In a story like this you just have to turn your brain off. Half of these people would be in prison if this was…
Yeah, I would enjoy these bullying plots a great deal more (and there are some good ones) if the writers would work harder. This thing with just throwing up their hands and saying "well, we can't figure out a way to tell a bullying plot that includes actual teachers, parents, and administrators because we're too lazy, so let's just not gaf and invent a universe in which they just aren't ever around but for no discernible reason. We'll hire a great fight coordinator and triple the violence instead!" :)
Have you seen the epic fight scene near the end of the Korean film, "Night Flight?" A former bully-turned-decent guy goes ballistic on a few dudes for good reason. It takes place in classrooms and a hallway and teachers are present, but the ones who try to step in get the shit knocked out of them too because they've been looking the other way and letting the bullying go on the entire movie. Everything about that scene is incredibly real. Great flick.
I'm not naming names. Doing so would bring down a torrent of hysterical abuse from fangurls denying it. Besides, my statement is based only on my own observations, not something I read on Dispatch or Koreaboo.
You're free to like and watch as you wish, of course, but this attitude is why Korean BL is dying: lack of standards.…
Where to start? Encouraging you to enjoy your show in no way conflicts with saying your choice to enjoy this one indicates low standards. The show can be of low quality and you can enjoy it. Both things can be true. The problem here is not my "superiority" complex, but your inferiority complex. Just enjoy your show and forget some rando on MDL said anything about it.
lol Yeah, I just read your second paragraph. You definitely should think about working on that inferiority thing. Gosh, like, I had NO idea people can have different standards and enjoy different shows for different reasons. Like, that is a revelation to me. You are a genius.
In reality what you think you just pronounced as a profound observation was pretty much my point made above: You can enjoy your low-standards shows and I can enjoy my high-standards shows. It's a win-win! I don't see the problem here.
"Sorry if my joy doesn't fit your precious criteria." lol This wild over-reaction is revealing. I don't care about your joy. Just go feel it and consider stopping feeling that you must defend your tastes to Internet randos. Touchy.
Weird with telling me to check your profile to prove your tastes in shows are...something. I don't care about your tastes, other than to the extent they encourage the production of more and more low-quality BLs.
In a story like this you just have to turn your brain off. Half of these people would be in prison if this was…
This aspect didn't seem quite as blatantly ignored in WHC1. I don't care for brainless watches, and I watched that one twice. But maybe I misremember it. Yeah, I'm only two and a half episodes into this one, and I needed a break. It's evolving into just another Asian gang fight thing like the 500 before it.
The "Baku" character is about as much a cardboard cut-out/cliche, school gang leader (good guy version) as you're ever going to see. The actor is over-playing, and not in a good way. Same goes for the leader of the loser, phone-stealing gang. He is a caricature. I don't recall this being a major problem in season 1. But as I said, perhaps I misremember.
Which reminds me of another blatant stupidity here: Three-quarters of the school's students have had their phones stolen, and not one parent has raised a fuss with the administration, and the school has done nothing to stop it. Plus, the school has dedicated a room for the phone-stealers to meet in and hide the stolen goods. Right...
WHC1 was much more emotional and cerebral. This one is feeling much more Hong Kong Kung Fu Fighting-ish.
So far, meh. This lacks the soul of the original. To this point, it feels like your basic high school gang/bully flick, focused much more on style than substance.
I always hate to see another Korean actor who was naturally handsome but somehow found it necessary to undergo a nose job. The end result is identical to a thousand other noses in K-entertainment.
Episode 1: I'll keep asking this question until I get a plausible answer. If you can help, please do: Where are the freaking teachers, administrators, custodians, or any adult authority figures at all? Do these positions not exist in Korean schools? Are ALL of them intimidated into avoidance and silence toward the bullies? Do NONE of the bullied kids tell their parents, who then come to the school and raise holy Hell?
I love a good HS bullying story, but this is the question I always run up against. The lack of an answer takes a lot of oomph out of the story, because it is no longer believable. Surely some creative writing team could solve this problem for me, but apparently, not.
Jin Hwan wants him so bad, lol. I'm glad we got clarity on the phone call. The thing is, as I said before, Min…
The conversation we were shown the second time was completely different from what we heard the first time around. Same with the conversation between Jin Hwan and his friend outside that deli where the friends met and Min Joo watched the two of them talk through the window. The first time they were up against the glass with JH's friend's arm around his shoulder, face-to-face in an intimate way. This second time they're standing ten feet from the glass, facing each other directly, and not touching. That's not a misinterpretation of one event, that's two entirely different scenarios.
Same thing with the phone call. The dialogue is way different the second time from the first time. The idea being presented has potential but the ability to execute it is beyond this writing/directing team.
2 eps to go Why drag that stupid misunderstanding. Let them be together already. By looking at the preview it…
If they were already together, the show would be boring. Not that it's not boring anyway, but for different reasons. The story is about them being apart because of different perspectives on shared experiences. Unfortunately, it is written and directed badly.
I actually find years of very close friendships more important than the person I'm just starting to date. Friends…
Everything you said again, except one tiny correction: Jin didn't even bother to close the bedroom door. It was standing wide open. The show is poorly written and directed.
The lameness continues. The show lacks energy, which compounds all the other problems I won't go into because there are too many of them to deal with in one comment.
The script wants to play with the way we all remember things differently, but it's the script that undercuts that concept. In numerous flashbacks, the particulars of what we see from Jin Hwan's perspective have been changed significantly from what we saw ourselves from Min Jun's viewpoint. Characters are in different positions, placed differently, and even speak different lines than we specifically heard the first time around.
The show fails at presenting ONE incident from opposing angles because it changes the incident itself when it shows it a second time. There is no room for opposing interpretations of the event because the FACTS of the event are not the same. We see two guys talking intimately, one's arm around the other's shoulder as they lean in close, face to face, while snuggled up against a window. Then, when we see the event a second time, they are multiple feet away from the window, not side-to-side but facing each other, and neither has his arm around the other.
It's like one person saying, "I saw Bill and Sam making out while laying on the hood of a car in the parking garage at 8pm last night" and another person saying, "Oh really? Cause at 8pm last night I saw them at the arcade across town fishing the 425,000th BL Korean Teddy Bear out of a machine." Then the two people look at each other and say, "Gosh, I wonder how we both misinterpreted that one event?" That's what's wrong with this show.
Oh well...it's not like any of this matters. BAU is another Korean BL I'll forget by next week.
Not to be the usual party pooper that I am, but haven't we seen the "let's go shopping, try on silly hats/glasses/other…
That is true! DBW's one-note facial expression has become increasingly annoying as the show moves on. I have a feeling it's not the actor's choice; that he is more talented than that, but that's what the director has instructed him to do. It's a mistake. He comes off not frustrated, or confused, or lovelorn, but...apathetic; as if he doesn't much care one way or the other.
When he looks into the face of the young man he has loved most of his life, we ought to see that in his own face, but we don't. Or I don't. I see pretty much nothing.
Since you're Here For The BL, please let me know if you're watching something good I don't know about. I'm so desperate I'm even open to Thai shows again. The only other BL on my current watchlist is Business As Usual, which is...bad.
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Have you seen the epic fight scene near the end of the Korean film, "Night Flight?" A former bully-turned-decent guy goes ballistic on a few dudes for good reason. It takes place in classrooms and a hallway and teachers are present, but the ones who try to step in get the shit knocked out of them too because they've been looking the other way and letting the bullying go on the entire movie. Everything about that scene is incredibly real. Great flick.
Besides, my statement is based only on my own observations, not something I read on Dispatch or Koreaboo.
Encouraging you to enjoy your show in no way conflicts with saying your choice to enjoy this one indicates low standards. The show can be of low quality and you can enjoy it. Both things can be true. The problem here is not my "superiority" complex, but your inferiority complex. Just enjoy your show and forget some rando on MDL said anything about it.
lol Yeah, I just read your second paragraph. You definitely should think about working on that inferiority thing. Gosh, like, I had NO idea people can have different standards and enjoy different shows for different reasons. Like, that is a revelation to me. You are a genius.
In reality what you think you just pronounced as a profound observation was pretty much my point made above: You can enjoy your low-standards shows and I can enjoy my high-standards shows. It's a win-win! I don't see the problem here.
"Sorry if my joy doesn't fit your precious criteria." lol This wild over-reaction is revealing. I don't care about your joy. Just go feel it and consider stopping feeling that you must defend your tastes to Internet randos. Touchy.
Weird with telling me to check your profile to prove your tastes in shows are...something. I don't care about your tastes, other than to the extent they encourage the production of more and more low-quality BLs.
Was that "judgy?"
Yeah, I'm only two and a half episodes into this one, and I needed a break. It's evolving into just another Asian gang fight thing like the 500 before it.
The "Baku" character is about as much a cardboard cut-out/cliche, school gang leader (good guy version) as you're ever going to see. The actor is over-playing, and not in a good way. Same goes for the leader of the loser, phone-stealing gang. He is a caricature. I don't recall this being a major problem in season 1. But as I said, perhaps I misremember.
Which reminds me of another blatant stupidity here: Three-quarters of the school's students have had their phones stolen, and not one parent has raised a fuss with the administration, and the school has done nothing to stop it. Plus, the school has dedicated a room for the phone-stealers to meet in and hide the stolen goods. Right...
WHC1 was much more emotional and cerebral. This one is feeling much more Hong Kong Kung Fu Fighting-ish.
Time for a break ten minutes in...cardboard/cliche character alert.
I assume I will finish the series but am in no rush to do so.
So far, meh. This lacks the soul of the original.
To this point, it feels like your basic high school gang/bully flick, focused much more on style than substance.
I always hate to see another Korean actor who was naturally handsome but somehow found it necessary to undergo a nose job. The end result is identical to a thousand other noses in K-entertainment.
I'll keep asking this question until I get a plausible answer. If you can help, please do:
Where are the freaking teachers, administrators, custodians, or any adult authority figures at all? Do these positions not exist in Korean schools?
Are ALL of them intimidated into avoidance and silence toward the bullies?
Do NONE of the bullied kids tell their parents, who then come to the school and raise holy Hell?
I love a good HS bullying story, but this is the question I always run up against. The lack of an answer takes a lot of oomph out of the story, because it is no longer believable. Surely some creative writing team could solve this problem for me, but apparently, not.
What BL are you watching?
Same thing with the phone call. The dialogue is way different the second time from the first time. The idea being presented has potential but the ability to execute it is beyond this writing/directing team.
The lameness continues. The show lacks energy, which compounds all the other problems I won't go into because there are too many of them to deal with in one comment.
The script wants to play with the way we all remember things differently, but it's the script that undercuts that concept. In numerous flashbacks, the particulars of what we see from Jin Hwan's perspective have been changed significantly from what we saw ourselves from Min Jun's viewpoint. Characters are in different positions, placed differently, and even speak different lines than we specifically heard the first time around.
The show fails at presenting ONE incident from opposing angles because it changes the incident itself when it shows it a second time. There is no room for opposing interpretations of the event because the FACTS of the event are not the same. We see two guys talking intimately, one's arm around the other's shoulder as they lean in close, face to face, while snuggled up against a window. Then, when we see the event a second time, they are multiple feet away from the window, not side-to-side but facing each other, and neither has his arm around the other.
It's like one person saying, "I saw Bill and Sam making out while laying on the hood of a car in the parking garage at 8pm last night" and another person saying, "Oh really? Cause at 8pm last night I saw them at the arcade across town fishing the 425,000th BL Korean Teddy Bear out of a machine."
Then the two people look at each other and say, "Gosh, I wonder how we both misinterpreted that one event?" That's what's wrong with this show.
Oh well...it's not like any of this matters. BAU is another Korean BL I'll forget by next week.
When he looks into the face of the young man he has loved most of his life, we ought to see that in his own face, but we don't. Or I don't. I see pretty much nothing.
Since you're Here For The BL, please let me know if you're watching something good I don't know about. I'm so desperate I'm even open to Thai shows again. The only other BL on my current watchlist is Business As Usual, which is...bad.