/dramas because I LIKE that they're Asian. I get enough of Americans here.
Try to focus, OK? There are a lot of options between three feet apart and sitting "on each other's laps." They could be one foot or six inches apart, but they're not, they are THREE FEET apart, which is odd, even for straight friends. Secondly, it was indicated they were going to kiss, Lucky. KISS! In public! Only a spilled pudding prevented it, as we knew something would. Clearly, the characters were not afraid to kiss despite being three feet apart, or...something. It was stupid and makes no consistent sense. And yet, here you are, chuckling and snorting at your imagined wisdom. lol
Seems pretty racist to say JP folks don't like to "hug," Lucky. Seems like they have to hug when they make babies, right? I mean, we saw these two do something that sort of/kind of looked like awkward baby-making several episodes back, yes? Who said anything about hugging anyway?
I have seen PLENTY of straight couples in JP films holding hands while walking down a street or on campus, btw. On the other hand, I am well aware of the JP sense of decorum and spatial awareness, at least in public. I laughed earlier in this episode because there were two scenes in which something tender/warm was shared, and then immediately one or the other character involved said "OK, go take a bath," or "OK, I'm off to bed." They come close emotionally, then run screaming in the opposite direction, which sometimes makes me smile or laugh, and other times makes me sad for them.
And oh, is this REALLY a JP series made for JP people? I had no idea. Thanks for reminding me. I will try to "accept" that right away. lol
I don’t think the dad got angry because he is gay, it was more that he has kept it a secret from him for so…
You're wrong. The dad hates that Shin is gay. And though he pretended to be angry that Shin never comes home, it's clear he never reached out to Shin to tell him he was MISSED at home. And he is extremely uncomfortable with visible emotion in males. He sees it as a sign of weakness. My dad was the same way. It is soul-crushing to grow up being told to stifle your feelings all the time.
And yes, many gay men feel emotions more deeply than straight men, and there is nothing wrong with it. On the contrary, that emotionality is often part-and-parcel with the creativity/sensitivity/compassion for others that makes us who we are. Being told to stifle that is pure abuse. I would have preferred a slap across the face.
I don’t understand what you mean. What is it that you wanted to see?
You are correct. It is downright off-putting how prudish and frail Shin still acts at this point in their relationship. The story tells us there has been growth, but it's not being SHOWN by the actions/behaviors/demeanors of the characters, where it should be self-evident by now. So, there's a feeling of oddness in scenes like near the end where they sat on that bench for a snack while waiting for the boat, THREE FEET apart. Then, that weird kiss where they were supposedly leaning in from THREE FEET apart, but we all knew something would prevent the kiss, and of course, a pudding cup fell to the ground! And we're supposed to think it was cute.
"I'm just a stubborn old man." Truer words were never spoken. I'm kind of sick of the old JP BL trope regarding rigid, shut-down, emotionally abusive dads who snarl and yap at family members like frustrated Yakuza, but who we're expected to sigh and go "awww..." at when a mother or sister says, "In his own way..." blah blah blah. Yes, in his own way, he's a douche bag and needs to snap out of it and change, or stfu. And no, that process does NOT happen during one sentimental/nostalgic chat by a charming, gurgling stream.
Mom and sis joining Shin for an impromptu slumber party in his room was a delightful, authentic-feeling surprise. Thank god for the females in our families, or most of us gay men might not have made it.
Sadly, I've liked Shin and Kosuke less and less with each episode. I don't DIS-like them; but they aren't the weird-ish, lovable goofballs I initially found them to be in episodes 1-4. And they continue to act awkwardly uneasy in their physical interactions. The charm is gone, and it's been replaced by frustration that they don't seem to have grown much. Shin seems like this pasty, slightly creepy, shrinking violet, who never goes out in the sun. It would make more sense if they worked in a vampire subplot to explain that issue.
What on Earth are you on about? I am not the least bit "upset," but you seem to be. lol What "page?" I'm not a drama or movie; I don't have a "page."
You intruded on THIS page with a long, punctuation/capitalization/sentence-free rant, spewing spittle at the moon. Why would I "respect" that? Perhaps you should have ranted at whoever recommended the flick to you. :D
I responded, light-heartedly, with two lines of Taylor Swift lyrics that fit your comment perfectly. But, here you are ranting again, though this time with sentences, punctuation, and capital letters. Were you high when you left the original comment, which contains none of these compositional elements?
Ranting like a crazy person about this film, in one endless sentence with no punctuation or capitalization, when you could easily have just stopped watching at any point.
This was somewhat better as a movie than a series, but still needed more sex. :) Showing us some really passionate, intimate, emotionally connective sex, would have made it hit much harder when Seung Hyun found out what he found out about Jong Chan's past.
And speaking of that...the issue was a pretty lame one to hang out there as a reason for SH to pull back. Doing so made him seem exceedingly immature and petty. The character IS somewhat the former, but not at all the latter. At most, it might be something a reasonable person would feel a little icky over for a couple days, but if you're falling for someone like JC, it doesn't ring true as a reason to put off the relationship. Needed a higher-stakes reason for that pull-back.
Also, SH's cutesy/shy/little boy schtick/affectations were somewhat cute at the beginning, but wore thin as the film progressed. He was growing professionally and personally; it made no sense for that goofiness to last right up until the last frame.
Finally, it was wild to see in the after-credits scene, how much just putting him in sweats and a ballcap changed Kwon Hyuk's looks from hard-ass manager to young, average (but very handsome) Joe. :D
It was cute and sweet and fluffy. But, the reason for the “drama/problem” in the story was kinda ridiculous.…
Your solution sounds like a MUCH more interesting approach than what we got here. I liked this pretty well (7.5/10), but a higher-stakes plot, as you describe, would have been even better. :)
The film failed for me most in this regard: I felt zero emotional/romantic energy among ANY of them. There is no chemistry. I did not believe the ace guy is "in love" with both of the other guys, or even one of them. lol So, given that, it didn't work.
It was a cop-out not to show us how that sexual situation went down. Before all the prudes here shriek, that doesn't mean anything explicit has to be shown. But to show NOTHING of how these three worked through one of the most challenging aspects of throuple-dom, especially when one of the three is ace, was a total fail.
The ace guy will be moving back out in a month. I hope they can remain friends.
I am all for people being in whatever combinations of sexualities/genders/intimacy they want to be in, but for the vast majority of humans, multiple-partner relationships are going to be fraught with jealousy, constant negotiation, hyper-vigilance, etc. Exhausting. Humans, especially males, are territorial af. A relationship among multiples, with ever-shifting boundaries, attractions, and vibes, is a train wreck waiting to happen.
It is a fallacy that polyamory is some kind of new thing. It's been around for centuries, and openly practiced among a small minority in modern times in the West since at least the 1960s.
All the above aside, this film just isn't well-written, directed, or acted.
4/10
It is revealing that you reported my comment for calling you a "penultimate psycho" to the mods, especially since I called you that after YOU called me an "absolute freak." So, now YOU have been reported. Grow up and stop tattling to the teacher, particularly since you started the name calling.
Once again, your English comprehension is subpar. I did not say that "minor means below the age of consent." My point was that their status as LEGAL minors has zero relevance to what is or is not appropriate for them to portray in front of a camera.. Then, I repeated, more than once, that I was not demanding explicit sexual acts to be portrayed, anyway. And AGAIN, you ignored what I wrote, made stuff up,, and then responded to it.
I already covered your lazy Internet slang thing. Your hilarious insistence that you used "literally" in the hundreds-of-years-old tradition of the word as an intensifier is pathetic.
Is there someone in this exchange who mentioned "kissing in public?" Why do you keep responding to voices in your head and things I didn't write? Oh, because without those things, you haven't a leg to stand on.
Ask the Ladyboys, openly gay men, and sex tourism workers in Bangkok all about how offended they are by "overtly sexual" Western culture. lol
Oh, and do stop "fetishizing" young gay men with your "obsession" with their romantic/sexual lives and the BL genre. It's best you stop watching.
https://mydramalist.com/9658-night-flight
If you haven't seen it, please give it a go. Here, I'll help. (see below):
Sad that the only way they can allow themselves to express what they feel for each other is through violence in the boxing ring.
Benjamin Tsang is noticeably talented. I hope to see his career take off soon. The other actor is good too, and looks great in those tightie-whities. His little butt nicely cradled in them near the beginning of the flick is a highlight of the film.
Well-shot, well-acted, well-directed, well-done.
8.5/10
Since you're pretending not to remember me, does this sound familiar?
"Block me, weirdo."
Please do. Block me, that is.
Try to focus, OK? There are a lot of options between three feet apart and sitting "on each other's laps." They could be one foot or six inches apart, but they're not, they are THREE FEET apart, which is odd, even for straight friends. Secondly, it was indicated they were going to kiss, Lucky. KISS! In public! Only a spilled pudding prevented it, as we knew something would. Clearly, the characters were not afraid to kiss despite being three feet apart, or...something. It was stupid and makes no consistent sense. And yet, here you are, chuckling and snorting at your imagined wisdom. lol
Seems pretty racist to say JP folks don't like to "hug," Lucky. Seems like they have to hug when they make babies, right? I mean, we saw these two do something that sort of/kind of looked like awkward baby-making several episodes back, yes? Who said anything about hugging anyway?
I have seen PLENTY of straight couples in JP films holding hands while walking down a street or on campus, btw. On the other hand, I am well aware of the JP sense of decorum and spatial awareness, at least in public. I laughed earlier in this episode because there were two scenes in which something tender/warm was shared, and then immediately one or the other character involved said "OK, go take a bath," or "OK, I'm off to bed." They come close emotionally, then run screaming in the opposite direction, which sometimes makes me smile or laugh, and other times makes me sad for them.
And oh, is this REALLY a JP series made for JP people? I had no idea. Thanks for reminding me. I will try to "accept" that right away. lol
And yes, many gay men feel emotions more deeply than straight men, and there is nothing wrong with it. On the contrary, that emotionality is often part-and-parcel with the creativity/sensitivity/compassion for others that makes us who we are. Being told to stifle that is pure abuse. I would have preferred a slap across the face.
Oh wait, I got that too.
It is downright off-putting how prudish and frail Shin still acts at this point in their relationship. The story tells us there has been growth, but it's not being SHOWN by the actions/behaviors/demeanors of the characters, where it should be self-evident by now. So, there's a feeling of oddness in scenes like near the end where they sat on that bench for a snack while waiting for the boat, THREE FEET apart. Then, that weird kiss where they were supposedly leaning in from THREE FEET apart, but we all knew something would prevent the kiss, and of course, a pudding cup fell to the ground! And we're supposed to think it was cute.
It wasn't.
"I'm just a stubborn old man." Truer words were never spoken.
I'm kind of sick of the old JP BL trope regarding rigid, shut-down, emotionally abusive dads who snarl and yap at family members like frustrated Yakuza, but who we're expected to sigh and go "awww..." at when a mother or sister says, "In his own way..." blah blah blah. Yes, in his own way, he's a douche bag and needs to snap out of it and change, or stfu. And no, that process does NOT happen during one sentimental/nostalgic chat by a charming, gurgling stream.
Mom and sis joining Shin for an impromptu slumber party in his room was a delightful, authentic-feeling surprise. Thank god for the females in our families, or most of us gay men might not have made it.
Sadly, I've liked Shin and Kosuke less and less with each episode. I don't DIS-like them; but they aren't the weird-ish, lovable goofballs I initially found them to be in episodes 1-4. And they continue to act awkwardly uneasy in their physical interactions. The charm is gone, and it's been replaced by frustration that they don't seem to have grown much. Shin seems like this pasty, slightly creepy, shrinking violet, who never goes out in the sun. It would make more sense if they worked in a vampire subplot to explain that issue.
I am not the least bit "upset," but you seem to be. lol
What "page?" I'm not a drama or movie; I don't have a "page."
You intruded on THIS page with a long, punctuation/capitalization/sentence-free rant, spewing spittle at the moon. Why would I "respect" that? Perhaps you should have ranted at whoever recommended the flick to you. :D
I responded, light-heartedly, with two lines of Taylor Swift lyrics that fit your comment perfectly. But, here you are ranting again, though this time with sentences, punctuation, and capital letters. Were you high when you left the original comment, which contains none of these compositional elements?
Never mind.
And speaking of that...the issue was a pretty lame one to hang out there as a reason for SH to pull back. Doing so made him seem exceedingly immature and petty. The character IS somewhat the former, but not at all the latter. At most, it might be something a reasonable person would feel a little icky over for a couple days, but if you're falling for someone like JC, it doesn't ring true as a reason to put off the relationship. Needed a higher-stakes reason for that pull-back.
Also, SH's cutesy/shy/little boy schtick/affectations were somewhat cute at the beginning, but wore thin as the film progressed. He was growing professionally and personally; it made no sense for that goofiness to last right up until the last frame.
Finally, it was wild to see in the after-credits scene, how much just putting him in sweats and a ballcap changed Kwon Hyuk's looks from hard-ass manager to young, average (but very handsome) Joe. :D
8/10