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Not gonna say. :)

Actually, I called her a "lousy" actress, which she is.

Exactly. However, it's becoming downright creepy how many of them really do have the same basic plastic surgery-style nose. You can spot it in an instant; the "ski slope," along with an unnatural narrowness, a combo only a plastic surgeon can provide.

So what I don't get is how you further your career by making yourself look more like all the other Korean actors/performers who have had the same work?

I'm an American of Germanic descent. I find natural Asian features, male or female, to be the most beautiful in the world. The monolid/epicanthic fold eyelids are a huge part of that beauty. I hate seeing so many of them undergoing dangerous surgical procedures in a vain effort to look more like me. It's not as though after the double eyelid surgery so many of them have, anyone's going to mistake them for a Swede or Anglo Saxon. It's absurd.

This phenomenon also seems to betray a sad insecurity inherent in the way many Koreans feel about their natural Asian looks. Why would they want to look more Western if they liked looking Asian? Like I said, this bums me out. I sigh a little every time I see a nose job in a Korean film I'm otherwise enjoying.

There's one actor in particular who was drop-dead handsome. Then the next time I saw him he had a ski-slope, plastic surgery nose. Now I find it hard to look at him. All I see is his face covered in bandages after he went under the knife, and I wonder why he did it.

Gosh, thank you for your illuminating reply. I had no idea it was their choice. I thought someone put a gun to their heads and made them get new noses and new eyelids. Oh, and I also had no idea their bodies were, you know, theirs. I thought their bodies belonged to a Norwegian business conglomerate or an Ecuadorian drug cartel.

I am always so grateful when MDLers far more intelligent and informed than me drop in with comments as enlightening as yours. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Now that I've expressed my gratitude for your providing me with information I otherwise would have never gleaned on my own, I'd like to most politely ask a question: Is there anything at all in my comment above that implies Korean actors and idols do not have ownership of their own bodies? If you find that implication, could you point it out to me so I can see it too? But I'm pretty sure it's not there. Thus I have no idea who the f**k you think you're replying to, cause it's sure as hell not to me

Actually, it's irrelevant who owns these peoples' bodies, and there's an argument to be made that in many cases it's their agencies who own them, what they do to them bums me out. Kind of like I originally said.

But I guess if you saw someone on the street cutting their own leg off with a chainsaw, you'd pass on by saying, "their body, their choice." Wow, you are so philisophical and shit.

Lord, the stupidity.

Bums me out how many Korean actors/performers ruin their good looks with bad plastic surgery. Half the young actors in Korea have the same nose.

Kim Rae Won is a damn good actor.
Kim Hae Sook is a damn good actress.

This is a damn bad movie.
Countless, HUGE plot holes and stupidities in the actions taken by various characters, including the mother, in the way they stood up to the bad guys, but then had zero backup plan to follow through. The story makes no sense. You have to squint through all the implausibilities and lame writing to even begin to pretend this flick is well put together. It's a mess.

I say this with regret, as I have great respect for the two actors above. I hope both got paid big bucks for doing this terrible film.

Question: Is Tae Shik intellectually disabled? If so, how did he become that way? If not, why does he act as though he is so half the time?
Question: Is the sister also intellectually disabled or is Heo Yi Jae just a bad actress? If she is not disabled, why does SHE act as though she is so half the time?
What is the point of the mother standing up to the bad guys if there is nothing to prevent them from reacting as they predictably did?
What is the point of so many plot points that to list them here would take the rest of my evening?
Why didn't the new club, Oracle, seem to have a bar? lol
Even the final showdown fight, which should have been epic, was utterly ridiculous in its staging, choreography and execution. Only lame yakuza-style flicks feature fights in which the bad guys stand back and take on the good guy only one-by-one so he can kick their butts, one-by-one. Why not gang-rush him?

Not recommended. 5/10

Anyway, this is awful, unless you enjoy turning your brain function dial to 0 and enjoying the sight of Kim Rae Won as a (mildly retarded) badass trying to turn over a new leaf against the odds.

Agree, but it's beyond sad that we lost four years of what he would have produced absent the Korean system of eternal punishment for imagined crimes against the populace, or...something.

I'm curious: What motivated you to ask this silly question?

lol Hi Moon. I'm flattered. Please feel free to send flowers. :)

As for the arguing, it's sort of a hobby, to take on these MDL morons and keep asking questions and pointing out flaws in their silly positions until they fall apart and resort to personal insults and other misdirection, which is when I know I've won.

To drive them to that point without obscenities and creative name-calling myself, is an exercise in self-control I don't always entirely succeed in. I'm known to use "moron" and "idiot" on occasion. :)

Not in the least.

Why do you think Mr. Wang freaked out about the gray eyes, then? And why did the mother also freak out?

Nice. Best thing I've watched out of China since "Better Days" and "City of Life and Death," though this is nothing like either of those.

Very well done. A gripping, slightly creepy, mystery-melodrama that kept me riveted all the way and left a partially open ending I found intriguing.

9.5/10

Now, go sit in front of a mirror and, looking into your OWN eyes, recite these words to yourself. How pathetic to use the great and wonderful Rumi to project your self-hatred onto me.

"Why do you notice the splinter in your brother’s eye, but do not perceive the wooden beam in your own? How can you say to your brother, ‘Brother, let me remove that splinter in your eye,’ when you do not even notice the wooden beam in your own eye? You hypocrite! Remove the wooden beam from your eye first; then you will see clearly to remove the splinter in your brother’s eye. "
-Jesus

Come back and quote Rumi to me after you've attended to your own wounds, most of which have been inflicted by a lifetime of Islam, on your mind and soul.

No, Iran is one of the last places on Earth I would ever go.

Is it your position that you cannot know anything about any place other than your own, other than by actually, physically being there, "feet on the ground?" That books, films, and all other media can teach us nothing? If so, you're ridiculous.

You are a Muslim. I have no respect for your religion, so there is no point in us continuing a discussion. Your prophet was a warlord and mass murderer, responsible for the deaths of thousands of people, Christians, Jews, and Gentiles alike. He taught that those who would not convert to his new, made-up religion should die.

A brain-washed Muslim telling someone else how to "determine your truth" is absurd. YOUR truth comes from a book full of hateful attitudes toward women, gay people, and other minorities, and it has nothing to offer me, other than as a source from which to know what scary people like you believe.

Why are you pushing such bullshit? Chinese government is EXTREMELY anti-gay.
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-65806846

You sound like a Chinese propaganda writer.
https://variety.com/2020/film/asia/lgbt-movies-china-gay-rights-1234625634/

Your government explicitly banned gay content, beginning with when it pulled the popular Web drama "Heroin: Addicted" off the Internet with three episodes to the finale:
https://time.com/4236864/china-gay-drama-homosexuality/

Also, you're brainwashed. Define "flaunting." Your government recognizes and promotes straight marriage, while forbidding gay marriage. Seems like elevating one group above another to me.

The old "it may be a concept that is hard to understand for Westerners" line doesn't work anymore. Bigotry and discrimination aren't hard to understand at all.

The Internet has made it more obvious than ever that China is anti-gay. It's official stance is that there are no gay people in China. Quit taking drugs.

I generally avoid any Chinese content, mainly because of their ban on gay content. And I generally find their films a bit flat. I know that's a huge generalization but again, I don't want to support anything out of a country that bans content about people like me, as if we either don't exist or don't deserve representation in Chinese media.

One exception: The horrifying but stunning "City of Life and Death," about the Rape of Nanking. It's in my top ten best ever feature films list.

Moron. You have to look at where those western sources are getting the information they're publishing. What? Do you want to look to Iranian media for accurate reporting on how many people their government is murdering?

You don't make me laugh. People like you make me sigh that there are so many willfully stupid people in the world.

Unsurprisingly, you left out the most important question here: WHY did Xiumin decide to decline the role?