Blessed are the weird people - poets, misfits, writers, mystics, heretics, painters and troubadours- for they…
"I don't expect anyone to see as big a picture as I do - most can't." hahaha
Oh look! A rando egomaniac on the Internet. That's new. An economics whiz! A genius! lol
Trashing Thai BLs is not speaking "so poorly of one of my favorite cultures." It is speaking poorly of one, tiny element of Thai culture. Like most unbalanced cyber know-it-alls, you don't know much.
Blessed are the weird people - poets, misfits, writers, mystics, heretics, painters and troubadours- for they…
Good god. So they're turning out 30 crappy shows a week because they HAVE TO, the producers in Thailand have zero control over what they make or how often they make it.
Blessed are the weird people - poets, misfits, writers, mystics, heretics, painters and troubadours- for they…
I don't owe Thailand anything. I loved and watched many of its BLs until 2020 when they turned to shit for the very clear reason that quantity is now all that matters there.
I don't spend my time fishing around in toilet bowls for pearls that just might, sooner or later, be there. If they are, I'll hear about it and watch then.
Understood. I would say if you really like the Japanese version, it's definitely hard for you to like the Thai…
Ever hear of the Internet, little person claiming to be Thai? I have as much access to demographic information about Thailand on these issues as do you. And the fact that I'm not living in the middle of Thailand with an agenda to push like you, means I'm far more objective on the matter.
Please provide links to the research information on which you base your BS above. Since you don't have any, maybe zip it. What your limited number of Thai friends say doesn't count.
You sound immature. Do you hate Korea? It's a bit arbitrary. And why do you bluntly call him "Yoo", if you respect…
hahahahaha..."immature."
No, I don't "hate Korea," but I'm pretty sure I hate you. You should move to Korea and become a full-time cog in the Korean celebrity suicide machine. They'd welcome you.
Apparently, you're a fan of Korea's insane drug laws, in which case you're delusional and vindictive. If you're really an American from New Jersey you should be ashamed of yourself. America doesn't treat people like Yoo, who are sick, the way Korea does.
His name is Yoo Ah In. If I want to call him by the affectionate nickname "Yoo" as I often do, I don't give a fuck what you think about it.
Who said anything about "cutting ties with Korea," you numbskull? Not releasing a film or two there is far from "cutting ties." And Netflix's world-wide reach is so vast that the tiny # of Korean subscribers who would not get to see the films of celebrities they're trying to drive to suicide is a drop in the bucket. Netflix would likely GAIN world-wide subscribers if it made it clear it will treat Yoo and others in his situation as human beings with an illness, not someone who should spend four years in jail as if he were a vicious criminal.
See all those "likes" on my comment above, loser? It pleases me to know that at least on the topic of Korea's barbaric treatment of Yoo Ah In, far more MDLers agree with me than you, you hateful dunce.
Episode1: This is silly and stupid and potentially lame, but what's making it possibly OK for me is that the leads are young MEN, not pretty little boys. The acting, though they don't have much to work with, is good. Also, it helps that there are no yellow, brown, auburn, or other bad dye jobs in sight.
For some insane reason beyond my comprehension, I was even charmed by the very badly-performed pseudo-kpop idol dance and ensuing silliness during credits. This along with what I wrote above, indicates the key here is the ever-elusive "heart," which almost no Thai BLs that attempt this type of thing, have.
We'll see how this goes...
Episodes 2 & 3: ummm...I think rather than drive him home, he should have considered driving him to a psychiatric facility. The young dentist is the cutest, but the rich kid is a close second. Speaking of which, isn't someone here going to shriek "PEDOPHILIA!?" As for handsomeness, it's the bar owner. That may be the most defined chin/jaw line I have ever seen. How is it possible that out of seven gay male cast members, only one can dance?
Moving on....
Episode 4: Trope-fest fail. Four or five of them and nothing original or funny about their execution. Which is too bad, because otherwise this show is more good than bad to this point.
No idea how this will go...could still be a drop.
I do like the short-term, mini-flashbacks that explain something we recently saw. I've not seen it done quite this way before.
I just will never understand using standard, age-old, boring BL tropes like trip/fall/catch/stare, get wet/get fever/make porridge/take medicine, bandage-a-cut, and all the rest. What is the point of repeating these not just tired, but dead old stand-bys, especially when they are not done as parodies? They're annoying.
Episode 5: This is alternately delightful and boring. It gets tedious for me when every single character is gay already. :D This is the slowest, least-frequented dentist office I have ever seen. No way it could keep going on "two hours til the next appointment." lol I am now in love with Mr. Chi. As an American, I find it delightful when characters slip in an english word of phrase here and there with what sounds to my ear like standard, Middle-American English with no Asian accent. lol When the Koreans or Japanese do it the accents are thick. Hong Kongers slip in English in much the same way but with an accent. Linguistics is fun! :D
Episode 6: Wow. Each new one really is hotter than the last one. :) The whole setting the guy you're in love with up with women thing is kind of not working for me. This is showing a lot of mid vibe right now. It feels like a better-than-average, better-acted Thai BL with a bigger budget for extras, except in the office which is more like a museum. Why do lower-budget BLs so often way OVER-light their sets?
Episode 7: I've begun skipping ahead. Too slow. Way too much invented drama based on absurd misunderstandings. Someone says to you "and what if I've found the one already?" with his lips a quarter-inch from yours and you think he's talking about someone else? Please. Disappointing.
Episodes 8 & 9: Improvement! Ep 9's smooching made everything that came before, even the lame stuff, worth it.
Episodes 10-12: Meh. It's OK, not terrible, not great. See above comment for a little more. 7.5/10
MDL is weird though. 7.9 is a relatively high rating here. I don't think I've ever seen a show hit 9/10. Have…
Even though to me, based on the synopsis, it sounds like a silly Thai BL, and I can't stand 99% of Thai BLs past 2020, I'm about to give it a try based on a recommendation.
It seems like MDL ratings stay between 6.5 and 8.5 and people get worked up about 1/10 of a point's difference one way or the other. lol To me, 7.9 is a solid B rating which is a good thing.
On the other hand, MDL ratings also tend to over or under rate in my estimation so I generally pay little attention.
I was going to watch this but, I wish commenters would not give parts of the plot away without spoiler alerts…
MDLers are bad about that. Very annoying and at times enraging. There are some who clearly enjoy posting spoilers and then pretending they don't know why others are pissed off about it.
Yes, it made no sense to leave all the drama just for the last episode, and I don't get it...was beating the crap…
Why do you see it as being shown to be "normal behavior?" Just because someone does something fucked up in a drama doesn't mean it's normal or being promoted.
I watched just after reading these comments & I did giggle when I realised I was witnessing the longest ever slip/fall/catch…
hahaha I don't mind tropes so much when they do something amusing or creative with it, like making the hold last for five minutes. I was impressed that the actors were able to hold their gaze so long without blinking or changing expressions. :) So I'm guessing the five-minute hold was a spoof/satire of the trope.
Now we need something truly revolutionary and trope-breaking, like having the muscular one who caught the other guy turn out to be the bottom. :)
I often don't mind the seat belt trope these days when it's done with style, because it is a deliberate tease and assertion of dominance rather than a fake "accident."
Understood. I would say if you really like the Japanese version, it's definitely hard for you to like the Thai…
What a stupendously dim-witted comment. I did laugh a few times at the parts where you pretend to speak for all people in various sections of Thai society who don't want to see this, or do want to see this, or blah blah blah....
Why on Earth is this film, which sounds like exactly my kind of vibe, impossible to find on the Internet with Eng subs, or without for that matter? Meanwhile, thousands of lesser films are available with subs all over the place.
Oh goodness...that ending is tough to take. What an excellent cast. Shin Ha Kyun has evolved into my favorite actor, top of my Best 30 list. I think Won Bin would be on that list had he stuck around the industry and made more movies. That said, I'm glad he got out of it at his choice and not before Korea's poisonous celeb-crucifixion culture drove him out or worse. Kim Hae Sook has long been on my fave actresses list. Always a joy to watch.
Heartbreaking film but I'm glad I've watched it...twice now.
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Oh look! A rando egomaniac on the Internet. That's new. An economics whiz! A genius! lol
Trashing Thai BLs is not speaking "so poorly of one of my favorite cultures." It is speaking poorly of one, tiny element of Thai culture. Like most unbalanced cyber know-it-alls, you don't know much.
Sure, got it.
I don't spend my time fishing around in toilet bowls for pearls that just might, sooner or later, be there. If they are, I'll hear about it and watch then.
Please provide links to the research information on which you base your BS above. Since you don't have any, maybe zip it. What your limited number of Thai friends say doesn't count.
No, I don't "hate Korea," but I'm pretty sure I hate you. You should move to Korea and become a full-time cog in the Korean celebrity suicide machine. They'd welcome you.
Apparently, you're a fan of Korea's insane drug laws, in which case you're delusional and vindictive. If you're really an American from New Jersey you should be ashamed of yourself. America doesn't treat people like Yoo, who are sick, the way Korea does.
His name is Yoo Ah In. If I want to call him by the affectionate nickname "Yoo" as I often do, I don't give a fuck what you think about it.
Who said anything about "cutting ties with Korea," you numbskull? Not releasing a film or two there is far from "cutting ties." And Netflix's world-wide reach is so vast that the tiny # of Korean subscribers who would not get to see the films of celebrities they're trying to drive to suicide is a drop in the bucket. Netflix would likely GAIN world-wide subscribers if it made it clear it will treat Yoo and others in his situation as human beings with an illness, not someone who should spend four years in jail as if he were a vicious criminal.
See all those "likes" on my comment above, loser? It pleases me to know that at least on the topic of Korea's barbaric treatment of Yoo Ah In, far more MDLers agree with me than you, you hateful dunce.
Free Yoo! Release his films, Netflix!
This is silly and stupid and potentially lame, but what's making it possibly OK for me is that the leads are young MEN, not pretty little boys. The acting, though they don't have much to work with, is good. Also, it helps that there are no yellow, brown, auburn, or other bad dye jobs in sight.
For some insane reason beyond my comprehension, I was even charmed by the very badly-performed pseudo-kpop idol dance and ensuing silliness during credits. This along with what I wrote above, indicates the key here is the ever-elusive "heart," which almost no Thai BLs that attempt this type of thing, have.
We'll see how this goes...
Episodes 2 & 3:
ummm...I think rather than drive him home, he should have considered driving him to a psychiatric facility.
The young dentist is the cutest, but the rich kid is a close second.
Speaking of which, isn't someone here going to shriek "PEDOPHILIA!?"
As for handsomeness, it's the bar owner. That may be the most defined chin/jaw line I have ever seen.
How is it possible that out of seven gay male cast members, only one can dance?
Moving on....
Episode 4:
Trope-fest fail. Four or five of them and nothing original or funny about their execution.
Which is too bad, because otherwise this show is more good than bad to this point.
No idea how this will go...could still be a drop.
I do like the short-term, mini-flashbacks that explain something we recently saw. I've not seen it done quite this way before.
I just will never understand using standard, age-old, boring BL tropes like trip/fall/catch/stare, get wet/get fever/make porridge/take medicine, bandage-a-cut, and all the rest. What is the point of repeating these not just tired, but dead old stand-bys, especially when they are not done as parodies? They're annoying.
Episode 5:
This is alternately delightful and boring.
It gets tedious for me when every single character is gay already. :D
This is the slowest, least-frequented dentist office I have ever seen. No way it could keep going on "two hours til the next appointment." lol
I am now in love with Mr. Chi.
As an American, I find it delightful when characters slip in an english word of phrase here and there with what sounds to my ear like standard, Middle-American English with no Asian accent. lol When the Koreans or Japanese do it the accents are thick. Hong Kongers slip in English in much the same way but with an accent. Linguistics is fun! :D
Episode 6:
Wow. Each new one really is hotter than the last one. :)
The whole setting the guy you're in love with up with women thing is kind of not working for me.
This is showing a lot of mid vibe right now. It feels like a better-than-average, better-acted Thai BL with a bigger budget for extras, except in the office which is more like a museum.
Why do lower-budget BLs so often way OVER-light their sets?
Episode 7:
I've begun skipping ahead. Too slow. Way too much invented drama based on absurd misunderstandings. Someone says to you "and what if I've found the one already?" with his lips a quarter-inch from yours and you think he's talking about someone else? Please.
Disappointing.
Episodes 8 & 9:
Improvement!
Ep 9's smooching made everything that came before, even the lame stuff, worth it.
Episodes 10-12:
Meh. It's OK, not terrible, not great. See above comment for a little more.
7.5/10
It seems like MDL ratings stay between 6.5 and 8.5 and people get worked up about 1/10 of a point's difference one way or the other. lol To me, 7.9 is a solid B rating which is a good thing.
On the other hand, MDL ratings also tend to over or under rate in my estimation so I generally pay little attention.
I don't mind tropes so much when they do something amusing or creative with it, like making the hold last for five minutes. I was impressed that the actors were able to hold their gaze so long without blinking or changing expressions. :) So I'm guessing the five-minute hold was a spoof/satire of the trope.
Now we need something truly revolutionary and trope-breaking, like having the muscular one who caught the other guy turn out to be the bottom. :)
I often don't mind the seat belt trope these days when it's done with style, because it is a deliberate tease and assertion of dominance rather than a fake "accident."
You are a humorless child.
What an excellent cast. Shin Ha Kyun has evolved into my favorite actor, top of my Best 30 list. I think Won Bin would be on that list had he stuck around the industry and made more movies. That said, I'm glad he got out of it at his choice and not before Korea's poisonous celeb-crucifixion culture drove him out or worse.
Kim Hae Sook has long been on my fave actresses list. Always a joy to watch.
Heartbreaking film but I'm glad I've watched it...twice now.
8.5/10
No chemistry, terrible acting, so I'm out at 20 minutes. It can only get worse.
Dropped.
1/10