Yikes. That awful drama with the old grandpa romancing a much younger woman in a headache angst. The only award…
I've seen actual couples with age gap bigger than these two actors who are happy and living good life. Just because you have some kind of f-ed up distaste for age-gap doesn't mean others will share your trashy values. Both of the actors are adults and know what they are doing, stop your trashy virtue-signaling, as if you have any virtue to begin with.
Throughout the world, witch-hunting of celebrities have become increasingly popular. But even by that standard, South Korea stands out. I understand that people have different opinions about a man going to hostess bars and meeting hookers and doing drugs, but honestly, if it's not the opinion of the person's family, I couldn't really care less. Point is, he didn't harm anyone. The only people that he should feel sorry towards for any of the things he did (allegedly), is his family. They are directly affected by his actions. So, they decide what they have to do about these things between themselves. The general public really doesn't get to perform virtue-signaling, as if they themselves are all great people. What bothered me most is how he was made to publicly apologize. That shit was f-ed up. As if he committed treason, war-crime or mass-murder or something. This is something pretty unique to SK, something you see in K-dramas actually, but we got a real life showcase of that. Public is disappointed. I couldn't care, I couldn't care about public's disappointment, especially the public being a "Collective set of people". He wasn't a person in a position of power in this case, the public was. You see, 10 thousand people won't commit suicide due to the shitty virtue-signaling and witch-hunting committed by One Singular Celebrity. However, one singular celebrity or even one single person will commit suicide if those 10 thousand people keep doing those things to him. That's what happened I believe he was also questioned for about 19 hours by the police and authorities. Now, look, unless you are a seasoned criminal with lot of experience, that 19 hours could really break your mental. And I believe he passed the drug test, so that 19 hours were for what exactly? It was witch-hunting. Everyone was hellbent on ruining him. The allegation of "Drug Use" was enough for everyone to make a public circus at his expense, no matter the context. And he probably knew that due to this circus, his career was over, more importantly, he knew that whether he used drugs or not, people already had formed their opinions about him, and that mattered more than anything else, his acting skills, his long career and resume that he built for over 2 decades. And acting obviously mattered to him. And the final result of this fiasco was his untimely death by suicide. Every country has problems. No country is unequivocally better than SK just because celebrities are treated as such, this is not about nation-supremacy. However, a problem needs solution, and it shouldn't be defended in the name of "Oh, our culture is different", "This is Korea, so f off" . That's a form of cultural conservatism that, if people kept buying into after decade and decade, well, women still would have been treated as 2nd class citizen in the entire world, we still would have slaves openly showcased in the market for rich people to buy. These changes, that made the world better, weren't actually all that popular initially among the public. Point is, on an administrative level to general population level, there needs a change in people's perception regarding drug usage, especially the drug-laws that are unrealistically strict. I say unrealistically strict, but I guess, If someone from a Chaebol family takes drug, all of a sudden it becomes "Not so Strict". There also need a change regarding public's unrealistic expectations from celebrities, like they have to be so nice, so charming, so good-looking, so (white-skinned), so much of a family man, So much of a polite obedient woman, this shape of nose, that shape of face, that type of eyes, never smoked a cigarette, no fault whatsoever, ALL IN THE SAME PERSON. This really needs a change, nobody can really meet these expectations, honestly, despite how much the talent agencies and acting agencies try to make them look so in front of the public. Otherwise, these things will keep happening.
Thank you. This one really did a number on me, I woke up late today and this is the news I encountered coming online. I was shocked beyond my limit. I guess I had to vent my frustrations. This thing has been going on for so long now. It's high time the authorities and people did something regarding the strict drugs-law and about this witch-hunting of celebrities, which, rather than helping them in anyway, ruins them and pushes them into suicide.
Don't know about all the allegations against him but Pasta was the first drama I watched and I fell in love with…
True, he had one of the best voice for a male actor in Korea. I am sad that I won't be seeing his amazing acting and listen to his amazing voice in new dramas and movies. This is truly a loss.
Rest in Peace, my man. You were one of the absolute best actors I've ever seen. You have no idea how much I personally was influenced by "My Mister", your Magnum Opus. I am saddened beyond anything I can write to really encapsulate what I am feeling. However, I would like this incident to be a future deterrent to witch-hunting celebrities for the usage or "alleged" usage of substance. He was made to apologize in public, as if he somehow "owed" this to the public, as if he had committed a mortal sin of some sort by "allegedly" taking drugs WITHOUT even harming anybody. I can only imagine how much pressure and psychological breakdown he was going through, all over an alleged case of drug abuse or whatnot, which basically turned into witch-hunting. So many in the entertainment industry and other industry do Horrendous things, yet they often time get a pass, yet he did nothing wrong to the public or some other person, and this is what he got as a response from the public and the media and the police. Even if he had taken drugs, the only persons he was supposed to feel sorry towards were his family, those who can be affected by his decisions, not the public, not the fan, not nobody else. He didn't harm others. Yet everybody was hellbent on ruining his career, ruining his peace of mind and basically ruining his life. Just to be clear, it's simply not about blaming "South Korea" as a whole. Every country has problems, US has gun death problems for example, China has authoritarianism problem, Poorer nations have even more problems . So, I don't want to blame/hate/act as if other countries are unequivocally better than SK in every front and act as if those countries have some kind of a "Moral High Ground" over SK simply for that. I know that people tend to do this and try to feel some sort of a cultural and moral supremacy in their minds. That's not my intent. However, I do think that solution comes with recognizing and accepting that the Problem exists in the first place, and accepting the absolute fact that It's indeed a problem, with so many deaths like this in the recent years. So, before tragedies like these go out of hand, it's important that people recognize that it's high time to really think about it and really do something about it. And it's not just celebrities, general people's life also go haywire whenever drug related problems occur in SK. So, this trend, for whatever reason has reached a problematic length in Korea, needs to be taken care of. And so it should in other countries too. If some place have a particular problem, people there should be cognizant of it. That's how progress happens. People's perceptions regarding this issue needs to change. Otherwise, people's lives can get completely destroyed, a family can get completely destroyed. I think I should stop here, I didn't wanna write a paragraph but I couldn't stop myself. I guess I had to vent a little. RIP, my mister.
Whichever drama has him as ML, I always give it a go. For the last 2-3 years, he has given back to back great dramas. Congrats with the happy life ahead.
Dude is seriously good-looking, but that's not enough, is it? You gotta make him look like someone made out of plastic, eh!!! There's something called "Overdoing things". In any case, ABH as a male lead is something I had waited for years, ever since I first saw him on Her Private Life, Finally started happening with Yumi's cell back in 2021 I believe. And how far dude has come now in 3 years. Good luck.
It's unfortunate that dramas like these will still retain a significant portion of the ratings that were put initially by the diehard fans. MDL really should make it so that people can only write things about the ongoing drama in the discussion settings, and can't both write the reviews and more importantly, give ratings before 50 percent of the episodes are finished, that is at least 8 episodes are done if it's a 16 ep drama. Otherwise what happens is that the initial ratings are highly inflated, and even after the drama faceplanting halfway, the overall rating still looks very good, giving a very misleading picture. MDL has cases of so many dramas like this. On the other hand, better dramas with maybe not so popular cast and fanbase gets lukewarm ratings. It's been so bad that nowadays I have difficulty trusting a drama's ratings in MDL if the Drama's cast are Super Popular. It's difficult to really gauge the validity or these ratings. I believe, this drama is also competing for ratings with Park's Marriage Contract drama, and probably they are also competing with this one. This is a prime case of toxic fangirling/fanboying, something that they do in social media and some other ratings platforms. Sad that MDL has become one of those platform to unabashedly and shamelessly fanboy/fangirl for a drama.
Enjoyable drama, with really great background music. And the timing of the music in scenes sometimes really send shivers down the spine. The fight scenes are good, so is the overall storyline, I would say the execution and the pace of the storyline kinda fell of in the last 2 episodes, which made them overdo some things, like very unrealistic fighting conditions where it's pretty much impossible for some of the characters to really survive. Plus, there was one aspect of the ending that really felt Unfair, about a character, but I guess that kinda made the storyline even darker. Overall, I feel like it needed 10 episodes rather than 8 to really do justice to the ending, even with all the untied ends. But, anyway, for just 8 episodes It was really enjoyable. One interesting thing about the drama was that they didn't show too much backstory of the vigilante other than that his mother was killed and the criminal was given a very light sentence, there weren't like teary mother-son relationship scenes that we seen in general dramas, with flashbacks and emotional tones. Yet, it felt so relatable to most of us. We felt what rage was boiling up inside, how horrendous was the feeling of weakness. It's as if the story was talking about us. Despite not really trying to make the execution of the story too emotional, it somehow made us BE more Emotional, like it touched our nerves somehow, that made us relate to the character of the Vigilante on a really deeper level. That's actually a craft. And yeah, season 2 is really needed. Because the story didn't really end and there are Multiple lose ends.
Normal for MDL,People nowadays are fighting a lot about ratings, if two dramas are airing at the same time, anties…
Yeah, been seeing it a lot lately, not that it already wasn't a problem. MDL should actually make it such that viewers can rate a drama only after about 40-50 percent of the drama has finished. If people keep wondering whether they should watch the drama when only like 4-5 episodes have released (assuming it's a 16 episode show), they can simply look through the comments, and that will give them an idea about the "Worth-Watching-ness" of the drama initially. That will at least keep the Pros and Antis from Inflating/Deflating a drama's rating this early.
How can you know it won't? That's the point. If people keep inflating/deflating the ratings this early, this won't give an accurate picture of what the overall rating should be after the drama has finished. Many things happen in between those 14 episodes. Not to mention, if the show becomes bad halfway, most reviewers and raters don't adjust their initial ratings afterward. This results in the drama still being high rated, even though people didn't like the show afterwards. MDL is quite filled with such cases. People at the very least should wait somewhere around halfway before starting to give such high/low ratings of a show en masse.
I don't know, every time I watch him I just feel like, "Dude, He's Gorgeous!!!" I loved the fact that he was in a positive role in the drama "Love to Hate you", generally he does a great job at negative roles. Him not partaking in more positive roles in K-dramaland feels like a waste to be honest. But then again, considering how great he is at playing villain, I understand the tendency of drama-makers to cast him in negative roles. But then again he is so great-looking......
Wow, just 2 episodes released and already an overall rating of 8.5 and quite a few reviews giving it 9/10 already, while there are like 14 episodes left. I wonder how the final ratings will be if from episode 9-16 it goes downhill. It will still probably be above 8. What hype can do for a show!!!
Edit the biography. If enough people try to edit it then they'll get the message. Just take out the word younger.
Well, talking about awful pics, have you seen Rowoon's picture? Man, that might shock you. It doesn't even look like him. I don't know that they are thinking with that one.
I was told that older woman marrying younger men is considered taboo in Korea. Perhaps that is why?
Hmm. That's why I think writing something like this on someone's page smells of opinionated writing, one way or the other. Thankfully, it's been corrected, they have removed the "Younger" word from that line in her page.
IMO, and my guess, the East Asians are kinda obsessed with ageism, and reading that a famous actress getting married…
Yeah, that's what I've noticed. Now, whether getting married to someone Younger is a matter of achievement or not, highlighting she is getting married to someone younger (Whose name, even, that is unknown, but the fact that he is younger is known very much) on her PAGE is just distasteful in my opinion. Had they written something like She (43) is getting married to a non-celebrity businessman (37), then that's a different thing, they are just stating crude facts. Saying however, that she is marrying someone younger, That in her PAGE, is just plain weird and kinda smell of opinionated journalism. Anyway, congrats to her nonetheless.
Congrats. Although, what bothers me is this line, not in this article, but in her mdl page description: "She is getting married to a younger businessman in Seoul on October 27, 2023" I think the word "younger" wasn't necessary here. She is simply getting married to a businessman. Whether he is younger or not, should not be the focus, Especially, in her page. Here I guess someone is reporting what's happening with her marriage, so maybe such a detail is okay to include. However, that's her page man, why include the aspect of age gap regarding marriage? Simply write, she is getting married to a businessman who she had been in a relationship with for a while. Just to be clear, HERE, in this article, it's fine. Just don't do that to her page. Would you have written something like this "She is getting married to a "OLDER" businessman" on her page if she was getting married to someone older? Come on.
Edit: I checked, and thankfully now it's been corrected in her page. Good too see.
I understand that people have different opinions about a man going to hostess bars and meeting hookers and doing drugs, but honestly, if it's not the opinion of the person's family, I couldn't really care less. Point is, he didn't harm anyone. The only people that he should feel sorry towards for any of the things he did (allegedly), is his family. They are directly affected by his actions. So, they decide what they have to do about these things between themselves. The general public really doesn't get to perform virtue-signaling, as if they themselves are all great people.
What bothered me most is how he was made to publicly apologize. That shit was f-ed up. As if he committed treason, war-crime or mass-murder or something. This is something pretty unique to SK, something you see in K-dramas actually, but we got a real life showcase of that.
Public is disappointed. I couldn't care, I couldn't care about public's disappointment, especially the public being a "Collective set of people". He wasn't a person in a position of power in this case, the public was. You see, 10 thousand people won't commit suicide due to the shitty virtue-signaling and witch-hunting committed by One Singular Celebrity. However, one singular celebrity or even one single person will commit suicide if those 10 thousand people keep doing those things to him. That's what happened
I believe he was also questioned for about 19 hours by the police and authorities. Now, look, unless you are a seasoned criminal with lot of experience, that 19 hours could really break your mental. And I believe he passed the drug test, so that 19 hours were for what exactly? It was witch-hunting. Everyone was hellbent on ruining him. The allegation of "Drug Use" was enough for everyone to make a public circus at his expense, no matter the context.
And he probably knew that due to this circus, his career was over, more importantly, he knew that whether he used drugs or not, people already had formed their opinions about him, and that mattered more than anything else, his acting skills, his long career and resume that he built for over 2 decades. And acting obviously mattered to him. And the final result of this fiasco was his untimely death by suicide.
Every country has problems. No country is unequivocally better than SK just because celebrities are treated as such, this is not about nation-supremacy. However, a problem needs solution, and it shouldn't be defended in the name of "Oh, our culture is different", "This is Korea, so f off" . That's a form of cultural conservatism that, if people kept buying into after decade and decade, well, women still would have been treated as 2nd class citizen in the entire world, we still would have slaves openly showcased in the market for rich people to buy. These changes, that made the world better, weren't actually all that popular initially among the public.
Point is, on an administrative level to general population level, there needs a change in people's perception regarding drug usage, especially the drug-laws that are unrealistically strict. I say unrealistically strict, but I guess, If someone from a Chaebol family takes drug, all of a sudden it becomes "Not so Strict".
There also need a change regarding public's unrealistic expectations from celebrities, like they have to be so nice, so charming, so good-looking, so (white-skinned), so much of a family man, So much of a polite obedient woman, this shape of nose, that shape of face, that type of eyes, never smoked a cigarette, no fault whatsoever, ALL IN THE SAME PERSON. This really needs a change, nobody can really meet these expectations, honestly, despite how much the talent agencies and acting agencies try to make them look so in front of the public.
Otherwise, these things will keep happening.
I guess I had to vent my frustrations. This thing has been going on for so long now. It's high time the authorities and people did something regarding the strict drugs-law and about this witch-hunting of celebrities, which, rather than helping them in anyway, ruins them and pushes them into suicide.
I am saddened beyond anything I can write to really encapsulate what I am feeling. However, I would like this incident to be a future deterrent to witch-hunting celebrities for the usage or "alleged" usage of substance. He was made to apologize in public, as if he somehow "owed" this to the public, as if he had committed a mortal sin of some sort by "allegedly" taking drugs WITHOUT even harming anybody. I can only imagine how much pressure and psychological breakdown he was going through, all over an alleged case of drug abuse or whatnot, which basically turned into witch-hunting.
So many in the entertainment industry and other industry do Horrendous things, yet they often time get a pass, yet he did nothing wrong to the public or some other person, and this is what he got as a response from the public and the media and the police.
Even if he had taken drugs, the only persons he was supposed to feel sorry towards were his family, those who can be affected by his decisions, not the public, not the fan, not nobody else. He didn't harm others. Yet everybody was hellbent on ruining his career, ruining his peace of mind and basically ruining his life.
Just to be clear, it's simply not about blaming "South Korea" as a whole. Every country has problems, US has gun death problems for example, China has authoritarianism problem, Poorer nations have even more problems . So, I don't want to blame/hate/act as if other countries are unequivocally better than SK in every front and act as if those countries have some kind of a "Moral High Ground" over SK simply for that. I know that people tend to do this and try to feel some sort of a cultural and moral supremacy in their minds. That's not my intent.
However, I do think that solution comes with recognizing and accepting that the Problem exists in the first place, and accepting the absolute fact that It's indeed a problem, with so many deaths like this in the recent years. So, before tragedies like these go out of hand, it's important that people recognize that it's high time to really think about it and really do something about it. And it's not just celebrities, general people's life also go haywire whenever drug related problems occur in SK. So, this trend, for whatever reason has reached a problematic length in Korea, needs to be taken care of. And so it should in other countries too. If some place have a particular problem, people there should be cognizant of it. That's how progress happens. People's perceptions regarding this issue needs to change. Otherwise, people's lives can get completely destroyed, a family can get completely destroyed.
I think I should stop here, I didn't wanna write a paragraph but I couldn't stop myself. I guess I had to vent a little.
RIP, my mister.
Congrats with the happy life ahead.
In any case, ABH as a male lead is something I had waited for years, ever since I first saw him on Her Private Life, Finally started happening with Yumi's cell back in 2021 I believe. And how far dude has come now in 3 years.
Good luck.
Much love to him. Hope it becomes a really good drama and propels his career further.
Otherwise what happens is that the initial ratings are highly inflated, and even after the drama faceplanting halfway, the overall rating still looks very good, giving a very misleading picture. MDL has cases of so many dramas like this. On the other hand, better dramas with maybe not so popular cast and fanbase gets lukewarm ratings.
It's been so bad that nowadays I have difficulty trusting a drama's ratings in MDL if the Drama's cast are Super Popular. It's difficult to really gauge the validity or these ratings. I believe, this drama is also competing for ratings with Park's Marriage Contract drama, and probably they are also competing with this one. This is a prime case of toxic fangirling/fanboying, something that they do in social media and some other ratings platforms. Sad that MDL has become one of those platform to unabashedly and shamelessly fanboy/fangirl for a drama.
The fight scenes are good, so is the overall storyline, I would say the execution and the pace of the storyline kinda fell of in the last 2 episodes, which made them overdo some things, like very unrealistic fighting conditions where it's pretty much impossible for some of the characters to really survive. Plus, there was one aspect of the ending that really felt Unfair, about a character, but I guess that kinda made the storyline even darker. Overall, I feel like it needed 10 episodes rather than 8 to really do justice to the ending, even with all the untied ends. But, anyway, for just 8 episodes It was really enjoyable.
One interesting thing about the drama was that they didn't show too much backstory of the vigilante other than that his mother was killed and the criminal was given a very light sentence, there weren't like teary mother-son relationship scenes that we seen in general dramas, with flashbacks and emotional tones.
Yet, it felt so relatable to most of us. We felt what rage was boiling up inside, how horrendous was the feeling of weakness. It's as if the story was talking about us. Despite not really trying to make the execution of the story too emotional, it somehow made us BE more Emotional, like it touched our nerves somehow, that made us relate to the character of the Vigilante on a really deeper level. That's actually a craft.
And yeah, season 2 is really needed. Because the story didn't really end and there are Multiple lose ends.
If people keep wondering whether they should watch the drama when only like 4-5 episodes have released (assuming it's a 16 episode show), they can simply look through the comments, and that will give them an idea about the "Worth-Watching-ness" of the drama initially.
That will at least keep the Pros and Antis from Inflating/Deflating a drama's rating this early.
People at the very least should wait somewhere around halfway before starting to give such high/low ratings of a show en masse.
I loved the fact that he was in a positive role in the drama "Love to Hate you", generally he does a great job at negative roles. Him not partaking in more positive roles in K-dramaland feels like a waste to be honest.
But then again, considering how great he is at playing villain, I understand the tendency of drama-makers to cast him in negative roles.
But then again he is so great-looking......
I wonder how the final ratings will be if from episode 9-16 it goes downhill. It will still probably be above 8.
What hype can do for a show!!!
Had they written something like She (43) is getting married to a non-celebrity businessman (37), then that's a different thing, they are just stating crude facts. Saying however, that she is marrying someone younger, That in her PAGE, is just plain weird and kinda smell of opinionated journalism.
Anyway, congrats to her nonetheless.
"She is getting married to a younger businessman in Seoul on October 27, 2023"
I think the word "younger" wasn't necessary here. She is simply getting married to a businessman. Whether he is younger or not, should not be the focus, Especially, in her page.
Here I guess someone is reporting what's happening with her marriage, so maybe such a detail is okay to include. However, that's her page man, why include the aspect of age gap regarding marriage? Simply write, she is getting married to a businessman who she had been in a relationship with for a while.
Just to be clear, HERE, in this article, it's fine. Just don't do that to her page. Would you have written something like this "She is getting married to a "OLDER" businessman" on her page if she was getting married to someone older? Come on.
Edit: I checked, and thankfully now it's been corrected in her page. Good too see.