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Ohh ok thanks! I did guess it was bc of the leg but then again the subtitles did confuse me, I did hear it was "Shizi Fei" instead. Thank youuu

Currently on ep 2 and I'm so confused with the characters lol why is Wuyi the heir and not his older brother? And why is the Crown Princess in their mansion? Is he Wuyi's wife or the elder brother's wife? I thought there is no Crown Prince yet that's why Prince of Changsha is trying to be one. Please explain without spoiling 🥹

Hi. Not sure where this is from but I've read this before from one of the comments under user JoJe. I copied the whole comment because I don't know how to share it with you

JoJe: Gu Qingzhi and 5th Prince Xin life : cold, tragic

Gu Qingzhi - daughter of noble family. When she was 9 years old, at her mother deathbed, she told her one can do anything except let their heart fall for a man, only by being utterly detached can women live freely. That's why she grew as a cold, indifferent woman. GQZ was betrothed to Xie Yunhuai since childhood but since XYH sever ties with Xie family because his mother died from hatred (his father choose concubines), the engagement broke. What happened to her family and Xie family make her heart grow even colder

5th Prince Xin knew engagement broke then ask Emperor to bestow marriage between him and GQZ. After all, GQZ is first among the capital’s nine perfections, excelled in music, chess, calligraphy, painting, women’s work, and cooking—considered the model of noble ladies.

Prince Xin tried so much in their newlywed days. He present her with all the best things in the world and pampered her to the heavens. Yet GQZ always remained cold and composed, decisive and rational about everything. This making Prince Xin feel that his offerings and even his very existence were worthless to her.

The more GQZ indifferent the more Prince Xin obsessed. Later Prince Xin displayed intimacy with other women before her, or even allowed concubines to disrespect her, but GQZ maintained this same ethereal detachment. Three years, and finally when Gu family fall, Prince Xin agreed to supervised execution of Gu family. He thought with that, at least GQZ could hate him. But no, she still very calm

GQZ said from the day the Emperor’s marriage decree come, she knew this day would come. Gu family would fall (Gu family had been too strong). So, she not blame Prince Xin. Then she choose commit suicide with the incense she made. She died along with their unborn child. The reason is to bring down Fan family and she couldn't let her child born in such gloomy imperial family, better die with her.

At her last moment, GQZ could still give Prince Xin a brilliantly serene smile and wishing him to ascend the throne, that frozen smile deeply pierced Prince Xin. She didn’t want to live, no one could stop her and no one could save her.

It was a nice watch. There were some draggy parts, but overall I really enjoyed it. Some parts that felt a bit too long for me were the constant back-and-forth between the second couple. Don't get me wrong, I loved them and was happy they ended up together, but some of their conflicts felt repetitive.

Next, one thing I noticed was that the villains didn't really last long. Every time someone made a move against the leads, they were quickly dealt with and written out of the story. There really wasn't one major overarching villain even the person who poisoned the ML was too hidden to feel like a major one. And I actually guessed midway who poisoned the ML, but I still loved how they revealed the backstory and tied everything together toward the end.

As for the ML's death, hmm I had already been spoiled that he would come back, but I still cried during that scene lol. It was heartbreaking watching him say goodbye and talk about all the regrets he had in life. That scene was good.

Ohh, the special episode was such a nice closure for the drama, and I'm really glad they included it. I just wish they had shown a little more of how he was cured, especially since the physician already looked physically exhausted after everything.

For the characters, even though Prince Xin annoyed me in the drama, I think his ending stayed true to the character they built from the beginning. He stayed true to his heart and love for GQZ. I also wish Prince Lie and SXH's sister had a scene together at the end, not necessarily as a romantic pairing, but as friends or confidants.

I know some people call the ML a simp, but honestly, I found it cute and funny. His devotion was one of his most charming traits. Well, I found Heyu charming, isn't he? 😅

I'm also glad I came across a post explaining GQZ's background before watching. It really helped me understand why she acted the way she did after becoming SXH. I understand her character a lot more because of that.

As for the actor who played TY, I know he's still young, so I was surprised by his role. I think this was a solid introduction if he's planning to take on more characters that has leadership, authority, and martial arts skills in the future.

And can we talk about the costumes? They were absolutely gorgeous. I haven't had the chance to check which dynasty it is, but visually, everything looked beautiful.

Overall, this was a really enjoyable watch. It wasn't perfect, but it was a really good watch, the leads were lovable, the costumes were stunning, and the ending left me satisfied.

Finally finished it. Review and thoughts below:

Yes! I saw Zhang Qishan and I heard M9 is him establishing himself but in here he is already kind of established I think(?) so I was thinking if this was a prequel or similar timeline. And I just finished this one 😭 Well I already guessed the ending, I just feel really sad for both Hailou and Haixia for everything they have suffered and so glad Haiqi is still alive.

Ahh yes, saw Wu Xie in the last part. Everything you said is very helpful and I also took a screenshot of the comment you said so I can follow the order if I have the time to watch them all but I will def start M9. I also kind of search a bit that Zhang Qiling has short term memory loss so it's something I need to find out in the drama. Thanks again! I like this drama a lot! For my first one of this genre, so glad this one got me interested in all of this.

Wow! 12 novels! What are the dramas and movies out there? Ohhh that's nice! I'd like to guess it must have been really good and close to the novel for those who have read it since the author wrote the script here. For Mystic Nine, I'd take note of that, thanks so much. I will put Mystic Nine as the next one. Is it a prequel to this drama or is it a parallel timeline? I'm a bit excited trying out a new genre, thanks again for the info

I'm still at ep 30, but i found out that this drama is related to a lot of other dramas. Can someone explain to me? I have not watched any of the related dramas but I did hear their titles before like the Mystic Nine, Ultimate Note , The Lost Tomb. Also, as someone who is almost entering a drama slump, I picked this drama bc of the rating and I'm glad I did bc it made me interested again in watching. This is so good! So I am wondering how is it like, is it like a universe related type of thing? are all the dramas able to be standalone without having to watch all? how are they related? sorry I'm very curious bc this one is really good. This is also the first drama of this genre I have watched lol shocked bc I've been watching cdramas for almost a decade and I haven't watched a single tomb raiding drama until now 🥹

Oh no! I'm sure your watch list became very long lol it is quite hard bc right now there's like 5 to 6 dramas released that I haven't started but oh well, you and I can try to keep up then 😅 yes! Wang Rui Chang did good as well! Because of them 3, I got more hooked with the political trope

Just finished this drama. Tbh, it is quite good. As someone who likes political dramas, I think the storyline is good and watchable. The pacing feels both slow and fast for a 24-episode drama. It feels like more than the process, the output is highlighted so it feels fast and there's so many things happening that it feels long. Chemistry wise, I'm not really into the romance of this so I have nothing to say. The characters are good. More than the FL and ML, it was Daddi Tang and Gao Mao Tong (first time watching him) that shined for me. The young emperor also acted nicely. However, this drama took almost 3 weeks for me to finish 😅 not that it's bad but it's bc I'm entering a drama slump sadly time again but despite that, I was still able to appreciate this drama. Overall, not bad.

I think one thing that gets overlooked is the direction this drama was trying to. This drama is both a healing romance and a revenge drama, but revenge was never meant to be its main focus. It's a blend of romance, politics, family, and character growth.

The pacing feels slower because it's a character-driven story rather than a plot-driven one. Instead of rushing from one twist to another, it takes its time to show each character's journey so we can understand their stories, motivations and choices.

And I think it achieved that. People understood Ye Li on a much deeper level, right? Many viewers also empathized with MXY's pain. Even the supporting characters sparked discussions. Just look at how some here sympathize over Mo Jingli. That's exactly why the pacing is slower. The story wants you to slowly digest each character.

As for MJL and GJ (Empress Dowager), I actually think both received endings that fit their characters. I understand why some people sympathize with MJL, but we also shouldn't forget the methods he chose. His pursuit of the throne came at the cost of innocent lives. Did we forget how the Princess's death alone was enough to show that he was willing to sacrifice others to start a war. And in the end, who would suffer the consequences? The people.

The leads choosing not to support him doesn't automatically mean they were supporting Guo Jin. By that point, the current Emperor wasn't the one responsible for the previous crimes. He genuinely wanted to rule well and bring peace to the people. The drama even shows him listening to advice and accepting different opinions like how he asked the Duke. He's young and inexperienced, so he'll make mistakes but he's also capable of learning.

As for Guo Jin, I thought her ending was fitting. She spent her entire life controlling people and manipulating events, yet the one thing she could never control was time. She grew older, became ill, and eventually had to face the consequences of her own actions. She had to let go of her control over the reigns bc her son is growing and can now be a proper emperor. Instead of enjoying the power she fought so hard to keep, she spent her final days haunted by the people she had hurt and the choices she had made. Personally, I found that more poetic than simply giving her a gruesome death.

Of course, I also think some storylines could have been explored further. The political conflict and a few supporting characters had room for more development. But overall, I still think the drama delivered exactly what it set out to do. It stayed true to the theme and gave us well-written lead characters with a good political intrigue.

This isn't the typical fast paced historical revenge drama. I think it's best appreciated with an open mind and by trying to understand the characters and the story the drama is actually trying to tell.

And lastly, this drama is such a wonderful showcase of Bai Lu and Cheng Lei's acting, along with the rest of the cast. They truly brought these complex characters to life.

Express tomorrow!! Can't believe we're ending this drama so soon (or it might be fast for me bc I watched this late to watch more episodes continuously). I remember waiting for this drama (then Mo Li) and now it's going to be done tomorrow 🥹 Just want to commend Bai Lu, Cheng Lei and the rest of the cast and staff. A really good drama this year!!!

The divorce didn't worsen her condition. Her mental illness has always been there. Just hidden since she is slowly healing through her life with MXY. Also, he doesn't know. He only knows he talks to a maid due to her loneliness. BUT we know, bc we view the drama as a 3rd party. We know she sees more than just her maid. We know she's been having nightmares of Lishan since ep 1. That is why it is so easier to see Yeli's side. He just found out the depth of her trauma so please give him some consideration. While the divorce is extreme, if not for it, Yeli won't be forced to go back to Lishan, and the story about it won't move forward 😅 but yeah I cried a lot for Yeli as well

Yes! Emotionally, it will be too much and too dragging to prolong their separation and longing for each other 😅 And I am also getting curious about the truth about Lishan so thankfully, it moved forward

And that is exactly why I said empathy works differently for different people. I did say what he did was a mistake, the divorce and the burning the pastry wrapper. No one here said he was right, what we said is we understand him. That's the difference.

As for the maid, yes, he knew about her. But to what extent? He knew something was wrong, but he didn't know the full depth of Yeli's trauma. He did ask a doctor but confronting Yeli about it might also not be a good idea since he did not know how deep her trauma is. Look at how Yeli reacted in Lishan when the eunuch told her she was all alone. It is why he also gradually ease it by telling Yeli "to let Qinshuang go home" bc he thought it was only her maid and that the reason it happened was bc she was lonely in the mansion, not lonely/traumatized bc of Lishan. And again, if not for this separation, he wouldn't have understood how much she was actually suffering. What he saw in the mansion was only a small part of it.

And you're also looking at the situation entirely from Yeli's perspective. You're saying he discharged his pain onto her, but are you putting yourself in his shoes as much as you're putting yourself in hers? At that moment, he had just learned what he believed was the truth behind the tragedy. On top of that, he genuinely thought and believed Yeli only pitied him. Meanwhile, Yeli was terrified of being abandoned and couldn't explain herself.

To me, it was a scene of two hurt people at the height of their emotions. One reacting from grief, anger, and heartbreak, the other from fear, trauma, and abandonment. I also respect your opinion but I've seen hate and harsh words towards the ML here and on other platforms that is why I wrote this. I just don't think understanding him and sympathizing with Yeli are mutually exclusive.

I still see a lot of hate towards the ML here and on other platforms. I guess empathy works differently for people. Because there are people who can see the standpoint of two people and understand them without having to hate one or diminish the other.

Some are empathetic only to Yeli. And honestly, I find it weird how some discussions have turned into a gender war. I've even seen people saying the reason everyone sympathizes with Yeli is because she's a woman but pain and suffering know no gender. Both of them have been hurting for 8 years, just in different forms. Yeli suffered from severe mental illness and loneliness. MXY lost his brother, lived with the aftermath of that tragedy for years, and spent 8 years crippled. Why are we acting like one person's suffering automatically cancels out the other's?

Let me ask you this. If Person A lost their mom and family and developed depression and mental illness because of it, and Person B lost their brother, suffered so much emotional distress that they became physically disabled, who is more pitiful? What if Person A was male and Person B was female? Would it change how you view them? Because from what I've seen, people keep saying "but Yeli suffered more." Yes. Right. But does that mean MXY didn't suffer at all?

I know it was extreme for him to choose divorce. But is this new in cdrama? We have seen countless separation and divorce arcs used to push the story forward and make the leads realize they can't let go of each other. And people keep saying he made Yeli's condition worse. No. Yeli was already like that for 8 years. She just started to heal bc MXY is helping her ease it. The divorce didn't worsen her illness.

And let's talk about MXY's perspective for a second. He heard the last words of a dying man. It was the Marquis story on his side about the tragedy that destroyed MXY family, killed MXY brother, caused countless deaths, and affected thousands of families. Of course he was emotional. Could Yeli have explained things right then and there? Maybe. But I also understand why she couldn't. She was scared and traumatized. That's the tragedy. Neither of them were in the right state of mind to communicate properly. What I don't understand is why Yeli's fear is understandable but MXY's reaction is treated like some unforgivable crime. He made a mistake but the anger towards it is too much.

And story-wise, how exactly was the plot supposed to move without this happening? How was Yeli supposed to go back to Lishan? She was happy after leaving the mountain. She literally said she didn't want to go back. During their entire marriage she never chose to return or visit. Why? Because subconsciously she didn't want to face that place. Some things need to happen for the story to progress.

By Episode 32, MXY was already willing to understand Yeli's suffering. He literally acknowledged his mistakes and admitted fault. Yet people still act like nothing he does is enough. You can dislike his actions. That's completely fair. But some of you have become so focused on judging him and throwing hateful words to him that you've stopped seeing him as a someone who was also carrying 8 years of pain and trauma. I don't see a villain and a victim here. I see two people who suffered because of the same tragedy and handled that suffering in different ways. And for everything that I've said, my heart breaks a lot for Yeli like I just want to hug this girl but I have never hated MXY bc as much as I understand Yeli, I understand him too.

Anyway, can't wait for the next episodes and for the truth about Lishan to finally unfold publicly. ALSO, I also think Princess Lingyun is still alive 🤔 I want ZY and her to meet and be able to express themselves as them not as people hiding identities. So hoping she is still alive

Ikr!! and the 1 ep per day adds to that torture as well lol

I haven't cried this much in a cdrama for a while. My tears just kept falling. I could feel Ye Li's pain, heartbreak, and helplessness. Even the storytelling scene where she heard how the story ended completely broke me.

Two people are hurting. I understand Ye Li's suffering and I cried for her because she never deserved any of the consequences she had to bear. But I also don't understand why some people dismiss MXY's pain. It wasn't only about believing Ye Li stayed by his side out of guilt. That 8-year ago tragedy took almost everything from him too. He lost his brother, the lives of those soldiers, the futures of many families, his own dreams, and he spent eight years crippled and lived with no direction. Did we all forget the first few episodes?

Ye Li wasn't at fault, yes, and even MXY knows that. That's exactly why he only said he couldn't feel for her mom's suffering. And just when life and hope finally started returning to him, he was hit with the belief that the person he loved had only been helping him out of guilt. Anyone would be hurt by that.

Neither of them has healed from the past. They're both carrying years of pain, and that's what makes these episodes so heartbreaking.

Anyway, ep 32 later. The days feel twice as long while waiting. I wish they'd just release the express today 😂

Yes! I did watch it yesterday. Very emotional but also like you said, it is now on the road to mending

Ok I give in. I will watch ep 31 and suffer waiting for ep 32 with you all lol