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Where did I write that??

I just commented that this is a more universal story than just some restrictive ideological definitions and categorizations, because you wrote in your previous comments fex.:

"It’s authentic, it’s true and there’s no nonsense like they’re just “gay for each other,” for the sake of a country that is unaccepting. They are gay. They admit they’re gay."

"This is a drama about two men as they navigate this love.."

If you can't see it in a wider perspective then sure treat it just like another BL drama.

There are many other forms of "forbidden loves" than just the ones between two men or two women. This same story could be used in any of them - like a story between an older celebrity woman and a younger man who lets her breathe and exist outside that celebrity world. The sexual orientation is not the main point in this drama. It is just one of the plots carrying the story line.

"So no, I don’t think he had to die because the plot demanded it. I think he’d been falling for four years, and the story finally let him touch the ground."

Even without understanding the lyrics I felt the same. But thank you for the translation and your beautifull interpretation of them.

I am a Finnish woman - 50 years old already - and I have lived through and experienced A LOT during my life so far (also always had cultural connections to East Asia) and this whole drama just tastes and smells life. The older you get the more winding your path of life has (most likely) been and you start to value and appreciate all of the experiences you have had, even the most hurtfull ones. Because everything is about contrast. After suffering the happiness is sweeter and after losing something important the value of what you still have becomes greater. Watching this drama makes me look and feel back at my own life and be gratefull for all of the experinces I have had. All of them combined made me the person who I am today.

Also this drama is beautifull in every level: Visually, music, sounds and the philosophy behind it. Pure art.

I just hope they do not kill all the main characters before the end!

In the real life people who commit suicide often hide it from their loved ones. Those who talk about doing it, often don't do it and those who remain silent and pretend that everything is ok end up doing it.

Why do you have to obsess about their "gayness"?? As I see it the whole series and its messagages go far wider in philosophy about nature, life, death, longing etc. It is not connected to anyone's sexual preferenses or even romantic life. It is about being a humanbeing, connected - or disconnected - to our trueselves and nature and our original environment which we were able to listen, read and understand before the modern times.

The visuals, the sound, the music and the storytelling style of the series take me back to the best Chinese film classics of the 1990s and 2000s. This can be considered real art rather than just entertainment.

P.s. In the first few episodes Qinglang asked Changyang: "Do you like men?" and C. answered: "Does it matter?". Later Q asked it another time and got the same response. The 3rd time Q. asked the same question C. answered: "Is your name/Are you 'Men'?" meaning that this was going to be something beyond earthly lables.

They burned the shoe and maybe some of his other belongings on an open fire so there will be ashes. As Changyang said "he left us a clean shoe".. So the body was not brought down. If Chanyang saw it he decided to leave it on the mountains. What I was left wondering is if it was accident or if Tian did it on purpouse.

Same here. I usually do not start to watch dramas before all the episodes have aired, but now I did that mistake. If the drama is good I just want to be sucked into the plot 100% and waiting for a week for the next episode is pure torture.

The soundtrack is so good! The visuals and the music of this drama reminds me of the good old Chinese and Hong Kongese movies from 1990's and early 2000. Like the intensity and the over all ambience of the story telling feels the same. I hope it carries like this all the way untill the end.

"We are all individuals and should not be forced into any kind of boxes." That is the message I got from this and I agree. I was not sure about if I liked this or not in the beginning, but I liked the way it ended.

I have really enjoyed this series!! When I started to watch I had no idea or expectations of what it is going to be. But it has been a nice surprise.

For a short drama like this it has surprisingly many layers - being funny and serious at the same time and also having like two stories on the screen at the same time too. One story is the actual physical story between Kaji and Fukami we are shown visually and the other one is the one that is going on in Kaji Akihiro's head. During his encounters with Fukami he developes and grows from a person who - due to his past traumas - did not want to be in serious relationships or commit to anyone to a person who actually wants to let someone to become emotionally and intellectually close with him and the one he wants to stay with no matter what.

Waiting for the last episode and I hope it will not ruin the otherwise good story.

Some of the absolute best movies and drama series I have ever seen have been Japanese. They really know how to write, direct and film good drama.. But then again some of the weirdest stuff I have ever seen also comes from Japan and this drama belongs to that group. I liked all of the actors but the plot itself was just a weird mess. I guess you can watch this if you have NOTHING else to do and are really bored, but I can't really recommend this for any other reason. It would have been nice to see these actors together in a good drama.

I did not write ALL of them have, but many of them have, so I just asked WHY. Saying that "not all of them have" is not an answer. The mainland Chinese dramas I have lately seen have all had somekind of possessiveness and mental or physical abuse. So they do exist and my question was WHY, cause I find it weird. What is your problem with me asking that??

I am watching this in a share house in Japan, so I have to use earphones if watching later in the evening and this soundtrack is SOOO good. I had to start looking for the songs in the middle of watching the drama.

About the drama itself: Why do these mainland Chinese dramas so often have these obsessive and possessive male leads? I can't remember Taiwanese dramas having this kind of plot repeating so often.

Hide the link under spoiler allert ASP cause this open link risks the translated drama being removed from the platforms it is been released on!

Please hide this comment with the link now ASP under spoiler allert, if it is visible it can cause the translated episodes removed all together!!

This is a drama not a p*rn film so the point of those scenes is not how realistic they are in showing a s*xual act, but what the characters are thinking while doing it. Like the thought process going inside their heads, especially Kaji Akihiro's.. (Like how he is at the same time obviously falling for Yuu, but trying to convince himself he is not.)

I usually never start watching dramas before they are fully released cause I hate having to have to wait in the middle if the drama is good. I had no idea what to expect when I started to watch this but I absolutely love the humour in this. And it is directed to feel like the a bit "over reacting manga style" and it works well here. I have laughed especially at the Kaji Akihiro characer so much. Now the only negative thing is there are 3 episodes left and I have to wait 3 weeks to be able to finish this drama! I wish the remaining epsiodes will be as good as the 7 first ones!!

Yes, I love Kyoto. I have soon been here for 3 months and my tourtist visa is expiring so I have to fly home, but I will try to come back ASP! If you haven't been here, I recommend visiting one day in the future. :)

I am sorry for your loss. And that your brother had to leave this world so early.

I should have added that if I knew the drama included this kind of illness (cancer, ALS what ever) I would not have watched it. I sometimes feel like these dramas romaticize dying of a serious illness. Ofcourse I am gratefull for having that person in my life for 20 years, but it does not make it somehow beautifull that she had to leave in such an ugly way in the phase of her life she still had so many things she wanted to do - just like in this drama the character (Johan) had.

(We also worked as a pair for almost 15 years, so our lives were really deeply intertwined and we also had lots of future plans together. So my friend's death felt like a part of me died with her and it can never be revived.)

Anyway, I wish you all the best in life - and I will avoid watching these kind of dramas in the future too (if I just know they include such content). I have had my share of serious illensesses and death in the real life..

Ofcourse we can have different experiences/opinions of the same issues - and this drama too. For me personally, I have watched one of my dearest, closest, most important friend and person to struggle with cancer for years and slowly fade away due to both the cancer and the heavy treatments. With the ALS it will be the same: Slowly worsening condition untill you are only a shadow of what you used to be and in both cases as the person on the side, there is nothing you can do to help. You just have to accept and let go. For me this was such a traumatic experience that I have still not recovered. I lost 11 years of my own life being seriouly ill myself too, but that is nothing compared to have had to watch from the side a person so important to me to suffer and fade away like that. So if some people saw the ending as something beautifull, I just saw it as this mentally painfull path to death for both of them. (In a drama surely you can make it visually beautifull but in real life.. In such way of dying there was nothing beautifull at all. Just sadness, exhaustment and the feeling of helplessness.)

(BTW, this person loved Japan and Kyoto and I am in Kyoto right now. 11 years after her death. I still wish she was here.)