Speaking only for myself, I think IU is a lousy actress, and I'm amazed she keeps landing prominent roles. I pull for her anyway, because I know she has been, and is going through, hell in her personal life. She has lost FOUR close friends and colleagues to suicide:
Kim Jong Hyun of SHINee Sulli Goo-Hara Lee Sun Kyung, just two weeks ago
I hope her agency and those around her are bearing this in mind every day, and showering her with the love and support she needs. Frankly, I'm surprised, though very glad, she is still with us.
The title of this drama intrigues me. In Jonghyun's suicide email to K-Pop singer Nine9, he asked her "What more can I say. Just tell me I did well. " and let him go. Seems like an unlikely coincidence. I'm off to research this.
Huh? Of course you need to mention the scandal because it's the reason he hasn't been on tv in 4 years. And wdym…
Whether or not you're Korean has a direct bearing on your perspective on the harassment and public ownership of celebrities. If you are Korean, it's likely you are going to have more difficulty seeing the problem in the first place.
I love Korean movies and some dramas. The majority of my top fave actors are Korean. Joo Jin Mo is my FAVE actor. My fave singer of all time is Kim Jong Hyun of SHINee, who also died by suicide. My point being this is not about me having a thing against Korea or Koreans.
But I don't really like seeing all these wonderfully talented Koreans taking their own lives at such an unbelievable pace.
Regarding this trashy article, I'll assume you're not a professional news/PR writer. I am. Here's the problem: The writer of this article, which has a weak grasp of the language it is writing in, begins by putting "since his private life controversy" in the freaking headline, as if the four-year-old faux scandal is a primary element of this story. It's not.
"Joo Jin Mo Returns to Broadcast TV After Four Year Hiatus" would have been fine. Then, if this writer just HAS to dredge up the faux scandal, which it does, it should have gone far beyond giving us the bare minimum and very selective, facts of the whole ridiculous thing.
"But just looking at how things turned out it clearly is of relevance." THIS is one of the ass-backward ways of thinking that is part of Korean entertainment/artist/celebrity culture's suicide culture. The writer doesn't explain "how things turned out" at all, other than implying a lot of garbage it apparently thinks the reader should already know.
Here are all the questions that it, the writer, doesn't ask or answer:
WHO were the blackmailiers? Were they breaking the law in hacking his phone? (Yes) Were they ever identified and prosecuted and/or sued? (I don't know, it doesn't tell us.) WHY did online psychos publish illegally obtained, private information? Did said psychos break the law in doing so? Were the psychos identified and prosecuted? Was an effort even made by law enforcement to catch them? If not, why not? WHY has JJM been in the wilderness of Korean movie and drama-making for four years? Was he black-listed or did he cease pursuing new roles? Was there an organized black-listing of JJM by production companies? If so, which ones, and why? Is it illegal or unethical to participate in a black-listing of an artist? (It should be.) WHY is JJM appearing in this new show? Is the black-listing period over? WHY did the production company making this new show hire him? The faux controversy from four years ago is still a fact of life. Why now?
I could go on and on. This could have been an interesting and informative article, had the individual who slapped it together made any effort. Instead, it is a weak-ass, lazy, lame, shoddy piece of sleazy writing (I won't call it "journalism" because that is an insult to real journalists.) that comes off as an excuse to rehash an old, faux scandal.
The most offensive aspect of this trash is how it assumes the reader KNOWS the answer to the questions above, and concurs in the twisted notion that the faux scandal was legitimate and merited, without telling the reader WHY. If you think none of this is important and that it is silly of me to think it is, YOU are part of the problem.
"Without him going on a talk show wouldn't be newsworthy in the first place." Jesus, you're totally brainwashed. The fact that JJM, one of Korea's best and most honored actors, is starring in a new drama, regardless of anything else, is indeed newsworthy all by itself. You seem to be saying the only important thing here is the four-year-old faux scandal. That's what the writer of this slime piece is saying too.
"Oh and no idea why you are getting so riled up. Take a chill pill." This statement reveals a lot about you and is another reason why I ask if you are Korean. I am getting, and have been for a long time, "riled up" because, and maybe you haven't heard, Korean artists have been killing themselves at a breathtaking rate for at least 25 years, and it's getting worse. One of Korea's current, and finest, actors, who was world-famous because of the Oscar-winning "Parasite" and other shows distributed internationally, killed himself two weeks ago, or have you forgotten? MDL keeps putting up articles that intrude on artists personal lives over matters having nothing to do with their work, such as "dating scandals." (How is dating someone a "scandal?" How is it anyone's business but theirs?)
You don't care and you don't get "riled up" over the suicide madness, which is unique to Korea. I am horrified by it, and I wish it would stop. You don't see any cause for alarm. Well, you do you and I'll do me.
This 'writer' never improves in translating, either. He/she/it still can't translate pronouns correctly, despite…
Yeah, a thread about yet another great Korean actor being hounded to hell and being blackballed for four years because of a private convo never meant for anyone else's eyes, that was HACKED off his phone, is a great place to yuck it up, isn't it?
It was your "don't, please" that felt like a butt-in, all for your deep concern for the feelings of a terrible writer who writes in English without knowing how to use the language. Comment all you want.
A little of that concern for the Korean artists people like you help drive to suicide would be nice, or is that too much to ask?
Yes, all of the sex was 100% real and unsimulated. Every actor you see boffing another actor or being boffed, is in fact boffing or being boffed. The best parts are the numerous erect dongs and close-up ejaculations.
CNN did an article on how Korea's "Celeb Shame & Suicide Factory" has already caused Hollywood titans and Netflix…
I found the article. Turns out I'd already read it. Found two more very in-depth articles, all by prominent news media OUTSIDE KOREA, of course. The country as a whole, still does not get it, and won't for a very long time, if ever.
CNN did an article on how Korea's "Celeb Shame & Suicide Factory" has already caused Hollywood titans and Netflix…
Good. I'm glad to hear that about Netflix. Could you share a link to the CNN article in case I can't find it myself? I go to cnn.com every day so I'm surprised I haven't seen the piece already.
Is that the actual headline? Love it! I've been calling it a "suicide factory" for a couple of years now. I bet they stole it from me. SCANDAL!!! I will file suit Monday and see who I can destroy without facts!
I mean, if he wants to return to appearing in broadcasts, I'm not going to complain. Seeing him somewhere is better…
I don't think it's about "willingness" in these situations. He's got nothing to hide in shame about. I think the Korean studios collectively blacklisted him and others in similar situations.
I propose a boycott by International fans of all Korean movies, dramas, and music. If American Netflix viewers of Korean movies and dramas there came to understand the psychotic, suicide-fetish culture that destroys and kills the artists they are coming to love in Korean shows, I guarantee you there would be a stink.
Instead, we have Netflix currently playing along, and canceling shows which were to star actors who are ALLEGED to have done something naughty or illegal. Fuck proof or conviction, rumors spread by netizens are good enough.
But I don't think most International fans think that way. I've been obsessed with Asian cinema and BLs for three years especially Korea's, but it took me TWO of those years to begin to get a clue as to how poisonously vile is the Korean entertainment/suicide machine.
If JJM was an American star and this private conversation had been made public, he'd have said "oops, sorry to the ladies. Now I'm on my way to the courthouse to see to it the blackmailers are brought to justice." It would have been online for a week, then that would be it. He certainly would not have been blacklisted by the industry for such a miniscule breach of behavior, a little, jokey chat never meant for anyone else's ears or eyes.
Granted, I would never be able to maintain this boycott, but I would at least only watch Korean shows on pirate sites. Damned if I'm going to give that twisted industry my $$$.
How do you write a whole ass article about a scandal and not even mention what the scandal is...
It's quickly summarized below the photo. These blood-suckers would never miss a chance to trash a celeb for a four year old incident that never would have hurt anyone, had blackmailers not released the info to social media sites after JJM refused their attempt to extort him, then the social media sites published the info on the Internet which gave mainstream media an excuse to publish it too. In other words, Korean media CREATED the "scandal" and then REACTED to it.
That's how character assassination works. Had this conversation remained where it was supposed to be, between two men in private, no one else would ever have been hurt by it.
Nope , sound justified to me cheating wife will lose her husband , face and family , this actor will lose face…
" lose the face..."
This is the antiquated phrase and the shame-based way of thinking that leads to so much psychotic fan behavior and celebrity suicides in Korea. The country, and the moronic MDLer who left this comment, have to move into the 21st century at some point and stop obsessing over what other people think of you or yours.
Fear of "losing face" is why most Koreans see experiencing mental-health issues as something to be ashamed of, and thus something they will not talk about, which means a lot of people who could be saved, including celebrities, turn to suicide.
Fear of "losing face" is why abused women don't report their criminally abusive husbands to the cops. "losing face" is the reason a million other horrors are swept under the rug for fear of the judgment and shame that comes with exposing them.
BTW, Shubham, which Joseon era is it you pretend to be living in with your backward, moralistic standards? How many shameful secrets do YOU keep in your closet? How about you tell the rest of us all about them, so we can pass judgment on your worth as a human being and whether you should be allowed to continue doing whatever it is you do in life?
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Kim Jong Hyun of SHINee
Sulli
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Lee Sun Kyung, just two weeks ago
I hope her agency and those around her are bearing this in mind every day, and showering her with the love and support she needs. Frankly, I'm surprised, though very glad, she is still with us.
The title of this drama intrigues me. In Jonghyun's suicide email to K-Pop singer Nine9, he asked her "What more can I say. Just tell me I did well. " and let him go. Seems like an unlikely coincidence. I'm off to research this.
I love Korean movies and some dramas. The majority of my top fave actors are Korean. Joo Jin Mo is my FAVE actor. My fave singer of all time is Kim Jong Hyun of SHINee, who also died by suicide. My point being this is not about me having a thing against Korea or Koreans.
But I don't really like seeing all these wonderfully talented Koreans taking their own lives at such an unbelievable pace.
Regarding this trashy article, I'll assume you're not a professional news/PR writer. I am. Here's the problem: The writer of this article, which has a weak grasp of the language it is writing in, begins by putting "since his private life controversy" in the freaking headline, as if the four-year-old faux scandal is a primary element of this story. It's not.
"Joo Jin Mo Returns to Broadcast TV After Four Year Hiatus" would have been fine. Then, if this writer just HAS to dredge up the faux scandal, which it does, it should have gone far beyond giving us the bare minimum and very selective, facts of the whole ridiculous thing.
"But just looking at how things turned out it clearly is of relevance." THIS is one of the ass-backward ways of thinking that is part of Korean entertainment/artist/celebrity culture's suicide culture. The writer doesn't explain "how things turned out" at all, other than implying a lot of garbage it apparently thinks the reader should already know.
Here are all the questions that it, the writer, doesn't ask or answer:
WHO were the blackmailiers?
Were they breaking the law in hacking his phone? (Yes)
Were they ever identified and prosecuted and/or sued? (I don't know, it doesn't tell us.)
WHY did online psychos publish illegally obtained, private information?
Did said psychos break the law in doing so?
Were the psychos identified and prosecuted?
Was an effort even made by law enforcement to catch them?
If not, why not?
WHY has JJM been in the wilderness of Korean movie and drama-making for four years?
Was he black-listed or did he cease pursuing new roles?
Was there an organized black-listing of JJM by production companies?
If so, which ones, and why?
Is it illegal or unethical to participate in a black-listing of an artist? (It should be.)
WHY is JJM appearing in this new show? Is the black-listing period over?
WHY did the production company making this new show hire him? The faux controversy from four years ago is still a fact of life. Why now?
I could go on and on. This could have been an interesting and informative article, had the individual who slapped it together made any effort. Instead, it is a weak-ass, lazy, lame, shoddy piece of sleazy writing (I won't call it "journalism" because that is an insult to real journalists.) that comes off as an excuse to rehash an old, faux scandal.
The most offensive aspect of this trash is how it assumes the reader KNOWS the answer to the questions above, and concurs in the twisted notion that the faux scandal was legitimate and merited, without telling the reader WHY. If you think none of this is important and that it is silly of me to think it is, YOU are part of the problem.
"Without him going on a talk show wouldn't be newsworthy in the first place." Jesus, you're totally brainwashed. The fact that JJM, one of Korea's best and most honored actors, is starring in a new drama, regardless of anything else, is indeed newsworthy all by itself. You seem to be saying the only important thing here is the four-year-old faux scandal. That's what the writer of this slime piece is saying too.
"Oh and no idea why you are getting so riled up. Take a chill pill." This statement reveals a lot about you and is another reason why I ask if you are Korean. I am getting, and have been for a long time, "riled up" because, and maybe you haven't heard, Korean artists have been killing themselves at a breathtaking rate for at least 25 years, and it's getting worse. One of Korea's current, and finest, actors, who was world-famous because of the Oscar-winning "Parasite" and other shows distributed internationally, killed himself two weeks ago, or have you forgotten? MDL keeps putting up articles that intrude on artists personal lives over matters having nothing to do with their work, such as "dating scandals." (How is dating someone a "scandal?" How is it anyone's business but theirs?)
You don't care and you don't get "riled up" over the suicide madness, which is unique to Korea. I am horrified by it, and I wish it would stop. You don't see any cause for alarm. Well, you do you and I'll do me.
It was your "don't, please" that felt like a butt-in, all for your deep concern for the feelings of a terrible writer who writes in English without knowing how to use the language. Comment all you want.
A little of that concern for the Korean artists people like you help drive to suicide would be nice, or is that too much to ask?
Is that the actual headline? Love it! I've been calling it a "suicide factory" for a couple of years now. I bet they stole it from me. SCANDAL!!! I will file suit Monday and see who I can destroy without facts!
Instead, we have Netflix currently playing along, and canceling shows which were to star actors who are ALLEGED to have done something naughty or illegal. Fuck proof or conviction, rumors spread by netizens are good enough.
But I don't think most International fans think that way. I've been obsessed with Asian cinema and BLs for three years especially Korea's, but it took me TWO of those years to begin to get a clue as to how poisonously vile is the Korean entertainment/suicide machine.
If JJM was an American star and this private conversation had been made public, he'd have said "oops, sorry to the ladies. Now I'm on my way to the courthouse to see to it the blackmailers are brought to justice." It would have been online for a week, then that would be it. He certainly would not have been blacklisted by the industry for such a miniscule breach of behavior, a little, jokey chat never meant for anyone else's ears or eyes.
Granted, I would never be able to maintain this boycott, but I would at least only watch Korean shows on pirate sites. Damned if I'm going to give that twisted industry my $$$.
That's how character assassination works. Had this conversation remained where it was supposed to be, between two men in private, no one else would ever have been hurt by it.
Sick as fuck.
This is the antiquated phrase and the shame-based way of thinking that leads to so much psychotic fan behavior and celebrity suicides in Korea. The country, and the moronic MDLer who left this comment, have to move into the 21st century at some point and stop obsessing over what other people think of you or yours.
Fear of "losing face" is why most Koreans see experiencing mental-health issues as something to be ashamed of, and thus something they will not talk about, which means a lot of people who could be saved, including celebrities, turn to suicide.
Fear of "losing face" is why abused women don't report their criminally abusive husbands to the cops. "losing face" is the reason a million other horrors are swept under the rug for fear of the judgment and shame that comes with exposing them.
BTW, Shubham, which Joseon era is it you pretend to be living in with your backward, moralistic standards? How many shameful secrets do YOU keep in your closet? How about you tell the rest of us all about them, so we can pass judgment on your worth as a human being and whether you should be allowed to continue doing whatever it is you do in life?
No? Well, why not?