17:33 in episode 8 out of 16 on dramacool/dramafever/those clone sites.
Is there as much missing as in the Reply shows, like - are there any other singing scenes? Otherwise while watching on Netflix I only noticed some blurred logos, but no obvious story gaps.
This drama was a mess, sometimes a good mess nonetheless, but still a mess, so it´s pretty overrated here. 1)…
I think you should give it credit for not playing out the classic "omg, we need to break up now due to completely nonsensical reasons" and "let's be apart for 5 years" garbage plotlines.
On the one hand, I found a good few individual scenes and concepts very good, making it worth the time investment,…
The odd duality even continues with character intimacy: While the main couple is not in this peculiar prison of 'no physical touching allowed' that's so very common in dramas, where characters can be officially dating for several years, supposedly passionately in love, but at best share one kiss every financial quarter, this is one of the few shows where the ML/FL are "not shy" to a degree that seems healthy/realistic. (Side note: It's really weird that early on the 'actual dating' phase is mostly timeskipped and we jump to ML/FL being married. It's not exactly a short TV show, and there was definitely enough time to show more of the two warming up or falling for each other, as well as fleshing out their characters only on.) However, we can't just have sane things, and thus it's standard K-fare with the secondary couple. The SML has to patiently wait for years upon years for SFL to "notice him", while catering to her every whim and just getting physically abused in return. That they sleep together once in the middle of all these years doesn't matter, because why would that affect the mandatory minimum length of a courtship?
Tomorrow With You tries to engage in some interesting musings on fate, including the precise death date ten years after the original supposed deaths of the accident survivors, as well as them being declared 'neither dead nor alive', but this gets no satisfying conclusion whatsoever, and the way the scheduled death is handled in the story is also just WTF. Presumably the writers had no idea how to get themselves out of the hole they dug, so in the end even their characters "don't want to talk about it". (What's with this 10 year fate anyway? How does one person sacrificing themselves save others? How does being two steps from a car crash not mean the car is going to hit and squish you as well? Will they 'die again' ten years later?! Who affected things to deviate from the 'original' 2009 fate? Did ML actually take a picture of FL in 2009, or what was he doing? What timeline is the ML who willingly sits in his car to be smashed by a literal flying car from anyway? How come they didn't just try to send 'coma boy' back through the subway on repeat? Let's not even start with: Why can ML sometimes talk to himself in the future, especially via speakerphone, and other times he disappears rapidly?)
Without the characters engaging in withholding the truth, lying about it, and being deceitful to each other to the point where it could be called trolling, the whole thing would be ~70% shorter. Besides being incompetent or absurdly two-faced (& claiming to want the opposite of what would constitute as honesty), they're also often inconsistent in their personalities. It's perhaps most extreme when "ahjussi" switches between being a semi-hobo hiding from the world in his little room, to always being in the right place at the right (future) time to save ML, to hiding from everybody he should be collaborating with, and then to being a smartly dressed businessman with a billion won to waste on trickery and subterfuge.
Speaking of inconsistent characters: I didn't like the antagonist, or even the idea of needing a foe. He's not really threatening enough, doesn't have a clear plan but also isn't fully insane, is defeated as easily as a caricature Bond villain, and it's just unclear what he actually does with all his time and what his purpose is. I appreciate that the authors were going for something like a 'office worker spiraling out of control' like in various American movies like Falling Down, but it just doesn't work for me. He's simultaneously too tame, too ruthless, too greedy, too impulse-controlled, too reckless and too prepared. Without the killing and scheming, the story would have worked better for me.
Perhaps this show is best categorised under "wasted potential" for me, kind of like a less interesting Black.
On the one hand, I found a good few individual scenes and concepts very good, making it worth the time investment, but on the other hand, I thought the core plot points were a bumbling mess, the characters unbearable in their choices and ideas, and many episodes just dragged endlessly like you were watching filler content at 0.25x speed. I felt enriched by a good portion of the show, but for several other hours of it, I wished I didn't have to watch it.
As usual with time travel plots, there are big holes in logical consistency, and rules established at one point are happily ignored at another. I can't say if there is any way the different future time lines can believably make sense, but the show at least doesn't bother to show it.
Don't watch if you hate stupid characters, because all the characters in this drama are 100% idiots... :)
It was so hard to watch the last 3 episodes for me, it was like non-stop stupid. I usually prefer shows you could tag "competent protagonist(s)" and this is so very very far from it.
Y’all!! I’m half way through episode 10 and am so frustrated by the lack of communication! I can forgive about…
Not only a lack of communication, but also a lack of collaboration and intelligent thought if you so want. I kept wanting to punch all of these characters for how much they sabotage themselves with secrets / lies (and a lack of planning).
If you are bothered by... – over the top clowns (I laughed maybe one or two times at the main comedic duo's antics) – laugh track noises to tell you when to smile (though they're much more subtle here than the terror-goats of the Reply series) – inconsistent universe rules (what a ghost can or cannot do, when a ghost can change their appearance, when a ghost can teleport, who a ghost can be seen by, how and when ghosts can ascend to heaven, ...) – inconsistent visual effects (there are at least THREE pointlessly different CGI effects for the FL ghost teleporting, as if every episode had a different animation intern working on it) – rather mild jumpscares (it's far from horror, but if you're a 10/10 scaredy cat this ain't safe for you) – blood / death / 'scary ghost makeup' (as above) – shows that do "one case per episode" but also have a parallel main story
... you should either avoid this, or expect disappointment.
I have a question... How did her ghost friend come back to life?
It just makes no sense. The last episode throws random characters from earlier at the screen as filler content, kind of like the season 2 finale of Hana Yori Dango, or Star Wars IX.
Yeah it defiantly wasn't the best. I didn't like the seniors in the beginning, I found them really annoying and…
1.: It's explained that the mother of ML was a very powerful force-sensitive level 9000 wizard. Uhhhh, I mean she (and her bloodline -> her son) are just very powerful and thus make for great hosts for an ambitious spirit. The antagonist has strong choking powers beyond what a human body could accomplish, and you can imagine inside ML this would be amplified yet more.
2.: Out of spite, because they drove the spirit out of ML's body.
(4. indeed makes no sense, and if it wasn't rather unspecific to the new viewer, it'd definitely need a spoiler tag)
5.: At some point Mr Monk told ML that he could get an infinitely expensive surgical procedure to stop seeing ghosts, and that's what he's saving money for, as mentioned rather early in the show. Whether this is a real thing or the monetary sum was just meant to deter ML from even trying is never addressed, like so many other things.
Is there as much missing as in the Reply shows, like - are there any other singing scenes?
Otherwise while watching on Netflix I only noticed some blurred logos, but no obvious story gaps.
(Not saying it needs a higher rating in the end.)
— and then the accident was not due to drunk driving anyway but due to ... drunk rope tying.
....there's so many of these?
This one was cutesy, but took so long to get through, that I doubt I'll find the stamina for any of the others.
It's the same screenwriter and – intentionally or not – there are quite a few similarities.
While the main couple is not in this peculiar prison of 'no physical touching allowed' that's so very common in dramas, where characters can be officially dating for several years, supposedly passionately in love, but at best share one kiss every financial quarter, this is one of the few shows where the ML/FL are "not shy" to a degree that seems healthy/realistic.
(Side note: It's really weird that early on the 'actual dating' phase is mostly timeskipped and we jump to ML/FL being married. It's not exactly a short TV show, and there was definitely enough time to show more of the two warming up or falling for each other, as well as fleshing out their characters only on.)
However, we can't just have sane things, and thus it's standard K-fare with the secondary couple. The SML has to patiently wait for years upon years for SFL to "notice him", while catering to her every whim and just getting physically abused in return. That they sleep together once in the middle of all these years doesn't matter, because why would that affect the mandatory minimum length of a courtship?
Tomorrow With You tries to engage in some interesting musings on fate, including the precise death date ten years after the original supposed deaths of the accident survivors, as well as them being declared 'neither dead nor alive', but this gets no satisfying conclusion whatsoever, and the way the scheduled death is handled in the story is also just WTF. Presumably the writers had no idea how to get themselves out of the hole they dug, so in the end even their characters "don't want to talk about it".
(What's with this 10 year fate anyway? How does one person sacrificing themselves save others? How does being two steps from a car crash not mean the car is going to hit and squish you as well? Will they 'die again' ten years later?! Who affected things to deviate from the 'original' 2009 fate? Did ML actually take a picture of FL in 2009, or what was he doing? What timeline is the ML who willingly sits in his car to be smashed by a literal flying car from anyway? How come they didn't just try to send 'coma boy' back through the subway on repeat?
Let's not even start with: Why can ML sometimes talk to himself in the future, especially via speakerphone, and other times he disappears rapidly?)
Without the characters engaging in withholding the truth, lying about it, and being deceitful to each other to the point where it could be called trolling, the whole thing would be ~70% shorter. Besides being incompetent or absurdly two-faced (& claiming to want the opposite of what would constitute as honesty), they're also often inconsistent in their personalities. It's perhaps most extreme when "ahjussi" switches between being a semi-hobo hiding from the world in his little room, to always being in the right place at the right (future) time to save ML, to hiding from everybody he should be collaborating with, and then to being a smartly dressed businessman with a billion won to waste on trickery and subterfuge.
Speaking of inconsistent characters: I didn't like the antagonist, or even the idea of needing a foe. He's not really threatening enough, doesn't have a clear plan but also isn't fully insane, is defeated as easily as a caricature Bond villain, and it's just unclear what he actually does with all his time and what his purpose is.
I appreciate that the authors were going for something like a 'office worker spiraling out of control' like in various American movies like Falling Down, but it just doesn't work for me. He's simultaneously too tame, too ruthless, too greedy, too impulse-controlled, too reckless and too prepared.
Without the killing and scheming, the story would have worked better for me.
Perhaps this show is best categorised under "wasted potential" for me, kind of like a less interesting Black.
I felt enriched by a good portion of the show, but for several other hours of it, I wished I didn't have to watch it.
As usual with time travel plots, there are big holes in logical consistency, and rules established at one point are happily ignored at another. I can't say if there is any way the different future time lines can believably make sense, but the show at least doesn't bother to show it.
I usually prefer shows you could tag "competent protagonist(s)" and this is so very very far from it.
– the 'stealth breakup': one character planning a perfect date for the other one with the plan of leaving them right after
– characters refusing to communicate (without which the show would be 3 to 6 episodes shorter)
– couple separation timeskip in the last episode, often extremely contrived / forced / illogical
– final episodes that barely have anything to do with the main couple
– over the top clowns (I laughed maybe one or two times at the main comedic duo's antics)
– laugh track noises to tell you when to smile (though they're much more subtle here than the terror-goats of the Reply series)
– inconsistent universe rules (what a ghost can or cannot do, when a ghost can change their appearance, when a ghost can teleport, who a ghost can be seen by, how and when ghosts can ascend to heaven, ...)
– inconsistent visual effects (there are at least THREE pointlessly different CGI effects for the FL ghost teleporting, as if every episode had a different animation intern working on it)
– rather mild jumpscares (it's far from horror, but if you're a 10/10 scaredy cat this ain't safe for you)
– blood / death / 'scary ghost makeup' (as above)
– shows that do "one case per episode" but also have a parallel main story
... you should either avoid this, or expect disappointment.
Additional ones, VERY spoilery, listed below.
For me, Black is one that came so close to being in my top 3 dramas and then disappointed me so very much. I was angry at it for days!
Uhhhh, I mean she (and her bloodline -> her son) are just very powerful and thus make for great hosts for an ambitious spirit. The antagonist has strong choking powers beyond what a human body could accomplish, and you can imagine inside ML this would be amplified yet more.
2.: Out of spite, because they drove the spirit out of ML's body.
(4. indeed makes no sense, and if it wasn't rather unspecific to the new viewer, it'd definitely need a spoiler tag)
5.: At some point Mr Monk told ML that he could get an infinitely expensive surgical procedure to stop seeing ghosts, and that's what he's saving money for, as mentioned rather early in the show. Whether this is a real thing or the monetary sum was just meant to deter ML from even trying is never addressed, like so many other things.