hansel714

I had the same thought. This, century of love, the sign. Past life, they were women. It’s very irritating to see that a gay man is actually a woman soul in a male body.

どう言うこと？ je ne comprend pas. 你说什么

No. Those movies and series have a focus, an aim to move forward. Shine is just a group of hot guys living their lives in a certain time period

That’s not plot. That’s setting. Taxi driver (Korean movie) is about a group of students fighting for freedom in Gwangju uprising - that’s setting. Plot: an apathetic taxi Driver exposes Govt coverup during the Gwangju uprising. Now that’s a plot. How did he turn from being apathetic to caring? How did he help to expose the coverup?

God I’m giving away free education here. I am paid $200 per hour in my university

Nah. That plot does not work. Because if it’s about the prof, then all so many extra scenes.

It’s bad storytelling when you can’t tell what’s the point of the stor by the end of the first ep. Bad directing, bad editing.

Denying to take responsibility. Nice

Now this IS a plot, you finally get it: “ The story takes place between 1969-1971 as an economist, free-spirited hippie, a closeted journalist and colonel, and a poor student try to pursue freedom because they live in times of oppression, so this is a story of their journey.”

Now think further. Have they flashed out the aim of the characters well? Is it a good plot? Has it shown in 2 long ep how they are going to achieve freedom? What kind of freedom are they trying to achieve? Is the story original or have there been countless of stories like that? Is it too much to explore? Is the storytelling clear? Is it a good plot in however you define good?

Personal attack. Very cool

I’m a film professor by the way. I also won national awards for writing stories. Shine is just not good storytelling but fans are so blind. I’m blind too, I’m going to watch ep 3, but at least i recognise it’s not good storytelling

Personal attack. Very cool

That’s not a plot! That has no story at all. A plot needs a story. Example: “It takes place in 1960s New York” = no plot!! It’s a description. Plot: It takes place in 1960s New York as 3 women robbed banks because they can’t find jobs and how they try to get away.” That’s a plot.

I said one sentence. What don’t you understand

that's like no plot? i mean it's 2301 things going on. but what is THE plot? It needs to be explained in 1 line.

-When life gives your tangerines: a girl overcomes sexism and poverty to try to achieve her dream as a writer (very clear from ep 1). AIM: Becomes writer.

-Spirited Away: A girl finds ways to change her parents back to humans (clear from the first 15 minutes). AIM: get back her normal life.

-Avengers: Assemble various superheroes and make them work together to save earth. AIM: save the earth.

Now your turn, give me the plot of SHine in one sentence. It must show an aim towards the end.

actually, it's not a bad thing. If you watch revenged love, chi cheng's real accent is pretty rural. That wouldnt match his character. Dubbing gives them more options to play wider range

You make sooooo many assumptions. Hot dudes = romance? LOL. Also: I didn't make up the definition of plot. It has existed for centuries.

a good story should let you know the AIM of the plot right from the start. Like "When Life gives you tangerines." In the first ep, we already see her struggling because she's a girl in a sexist time period and she is poor. The unfolding comes when we see how she can overcome her struggles over the course of the drama and see if she can succeed. In Spirited Away, the AIM is to change her parents back to humans. That drives the plot. The AIM of avengers is how to gather a bunch of superheroes and how to make them work together; then the rest of the movie shows that. The AIM of the plot shouldn't unfold; it should be told right from the start. It's bad storytelling when it's ep 2 and no plot moves on. Shine is just a bunch of people in a bunch of scenes in 2 episodes doing nothing.

Who said anything about romance???? Stop putting words in my mouth when u don't know the meaning of plot. A bunch of people living in a certain time is NOT a plot. A plot is something that drives the narrative forward. Like "When life gives you tangerine," the plot is the female protangonist wanting to be a writer in a sexist time period and pursues that goal. So what IS the plot of Shine? Are they aiming to overthrow the dictatorship or what? It's ep 2 and we know nothing. Don't be so emotional and defend BOC just because you love the actors. They don't love you back.

Omg yes!!! You’re a long bl watcher too! High 5

No Grindr in the 70s, so they leave secret codes in poems in newspapers??? Damn that policeman and reporter are hot. I hate that I want to watch the next ep even though there’s no plot. lol