kpenthusiast

I respect your opinion and you obviously have every right to express it so don't take this the wrong way. However, i have to disagree with you saying that those nc scenes are of minimal value to the story/plot when the story is made up by all these characters and it's more than just the "multiple timelines" storyline. I would have agreed with you on the uselessness of those scenes, if Tonkla didn't seem to use sex as a way to communicate, but sex is central in his world, it is a mean of storytelling it's not gratuitous like you make it seems, those scenes have shown us more about his relationships with the two men he's involved with than any words could have ever done, and it's not just their relationships, by the way they act during it you can tell a lot of who these characters are. IMO a plot can be as amazing as it can gen but if i don't care about the characters then it's worth nothing, and as of right now i'm interested in all the characters because of all these "useless" things they showed us.
I do agree that there seems to be an unbalance but we are still half way through the show and if what sammon said it's true this was just an appetizer so we can expect more from now onward so let's wait and see how it goes before being too harsh on the criticism.

Nowadays It's almost impossible to enjoy a show (bl or not) without ppl constantly whispering in your ears how it sucks and it should be like this or that. Having an opinion is one thing, being annoying and disrespectful is another.

I mean fair we all have our expectations when it comes to a story but you'll never see me taking out my disappointment on the cast, characters, company or whatever, because i understand that it's a me problem so i either move on to another series or make peace with myself and continue to enjoy what is a good series :)

For me it's not that they are driving the story but rather they are fully incorporated into the story. For instance, korn is not just great's brother, he doesn't fall into the the typical villain character that antagonize the protagonist or the wingman type, he is his own characters with his own story that is not strictly connected to great. Idk but that to me is how you build a good story and that is by making all the characters 3d.

Imo the show is doing more than good, especially because a lot of times these series have a lot of supporting characters that the viewers don't get to understand or care about, losing that full potential of storytelling, but here (while i may have my preferences too) i'm interested in all the characters and i'm looking forward the story as a whole and not just my fav cp or my fav actors.

I'm so tired of this stupid war between the couples' fans, y'all are kinda ruining my watching experience. I mean i can understand the worry that some of you have regarding great-tyme as a couple, i do too, and expressing that worry it's also valid and accepted here BUT the series is still airing we don't know what turns these 4 episodes left will take so how about we all wait till the end before calling it "unfair" treatment, or "second couple treatment". I also want to remind everyone that while great-tyme is the main couple and they SHOULD have the majority of screentime among all the others cp (which is still possible), this story has also other characters that we need to emotionally connect/sympathize for and how do we do that? By showing their stories and that requires screentime. The fact that Fuaiz has a lot of screentime is because his own character, Tonkla, is connected to at least 3 other characters in the series (notice how we don't get tonkla solo screentime? exactly) so let's all start putting our thinking caps and cool down a bit because this is getting ridiculous.
Also the "4 minutes screentime" jokes were funny at first but now they're just annoying so let's pls take it down a notch thank you :)

If what we're theorizing about the whole two timelines thing is true i don't see how all these characters can get a happy ending in the og one but yk it's sammon so i'm sure she has a wild card up in her sleeves, she always does. For example, a lot of people hated the dff ending plot twist but for me it was perfect they had a happy ending in what was a bad ending, genius. Regardless, i'm getting my tissues ready because it's going to hit hard

Fr, we need granny back!

And the fact that they do all of this hiding behind the "we love him too" card is even more revolting because imagine saying you care about someone and then constantly ignoring his pleas for stop bothering him and his family with this nonsense and move on. They are disgusting

this makes my blood boil, you can clearly feel that he's bothered by their delusions, he wants to move on and live his life free from their harassment and yet he can't. If only i could put them all in the trash...

They already said multiple times that the story was entirely rewritten and changed so much that it barely has any similarities to the og vision therefore there was no previous dr. tyme or great, these characters were written and thought with bible and another person in their minds. Btw i do agree that regardless it would be interesting to see bible as tyme lol

Once again here to say that i love how sex positive this show is, 3 nc scenes and 3 different stories told to the viewers. Every single character, for one reason or another, shone in this episode and i absolutely love it, for me is the best episode so far.
Btw you'll never seen me comment on the theories because i have a pea-sized brain for this kind of things i'm just here to see y'all do the job for me, vibe and be surprised by the plot week by week lol

bas need to drop that glutes workout!

just a thought but how about we all wait for the episode to come out before spewing judgements left and right? In these 3 episodes i think that the screen time was pretty fair and the pacing acceptable, sure i would have loved to see more tyme and great interactions but i know that they're characters part of a story that it's more than just them and also rushing too much into their relationship would have felt off. I do confide that we're going to see some good development of them in this episode as well as the spicy scenes we were "promised" so let's all calm down and wait for it to come out i'm sure that it's not going to disappoint not with how bible was so excited at today's event <3
Also, i'm not opposing to see korn's ass once again it's just too good of a butt to be hidden under those clothes so let's go lol

if only they could see themselves out :(

I'm sure that bible is too nice to actually throw shade but it was so satisfying to hear him saying that :)

not bible saying that when it comes to acting the only people he has felt a true connection were jes and apo (the fact that they're both experienced actors is not a coincidence) So bibleapo new project when? :D

Porn = an industry that abuses and degrades people (mainly women), set up absurd standards when it comes to sex and film every scenes exclusively for the sexual pleasure of the viewers.
4 minutes = a fictional series where actors have willingly given their all to show us sex as nothing more than a normal act, an act that no matter how strong people deny it it IS important in people's relationships, but most of all it's mean that tell us something about the characters and their circumstances.
If you don't see the differences or you're not able to understand them even when they're spelled it out for you then you're not old enough to watch this series or any series with mature themes.
Sincerely,
someone who hates porn and appreciates the nc scenes in the series.

Tonkla is such a complex character, the constant loneliness and sadness in his eyes, the destructive coping mechanisms, him being love-starved, etc... Idk but his character hits home and i would love for him to be happy and free at the end of this series but i know that the chances of it coming true are almost zero and it makes me even more depressed for him for me and for every tonkla lover out there

just dropping here to say that i'm deeply disappointed in the lack of korn ass in this episode i was waiting for it :(