I just finished episode 3 and... WOW!!!!! What a wild ride!
Ah-Jin pulled ALL THAT SHIT OFF to get away from her dad?! (Bae Soo-Bin did an incredible job playing him, btw. I love this actor.) She (apparently) hired someone to be her stalker, manipulated him, manipulated the ex-baseball player (forgot his name), put Jun-Seo in jail, and KILLED SUN-KYU!!!! *ALL IN ONE EPISODE!!!!* Dear X is definitely gonna end up being one of my favorite k-dramas. Kim Yoo-Jung? AMAZING actress. Instant favorite of mine. That ending was insane. I'm still trying to process everything.
She's a very complicated character! Action wise it's hard to *truly* define her 😅 she's villainous but also has boundaries or certain lines she won't cross (at least where I'm at in the drama. She's absolutely not a heroine, though.)
I understand, but not all villains are antagonists and not all antagonists are villains. Sometimes the antagonist is the good guy, or morally grey, or even something else (like nature, an object, an animal, or a symbol even) entirely. A protagonist doesn't have to be a hero or good. Light Yagami, Eren Yeager, Walter White, Joe Goldberg, Lelouch vi Britannia, Tom Ripley, Shim Su-Ryeon... all protagonists, all varying degrees of morality. Some of these people? Evil, PERIOD. The others are more ambiguous, grey and/or complex.
But I completely agree with you, though. Morally grey protagonists/antagonists can be leads! (And should be. Same with villain protagonists.)
By definition, she's a villain protagonist. Her being complex/morally grey doesn't make her (mainly, her actions) any less villainous, she's just a complicated character. She's not 1-dimensional.
Lee Seung-Yeon is too good as Chairwoman Gong. She's killing it! Also, SH's behavior is starting to concern me... I can root for him (and I understand why he's acting like that), but he didn't need to touch JW like that or cause THAT big of a scene. Dude was doing a little too much for me lol I *WILL* drop him like a hot potato if he actually hurts her. But his love for her is sincere... which is the problem. I can't tell if he's gonna become super obsessive & villainous or if he'll stay loyal to JW. I do notice that JW is starting to grow feelings for SH...
YC is irritating and I no longer care about her or what she's gonna do. HN, I still don't care for, but I'm settling into apathy towards him instead of dislike. HR is... now I'm a little conflicted on her. It seems like she IS genuinely trying to protect JW/SA but... lady, you can't have two cakes from the same restaurant. 😭 MH is going through HELL right now, though. I feel so bad for her!
The Ju siblings are now villains/antagonists in SH and JW's love story... what in the Penthouse is this lol HN got downgraded to being the 2nd ML. Also, did TS kill KB himself after HR left? If so, him being so secretive would make sense. I have to say, though, this is a very cinematic daily. It's filmed like a weekend drama and I really like it! TS's actor is also doing a great job portraying his character. Complete 180 from Master Splinter in Cinderella Game.
Sending JW abroad? At least she can come back with some serious power, an upgrade, and money. Maybe she marries some rich Korean-American and changes her name, stealing another identity lmao. And now JW wants to stay as JW, she doesn't wanna be YC anymore? You know what, as long as she takes all these awful people down and goes on that villainous path herself? I'm all for it.
I also like the new ending theme. Good episode today.
I like Kim Young-Dae here WAY MORE than I did in Penthouse, which was the first drama I saw him in. I think there…
Yes, Perfect Family! Which I started/saw clips of, but I don't think I've finished it. I plan to watch it, though. I can definitely see KYD playing a cold, detached villain.
The "last" part just wasn't it ... the buildup took so long and they did not even resolve it or give explanations.…
I like Kim Young-Dae here WAY MORE than I did in Penthouse, which was the first drama I saw him in. I think there was another I saw him in too.
It's less of his acting style and more of the fact that he tends to get... typecasted, I guess? He should try playing a villain, I'm sure he'd do a good job.
Or Light Yagami from Death Note, Eren Yeager from Attack On Titan, Walter White from Breaking Bad, Olivia Pope…
Oh okay, just clarifying so nothing's mixed up lol
I'm sure that because I'm in the early parts, I'm currently rooting for her to succeed. Regardless, I'm entertained by Ah-Jin, she's so fascinating to watch! Seeing Walter White would probably give them a heart attack, but someone like Shin Hwa-Kyung from Secrets and Lies would kill them! 😂 "You" is such a good show, Joe Goldberg is a sick man, but you're not supposed to side with him. You root for his downfall. Some of the people here are being ridiculous. Villain protagonists are super refreshing!
(Also, I'm doing a Death Note rewatch and loving Light Yagami right now. Highly recommend this anime along with Attack On Titan and Code Geass.)
is this the first time kdrama fans are watching a show like this? it's literally nothing new in western tv. Ah-Jin…
Or Light Yagami from Death Note, Eren Yeager from Attack On Titan, Walter White from Breaking Bad, Olivia Pope from Scandal, Lelouch from Code Geass, Ju Da-Hae from Queen of Ambition, Min Hee-Kyung from Red Shoes... villain protagonists have existed for DECADES, if not centuries! (Macbeth from the Shakespeare play Macbeth...)
Some of the people here are SO used to their sweet cliche romance/rom-com dramas that it's impossible for them to find new tropes, genres, or types of characters to watch. It is 2025. This is fictional, evil protagonists are a thing, and nobody is saying you HAVE to root for Ah-Jin. Also, grow up. (Not you, I'm talking about SOME of the posts and comments on here. And a few SPECIFIC- ahem- commenters here.)
Ah-Jin pulled ALL THAT SHIT OFF to get away from her dad?! (Bae Soo-Bin did an incredible job playing him, btw. I love this actor.) She (apparently) hired someone to be her stalker, manipulated him, manipulated the ex-baseball player (forgot his name), put Jun-Seo in jail, and KILLED SUN-KYU!!!! *ALL IN ONE EPISODE!!!!* Dear X is definitely gonna end up being one of my favorite k-dramas. Kim Yoo-Jung? AMAZING actress. Instant favorite of mine. That ending was insane. I'm still trying to process everything.
I don't have much to say. Holy shit.
But I completely agree with you, though. Morally grey protagonists/antagonists can be leads! (And should be. Same with villain protagonists.)
YC is irritating and I no longer care about her or what she's gonna do. HN, I still don't care for, but I'm settling into apathy towards him instead of dislike. HR is... now I'm a little conflicted on her. It seems like she IS genuinely trying to protect JW/SA but... lady, you can't have two cakes from the same restaurant. 😭 MH is going through HELL right now, though. I feel so bad for her!
The Ju siblings are now villains/antagonists in SH and JW's love story... what in the Penthouse is this lol HN got downgraded to being the 2nd ML. Also, did TS kill KB himself after HR left? If so, him being so secretive would make sense. I have to say, though, this is a very cinematic daily. It's filmed like a weekend drama and I really like it! TS's actor is also doing a great job portraying his character. Complete 180 from Master Splinter in Cinderella Game.
Sending JW abroad? At least she can come back with some serious power, an upgrade, and money. Maybe she marries some rich Korean-American and changes her name, stealing another identity lmao. And now JW wants to stay as JW, she doesn't wanna be YC anymore? You know what, as long as she takes all these awful people down and goes on that villainous path herself? I'm all for it.
I also like the new ending theme. Good episode today.
It's less of his acting style and more of the fact that he tends to get... typecasted, I guess? He should try playing a villain, I'm sure he'd do a good job.
I'm sure that because I'm in the early parts, I'm currently rooting for her to succeed. Regardless, I'm entertained by Ah-Jin, she's so fascinating to watch! Seeing Walter White would probably give them a heart attack, but someone like Shin Hwa-Kyung from Secrets and Lies would kill them! 😂 "You" is such a good show, Joe Goldberg is a sick man, but you're not supposed to side with him. You root for his downfall. Some of the people here are being ridiculous. Villain protagonists are super refreshing!
(Also, I'm doing a Death Note rewatch and loving Light Yagami right now. Highly recommend this anime along with Attack On Titan and Code Geass.)
Some of the people here are SO used to their sweet cliche romance/rom-com dramas that it's impossible for them to find new tropes, genres, or types of characters to watch. It is 2025. This is fictional, evil protagonists are a thing, and nobody is saying you HAVE to root for Ah-Jin. Also, grow up. (Not you, I'm talking about SOME of the posts and comments on here. And a few SPECIFIC- ahem- commenters here.)