"...can be harsh at times...?" Knetz regularly drive idols and actors to suicide with their relentless online abuse, lies, and rumor-mongering. It's been nine months since they killed Lee Sun Kyun so we're due for another "extreme choice" any day now...
Just keep dreaming! You have your opinions and preferences, it is good! But there is no need to force it on others!…
Awfully hostile for someone so convinced this is a great series. nama2sama made a direct statement, free of insults or disrespect of any kind. Nama's no hater, but you are a moron, willing to accept any crap thailand or taiwan throws at you and calls a BL.
I give a shit what nama's rating is and so do a lot of other discerning people here. Go take a Xanax.
Just completed ep 12..And I am crying that it is already over..I know many of the people are angry bcz of the…
You're one of the people I mentioned in a comment above. At heart, you are uncomfortable with gay love and gay sex, so the FURTHER AWAY from those messy realities a show stays, the more you adore it. You don't want to see realistic portrayals, you want fluff and unicorns.
By the way, Tian hasn't been afraid of his sexuality since about episode 2. He has been waiting for Wang to admit what he already knows. Tian never showed any discomfort with who he is. That scene at the end of 11 was powerful but entirely irrelevant
You the worst kind of homophobe: you don't even know you are one.
Surely it was something fresh but at the same time confusing as wellThe second couple didn't also had a proper…
I hope the show does NOT get a second season because its homophobic plot is an affront to every gay person. Plus, the terrible script and pacing take it out of the running. Why should the show get 12 more episodes to beat around the bush and show Tian giving Wang smouldering/knowing looks another 500 times?
12 episodes in order for internalized homophobia to carry the day? What a waste of everyone's time. Sure, internalized…
Not only did Wang sabotage his class standing to get away from Tian in school, he is ALSO moving out of the dorm room. This was specifically addressed between them near the end. Wang said he was moving out at NOON that day. lol
Totally agree with most of what you wrote. I know internalized homophobia is a real thing because I lived more than half my years pretending to be someone else because I hated that I was gay. I've recovered to a great extent after coming out, but I will never be the person I might have been if so much of my life and self-perception hadn't been poisoned by self-hatred.
I'm with you: I suggested perhaps 8 episodes would have been enough for the entire story, with the filler pulled out. What always annoys me about these kinds of scripts is the SUDDEN, OUT-OF-THE-BLUE realization that he is attracted to Tian. Please. He knew that six episodes ago. An episode and a half ago he was seductively luring Tian into his bed, and he knew why. Several episodes before that he knew he loved him. But yeah, we get to #12 and there is a sudden gay panic. Bullshit.
Your last paragraph is right-on too, except for the dorm bit. But this show is about tropes,, not logic or believable storytelling. Because Wang has switched classes and moved out of the dorm, though they're still in the same school, they won't see each other for 25 years because there are no phones, email, texts, or snail mail options in the world. Good god.
These types of scripts are incredibly insulting to the audience's intelligence. Yet, as we see in comments below, there are plenty of masochists who eat this shit up. I believe a lot of them love this type of thing precisely because the leads do NOT get together. At heart, they want rainbows, panda bears, cotton candy, and fluff from their gay boys, not anything resembling an actual gay relationship. That makes them uncomfortable.
I wouldn't be so sure about that, the Chinese were misjudging, because they thought they didn't follow the novel…
Nobody in China watches this show on a legal/pay platform. So how, exactly, was "the money coming from China," even if the psycho C-Netizens loved the show?
Just finished watching ep 12 and I have to say... Not bad. I enjoyed the realization of having fallen in love…
He deliberately failed a test to get away from Tian in Class A. As a result, he is also moving out of the dorm room they shared. And you think Tian is overreacting? Please.
Benjamin Tsang deserves so much better than this poorly-written trope-fest. I was moved to tears by the ending but ONLY because of Benjamin's powerful and restrained acting performance. His pain, feeling of betrayal, and sadness were so real that they overcame the complete and utterly bogus narrative that got us to that point.
If there were an annual Oscar award for Best Actor in a BL, Benjamin Tsang would win multiple copies of it for 2024. Without him, no one would have been watching this past episode 6.
Early Wang: "Hey, I will always be at your side. I will be with you in your first real 'home' and you can be secure and happy!" Later Wang: "Oh, I changed my mind. I will now rip your heart out, spit on it, stamp it with my foot, take a dump on it, and leave you. I will do this because it's in the script." GIVE ME A BREAK.
We all know what comes next, and not because I've read an interview or stalked IG, but because this show is a trope-fest and the next trope is a long, unnecessary separation of many years because no one has a cell phone or email or the ability to text.
I wish Tian would forget all about Wang and get a real man.
FINALLY...what was the point of the amazingly performed and stunning scene at the end of episode 11? What Tian experienced in that moment seemed to have no effect whatsoever on his attitude toward his own sexuality and perception of self, which is a great thing. The entire series, he knew what was up; he wasn't afraid. He was waiting for Wang to grow a pair. So, the episode 11 ending had zero relevance to the plot. It was just stuck in there and forgotten.
Weird.
Bravo Benjamin! If there is a S2, please refuse the role and move on to a screenplay deserving of your talent.
hahahaha..."MASTERPIECE." One of the fangirls finally said it out loud. I've been wondering which one of you would…
Got it. People who disagree with you and reply to other commenters' replies to them are "trolls." lol Very original.
How about YOU "...are just a negative troll with no actual substance for an argument?" Don't ask me why you wasted your time; that's your issue. Apparently, you lack self-control.
I don't mind unhappy endings, if they're earned, make sense, and aren't there to satisfy "gay people can't be…
They should have presented this as the first installment of several seasons, if that's the case. I'm of the opinion each series needs to stand on its own, even if a sequel is possible. That doesn't mean I insist on a happy ending by any means; just that it not be written in such a way that if there is NOT a S2 the ending of S1 makes no sense.
You wrote it twice because you're not a good writer. No, words have specific definitions contained in things called "dictionaries." Use one. ooooh, you wrote "AMAZING." It must be, since you say so. Your replies have deteriorated to first-grade-level nonsense. I won't be engaging further. I prefer arguing with people who can think and write. Also, you can't read. I specifically said there is NO BL worthy of the word "masterpiece."
Knetz regularly drive idols and actors to suicide with their relentless online abuse, lies, and rumor-mongering. It's been nine months since they killed Lee Sun Kyun so we're due for another "extreme choice" any day now...
Thanks for all the recommendations though.
I give a shit what nama's rating is and so do a lot of other discerning people here. Go take a Xanax.
By the way, Tian hasn't been afraid of his sexuality since about episode 2. He has been waiting for Wang to admit what he already knows. Tian never showed any discomfort with who he is. That scene at the end of 11 was powerful but entirely irrelevant
You the worst kind of homophobe: you don't even know you are one.
We've never heard "masterpiece" here before.
"No Wang, you dumbass, you are NOT brothers! Never have been, never will be. Your parents aren't even married, so you're not even STEP-brothers."
Are these writers mentally handicapped?
Totally agree with most of what you wrote. I know internalized homophobia is a real thing because I lived more than half my years pretending to be someone else because I hated that I was gay. I've recovered to a great extent after coming out, but I will never be the person I might have been if so much of my life and self-perception hadn't been poisoned by self-hatred.
I'm with you: I suggested perhaps 8 episodes would have been enough for the entire story, with the filler pulled out. What always annoys me about these kinds of scripts is the SUDDEN, OUT-OF-THE-BLUE realization that he is attracted to Tian. Please. He knew that six episodes ago. An episode and a half ago he was seductively luring Tian into his bed, and he knew why. Several episodes before that he knew he loved him. But yeah, we get to #12 and there is a sudden gay panic. Bullshit.
Your last paragraph is right-on too, except for the dorm bit. But this show is about tropes,, not logic or believable storytelling. Because Wang has switched classes and moved out of the dorm, though they're still in the same school, they won't see each other for 25 years because there are no phones, email, texts, or snail mail options in the world. Good god.
These types of scripts are incredibly insulting to the audience's intelligence. Yet, as we see in comments below, there are plenty of masochists who eat this shit up. I believe a lot of them love this type of thing precisely because the leads do NOT get together. At heart, they want rainbows, panda bears, cotton candy, and fluff from their gay boys, not anything resembling an actual gay relationship. That makes them uncomfortable.
Benjamin Tsang deserves so much better than this poorly-written trope-fest.
I was moved to tears by the ending but ONLY because of Benjamin's powerful and restrained acting performance. His pain, feeling of betrayal, and sadness were so real that they overcame the complete and utterly bogus narrative that got us to that point.
If there were an annual Oscar award for Best Actor in a BL, Benjamin Tsang would win multiple copies of it for 2024. Without him, no one would have been watching this past episode 6.
Early Wang: "Hey, I will always be at your side. I will be with you in your first real 'home' and you can be secure and happy!" Later Wang: "Oh, I changed my mind. I will now rip your heart out, spit on it, stamp it with my foot, take a dump on it, and leave you. I will do this because it's in the script."
GIVE ME A BREAK.
We all know what comes next, and not because I've read an interview or stalked IG, but because this show is a trope-fest and the next trope is a long, unnecessary separation of many years because no one has a cell phone or email or the ability to text.
I wish Tian would forget all about Wang and get a real man.
FINALLY...what was the point of the amazingly performed and stunning scene at the end of episode 11? What Tian experienced in that moment seemed to have no effect whatsoever on his attitude toward his own sexuality and perception of self, which is a great thing. The entire series, he knew what was up; he wasn't afraid. He was waiting for Wang to grow a pair. So, the episode 11 ending had zero relevance to the plot. It was just stuck in there and forgotten.
Weird.
Bravo Benjamin! If there is a S2, please refuse the role and move on to a screenplay deserving of your talent.
2/10
How about YOU "...are just a negative troll with no actual substance for an argument?" Don't ask me why you wasted your time; that's your issue. Apparently, you lack self-control.
No, words have specific definitions contained in things called "dictionaries." Use one.
ooooh, you wrote "AMAZING." It must be, since you say so.
Your replies have deteriorated to first-grade-level nonsense. I won't be engaging further. I prefer arguing with people who can think and write.
Also, you can't read. I specifically said there is NO BL worthy of the word "masterpiece."