I will probably get hate for this too, but I will say it anyways. I agree partly with what you wrote, but I also…
I appreciate your thoughtful response and totally understand where youâre coming from. It makes sense that not everyone would be comfortable with the scene, for me, I see it more as a fun, light-hearted moment for the characters but I hadnât really considered the teachersâ reactions in depth because it could greatly depend on cultural context.
I appreciate this answer, it's well thought out. Honestly, I just think people are too pressed these days. The…
I totally agree. While Iâm all for constructive criticism, some people definitely go too far and end up oversexualizing something that was meant to be a lighthearted, humorous experience. Itâs a shame when genuine moments get misinterpreted or turned into something theyâre not but best thing is to move on as you said.
True. Google Oblation Run. Iâve participated in one and proud of it. We cover our faces, âthough. Wouldnât…
Wow, I just looked it up, and Iâm so impressed! Iâd be way too nervous to do something like that, but I absolutely love when people have the confidence to embrace and show off their bodies. Itâs genuinely inspiring. And even with your face covered, it doesnât take away from the incredible bravery you displayed. Youâre amazing for being so open and bold! đ
I might get hate for this but I am going to be the one to say it. The scene at the end has garnered criticism for nudity and I simply do not understand why.
Firstly, letâs consider the context: teenage boys are often in the throes of exploring their identities, grappling with changes in their bodies, and this scene illuminates a moment of friendship, daring, and a celebration of youthful exuberance. Stripping down as part of a bet, within a safe and consensual environment, can be interpreted as an expression of camaraderie among friends. These boys are demonstrating a level of comfort in their own skinâsomething that can be incredibly refreshing in a society often laden with body shame and unrealistic standards.
I know some people are saying that nudity, particularly in a public settingâeven if fictionalâcan perpetuate problematic narratives, sexualize youth and so on. However, what is essential to focus on is the intent and the context in which this nudity is presented. In this scenario, the act doesnât appear to be sexualized; rather, it prizes body confidence and the natural state of the human form.
I know in many cultures around the world, public nudity is not viewed with the same level of scrutiny that it is in others. Societies vary widely in their perceptions of nudity, and in certain contexts, it is celebrated as a natural aspect of human life.
Moreover, the notion that the bodies being shown are inherently shameful is a reinforced societal belief that can be damaging. When nudity is met with criticism, it often underscores an unhealthy narrative surrounding body image, where individuals feel that their natural state is something to be hidden or embarrassed about.
In terms of personal autonomy, the decision to embrace nudity even in a prank or bet should ultimately lie with the individuals involved and when the boys partake in this act together, it is a communal experience that recognizes their choices.
Lastly, humor can soften the criticism of nudity in this context. The act was initiated as a bet, itâs rooted in a playful, youthful spirit without malicious intent. Humor in adolescent experiences, including body-related jokes, is a natural part of youth culture.
I think the scene should not be viewed through a lens of shame or condemnation. Instead, it can be appreciated as a complex portrayal of friendship and body confidence.
Wang didnât just take that shirt like, âHmm, maybe I can talk Jiang Tian into wearing it.â Oh no, this man took it with the confidence of someone who knew exactly how this was going to go down. Like, he wasnât out here hoping for the bestâthe attitude wasnât "Letâs see if this works," it was more like, âIâll bet my entire snack stash that Jiang Tianâs putting this on.â Forget persuasion, Sheng Wang was operating like a fashion prophet, already picturing Jiang Tian looking fly in that shirt before the poor guy even had a clue. đ he knows all he needs to do is pout and Tian will be at his feet. đ¤Ą
For me, the scene with Qi Jiahao and the professor outside and also the scene with the 3 teachers were disconnected.…
The kidnapping scene felt like it was trying too hard to create drama, but it just came off as unnecessary filler, especially when it pulls focus away from the core storyline that actually mattersâTian and Wang. The love triangle, or whatever theyâre attempting to build, feels forced. In the book, the second couple is cute, but theyâre meant to stay in the background, offering a lighter, supportive narrative rather than trying to steal the spotlight. Turning that dynamic into a love triangle just doesnât add anything valuable to the story. It feels more like a distraction, and honestly, not something most of us signed up for.
And yeah, this is supposed to be a slow burn, but with the director saying theyâre wrapping up the entire book in this season? Thatâs where the worry creeps in. The pacing is off, and theyâve wasted time on subplots that werenât even in the book, leaving the actual main plot far behind. There are only three episodes left, and with how much they still need to cover, it feels like theyâre either going to rush through crucial moments or cut things out entirely. Itâs stressful because the slow, deliberate build of Tian and Wangâs relationship is everythingâand if they cram all of that into just a few episodes, weâll lose the emotional depth that makes this story so impactful. Itâs definitely worrisome, and Iâm hoping they pull it together, but Iâm not super optimistic about how theyâre going to fit everything in without it feeling rushed.
This BL has me floating on a cloud of emotions, but Iâll be honestâthis episode had a few moments that felt scattered. Like, letâs talk about that scene with Qi Jiahao and the professor outside. It felt disconnected, the acting was off, and the pacing was all over the place. The scene just didnât land for me, and I couldnât help but feel pulled out of the narrative. And then there was the love triangle. They focused on it a lot more this episode, which, for those invested in the second couple, might be great, but for me? It didnât hold the same weight. Iâm far more wrapped up in Tian and Wangâs journey, and I wish weâd seen more of them instead of the side drama. Still, I have to give credit where itâs dueâthe way theyâre handling the core of the story is remarkable. The attention to detail in adapting the book is something I deeply appreciate. You can feel the care that went into making sure the essence of the characters and their relationship stayed intact.
â ď¸ Spoilers ahead, brace yourselves! â ď¸
What truly left me breathless this episode was the ever-present weight of the âbrotherâ dynamic between Tian and Wang. Itâs been lingering in the background for a while, but in this episode, it really struck a nerve. Every time someone calls them brothers, it feels like a subtle, aching reminder of the walls between them. But when Wang himself called Tian "Ge"âthat moment shattered me. Up until now, the âbrotherâ label was something imposed on them by others, a label Tian had heard but never truly internalized. But hearing it from Wang, the one person who means the most to him, was like a dagger to the heart. And the worst part? We couldnât see Tianâs reaction because of those sunglasses, which, in this moment, became the cruelest barrier. I can only imagine the turmoil in his eyes, the way his emotions mustâve flickered across his face, hidden from us. The sunglasses robbed us of seeing the quiet devastation, and honestly, theyâre my enemy now. đ
Another moment that completely unraveled me was when Tian gave Wang that quiet command after noticing he was hurt. It echoed so beautifully with the scene in the earlier episodes where Tian, with that same blend of care and authority, told Wang to sit when he was drunk. Tian has this way of speaking thatâs both firm and gentle, like heâs taking charge of the situation but also protecting Wang in a way only he can. The tenderness wrapped in those commands, simple words, yet heavy with emotion just floors me every time. Itâs as if Tianâs concern for Wang is woven into every syllable, and honestly, if he ever told me to sit, Iâd be on the ground without a second thought. And if he told me to hop on his back, letâs just say I wouldnât need to be asked twice. Thereâs something so commanding yet soft in the way he speaks to Wang, and itâs impossible not to swoon.
And then, the moment weâve all been waiting forâWangâs not-so-subtle gay awakening. The way they handled that scene at the end? Perfection. The second Tian took off his shirt, you could see Wang completely losing his composure. It was written all over him, his body language, his flustered expression, the way his breath hitched. You could almost feel his internal struggle as he tried to process what he was seeing, but his body wasnât giving him any time to catch up. He was red-faced, stumbling over his own reactions, and the way the scene played out was both hilarious and incredibly sweet. It wasnât forced or exaggerated; it felt so authentic, so true to how someone in Wangâs position would respond in that moment of realization. đż
The phrase "an ellipse means there is something left unsaid" resonates deeply with Wang and Tian's relationship, encapsulating the tension, unspoken words, and the emotions that swirl between them. Their bond is filled with moments of near-confession, of emotions teetering on the edge of being fully expressed, yet always pulled back by circumstance, fear, or uncertainty. The ellipses are the silences between them, the pauses where words fail but the meaning is still felt, lingering in the air.
For Wang and Tian, itâs all about whatâs not said, the emotions theyâre afraid to voice aloud. Whether it's Wang calling Tian "Ge," a word that on the surface means brother but underneath carries a world of complex, conflicting feelings, or Tianâs quiet commands, filled with care that he doesnât dare put into softer wordsâtheir relationship is defined by these ellipses. Every glance, every moment of hesitation is an unspoken confession, a wordless admission of feelings too intense, too real, to be casually spoken aloud.
The ellipses between them aren't just gaps, they're charged with all the love, longing, and fear that they're both grappling with. In their pauses and silences, there's a universe of things left unsaid.
Hi! â¤I think sometimes itâs better to not dig too deep into realism, especially with characters like this…
I agree, his innocence and hope both were shattered in the span of a single day. Thatâs an emotional overload for anyone, and it makes sense that Jack would direct his anger at Joker. I guess he is projecting a lot of his unresolved pain and frustration onto him because, in that moment, Joker is a symbol of everything that went wrong. Itâs easier for Jack to place the blame on someone concrete than to grapple with the more complex reality: not everything is Jokerâs fault. Life, circumstances, and other things played a role, but itâs hard to confront that. Joker just happens to embody all the hurt Jack canât fully process yet.
Can anyone please tell me why is Jack soo super mad at Joker. Like I understand Joker is the reason why he didn't…
Hi! â¤
I think sometimes itâs better to not dig too deep into realism, especially with characters like this but from my perspective I think Jack was already at the edge, ready to give up, barely holding it together and then Joker shows up out of nowhere and offers him the one thing he thought heâd never get again: hope.
And the worst part? Joker snatched it away the same day he gave it to him. Itâs not just betrayal; itâs the emotional whiplash of being pulled back from the brink, only to be thrown right back into the void. Jack wasnât just mad because of what happenedâhe was mad because he actually believed for a second that things could change, and then it was ripped away before he could even fully process it. That kind of betrayal hits different, and I think thatâs why his anger burns so deep. Itâs not just about what Joker didâitâs about what he made Jack feel again, only to take it away.
Jokerâs out here playing 4D chess with everyone else, but the second Jack walks in, heâs like, âWelp, guess Iâm just gonna emotionally unravel now.â Itâs almost hilarious how bad he is at pretending when Jackâs around. đ
this is by far my most favorite comment! I love when people analyse characters and both jack and joke (even though…
Omg, exactly! Iâm so glad you see it too because I thought I was the only one reading into it like that. For a second, I seriously questioned if I was just romanticizing the whole thing, but when Joker got hurt, there was definitely something wild in Jackâs eyes. It wasnât just anger; it felt like pure madness, almost like a protective instinct kicking in.
Joker the heist clown and Jack the Reaper, debt collector from hell? Peak couple goals. Oneâs out here robbing banks, the otherâs chasing people down like, "You forgot to Venmo me." Total menace energy, and honestly, I respect it. 1000/10, would watch them ruin lives for fun. đ¤Ą
ok... quick question (well, actually a complaint)... why did Joke give Jack the money on the first episode if…
Yeah, it does seem unrealistic, but honestly, I think he just saw someone with big dreams, someone who still believed in something and his first instinct was to help, without really stopping to think about the fallout. Like, it wasnât about logic in that moment. It was pure impulse, driven by something deeper. Maybe it comes from his own internal struggles, like heâs been wrestling with his own sense of direction, his future, and feeling unsure about where heâs heading. So when he sees this kid trying so hard, he probably thought, "If I canât fix my own life, maybe I can at least secure his future."
Itâs almost like he projected all his unresolved feelings onto this situation. He didnât think about the consequences because, in that split second, it wasnât about what was ârightâ or âsmart.â It was about the emotional pull of seeing someone else chase what he couldnât, or hasnât yet, and wanting to do something good.
This episode felt like a complete shift, bringing in way more comedic moments compared to the first. It was such a switch-up, but honestly? I was here for it. Even with the humor, the original tension was still there so it didnât lose its edge; it just added more elements.
đ¸ Spoilers aheadđ¸
The anger, the frustration, everything Jack has kept locked away for so long, itâs there, simmering beneath his calm exterior, waiting to break free. And yet, when the moment finally arrives, when Jack has the chance to strike, to truly hurt Joker, something holds him back. Itâs in this hesitation, this pause, that we see the complexity of Jack. Maybe Iâm reading too much into it, maybe Iâm a little delusional, but when Joker's shoulder is cut, thereâs something so wild and untamed in Jack's eyes. For a split second, it felt like more than just rage, it felt like possession. In that moment, my mind couldnât help but think, "This is more than anger. Heâs protecting his man." đĽ LMAO
But thatâs the beauty of Jackâs character, he isnât consumed by the darkness around him, not completely. Even after five long years, years that couldâve turned him into something unrecognizable, a cold-hearted monster fueled by revenge, Jack is still Jack. Thereâs a kindness in him, a light that hasnât been snuffed out by the harsh realities of the world. Yes, heâs changed. Yes, heâs hardened. But at his core, he remains true to who he wasâa boy who believed in something better, in helping others, even if that part of him is now hidden beneath layers of cynicism and pain. If you look closely enough, you can still see the boy he once was, the one who was kind, gullible even, full of hope and trust.
And that is what makes Jack so compelling. Heâs a man now, carrying the weight of everything that has happened to him, yet still somehow clinging to that shred of humanity. It wouldâve been so easy for him to lose himself, to let the bitterness consume him, but he hasnât. He holds on to that piece of his heart that still believes in goodness, even if he has to guard it fiercely, even if itâs hidden deep within the walls heâs built.
Now let's talk about their dynamic which is an inferno. Every time they face off, itâs like the air between them thickens, charged with something primal, something electric. Itâs not just physical attraction, though thatâs undeniably there, it's something far more dangerous, more raw. Jack is a volcano on the verge of eruption, his anger bubbling up after years of being buried. And Joker? Joker is drowning in a sea of guilt, weighed down by the consequences of his actions.
When they fight Jackâs fury is SO VISIBLE, while Joker is a tangled mess of remorse and defiance. They are like two sides of the same coinâJack with all his pent-up rage, and Joker with his guilt, unable to find a way out of the labyrinth theyâve both been trapped in for years. The unspoken words between them, the unfinished business, it all builds, higher and higher, until it feels like somethingâs going to break.
Itâs chaos, and itâs beautiful. They are two broken people, spiraling toward one another in a whirlwind of emotion that neither can control. Jack with his burning desire for something to make sense again. Joker with his haunted past, his regret, and the knowledge that he may never be able to fix whatâs been broken.
Good thing I found your comment as we have talked about the series before. I feel few appreciated the story of…
Oh, absolutely, you completely understand where Iâm coming from. So many people tend to fixate on Kornâs mistakes, and while it's true that heâs far from innocent, the complexity and tragedy of his story often get overlooked. He lost his mother at a young age, was never truly valued by his father, and constantly tried to be there for his brother, despite everything. He was essentially pushed into the family business, watching things slowly unravel around him. And when it all came crashing down, the only constant, the only source of solace he had, was Tonkla. Tonkla became the anchor for his mental and emotional survival. For Korn, as long as Tonkla was there, he could endure the chaos. But once he lost Tonkla, it shattered him entirely. Tonkla's presence gave him the strength to keep fighting, even as everything crumbled around him, but after Tonklaâs death, there was nothing left for Korn to hold onto. It was as if his world ended the moment Tonkla was gone.
I am just wondering why you marked having seen 12 episodes when it has not finished airing?This is a well written…
I will edit it when I finish all episodes, it won't let me pick and choose the episodes I watched that's why I marked them at the end of the review, my mdl has been glitching ever since I bought VIP ( ironic) I even have issues using the spoiler marks so can't do much about it
Firstly, letâs consider the context: teenage boys are often in the throes of exploring their identities, grappling with changes in their bodies, and this scene illuminates a moment of friendship, daring, and a celebration of youthful exuberance. Stripping down as part of a bet, within a safe and consensual environment, can be interpreted as an expression of camaraderie among friends. These boys are demonstrating a level of comfort in their own skinâsomething that can be incredibly refreshing in a society often laden with body shame and unrealistic standards.
I know some people are saying that nudity, particularly in a public settingâeven if fictionalâcan perpetuate problematic narratives, sexualize youth and so on. However, what is essential to focus on is the intent and the context in which this nudity is presented. In this scenario, the act doesnât appear to be sexualized; rather, it prizes body confidence and the natural state of the human form.
I know in many cultures around the world, public nudity is not viewed with the same level of scrutiny that it is in others. Societies vary widely in their perceptions of nudity, and in certain contexts, it is celebrated as a natural aspect of human life.
Moreover, the notion that the bodies being shown are inherently shameful is a reinforced societal belief that can be damaging. When nudity is met with criticism, it often underscores an unhealthy narrative surrounding body image, where individuals feel that their natural state is something to be hidden or embarrassed about.
In terms of personal autonomy, the decision to embrace nudity even in a prank or bet should ultimately lie with the individuals involved and when the boys partake in this act together, it is a communal experience that recognizes their choices.
Lastly, humor can soften the criticism of nudity in this context. The act was initiated as a bet, itâs rooted in a playful, youthful spirit without malicious intent. Humor in adolescent experiences, including body-related jokes, is a natural part of youth culture.
I think the scene should not be viewed through a lens of shame or condemnation. Instead, it can be appreciated as a complex portrayal of friendship and body confidence.
And yeah, this is supposed to be a slow burn, but with the director saying theyâre wrapping up the entire book in this season? Thatâs where the worry creeps in. The pacing is off, and theyâve wasted time on subplots that werenât even in the book, leaving the actual main plot far behind. There are only three episodes left, and with how much they still need to cover, it feels like theyâre either going to rush through crucial moments or cut things out entirely. Itâs stressful because the slow, deliberate build of Tian and Wangâs relationship is everythingâand if they cram all of that into just a few episodes, weâll lose the emotional depth that makes this story so impactful. Itâs definitely worrisome, and Iâm hoping they pull it together, but Iâm not super optimistic about how theyâre going to fit everything in without it feeling rushed.
â ď¸ Spoilers ahead, brace yourselves! â ď¸
What truly left me breathless this episode was the ever-present weight of the âbrotherâ dynamic between Tian and Wang. Itâs been lingering in the background for a while, but in this episode, it really struck a nerve. Every time someone calls them brothers, it feels like a subtle, aching reminder of the walls between them. But when Wang himself called Tian "Ge"âthat moment shattered me. Up until now, the âbrotherâ label was something imposed on them by others, a label Tian had heard but never truly internalized. But hearing it from Wang, the one person who means the most to him, was like a dagger to the heart. And the worst part? We couldnât see Tianâs reaction because of those sunglasses, which, in this moment, became the cruelest barrier. I can only imagine the turmoil in his eyes, the way his emotions mustâve flickered across his face, hidden from us. The sunglasses robbed us of seeing the quiet devastation, and honestly, theyâre my enemy now. đ
Another moment that completely unraveled me was when Tian gave Wang that quiet command after noticing he was hurt. It echoed so beautifully with the scene in the earlier episodes where Tian, with that same blend of care and authority, told Wang to sit when he was drunk. Tian has this way of speaking thatâs both firm and gentle, like heâs taking charge of the situation but also protecting Wang in a way only he can. The tenderness wrapped in those commands, simple words, yet heavy with emotion just floors me every time. Itâs as if Tianâs concern for Wang is woven into every syllable, and honestly, if he ever told me to sit, Iâd be on the ground without a second thought. And if he told me to hop on his back, letâs just say I wouldnât need to be asked twice. Thereâs something so commanding yet soft in the way he speaks to Wang, and itâs impossible not to swoon.
And then, the moment weâve all been waiting forâWangâs not-so-subtle gay awakening. The way they handled that scene at the end? Perfection. The second Tian took off his shirt, you could see Wang completely losing his composure. It was written all over him, his body language, his flustered expression, the way his breath hitched. You could almost feel his internal struggle as he tried to process what he was seeing, but his body wasnât giving him any time to catch up. He was red-faced, stumbling over his own reactions, and the way the scene played out was both hilarious and incredibly sweet. It wasnât forced or exaggerated; it felt so authentic, so true to how someone in Wangâs position would respond in that moment of realization. đż
The phrase "an ellipse means there is something left unsaid" resonates deeply with Wang and Tian's relationship, encapsulating the tension, unspoken words, and the emotions that swirl between them. Their bond is filled with moments of near-confession, of emotions teetering on the edge of being fully expressed, yet always pulled back by circumstance, fear, or uncertainty. The ellipses are the silences between them, the pauses where words fail but the meaning is still felt, lingering in the air.
For Wang and Tian, itâs all about whatâs not said, the emotions theyâre afraid to voice aloud. Whether it's Wang calling Tian "Ge," a word that on the surface means brother but underneath carries a world of complex, conflicting feelings, or Tianâs quiet commands, filled with care that he doesnât dare put into softer wordsâtheir relationship is defined by these ellipses. Every glance, every moment of hesitation is an unspoken confession, a wordless admission of feelings too intense, too real, to be casually spoken aloud.
The ellipses between them aren't just gaps, they're charged with all the love, longing, and fear that they're both grappling with. In their pauses and silences, there's a universe of things left unsaid.
I think sometimes itâs better to not dig too deep into realism, especially with characters like this but from my perspective I think Jack was already at the edge, ready to give up, barely holding it together and then Joker shows up out of nowhere and offers him the one thing he thought heâd never get again: hope.
And the worst part? Joker snatched it away the same day he gave it to him. Itâs not just betrayal; itâs the emotional whiplash of being pulled back from the brink, only to be thrown right back into the void. Jack wasnât just mad because of what happenedâhe was mad because he actually believed for a second that things could change, and then it was ripped away before he could even fully process it. That kind of betrayal hits different, and I think thatâs why his anger burns so deep. Itâs not just about what Joker didâitâs about what he made Jack feel again, only to take it away.
Itâs almost like he projected all his unresolved feelings onto this situation. He didnât think about the consequences because, in that split second, it wasnât about what was ârightâ or âsmart.â It was about the emotional pull of seeing someone else chase what he couldnât, or hasnât yet, and wanting to do something good.
đ¸ Spoilers aheadđ¸
The anger, the frustration, everything Jack has kept locked away for so long, itâs there, simmering beneath his calm exterior, waiting to break free. And yet, when the moment finally arrives, when Jack has the chance to strike, to truly hurt Joker, something holds him back. Itâs in this hesitation, this pause, that we see the complexity of Jack. Maybe Iâm reading too much into it, maybe Iâm a little delusional, but when Joker's shoulder is cut, thereâs something so wild and untamed in Jack's eyes. For a split second, it felt like more than just rage, it felt like possession. In that moment, my mind couldnât help but think, "This is more than anger. Heâs protecting his man." đĽ LMAO
But thatâs the beauty of Jackâs character, he isnât consumed by the darkness around him, not completely. Even after five long years, years that couldâve turned him into something unrecognizable, a cold-hearted monster fueled by revenge, Jack is still Jack. Thereâs a kindness in him, a light that hasnât been snuffed out by the harsh realities of the world. Yes, heâs changed. Yes, heâs hardened. But at his core, he remains true to who he wasâa boy who believed in something better, in helping others, even if that part of him is now hidden beneath layers of cynicism and pain. If you look closely enough, you can still see the boy he once was, the one who was kind, gullible even, full of hope and trust.
And that is what makes Jack so compelling. Heâs a man now, carrying the weight of everything that has happened to him, yet still somehow clinging to that shred of humanity. It wouldâve been so easy for him to lose himself, to let the bitterness consume him, but he hasnât. He holds on to that piece of his heart that still believes in goodness, even if he has to guard it fiercely, even if itâs hidden deep within the walls heâs built.
Now let's talk about their dynamic which is an inferno. Every time they face off, itâs like the air between them thickens, charged with something primal, something electric. Itâs not just physical attraction, though thatâs undeniably there, it's something far more dangerous, more raw. Jack is a volcano on the verge of eruption, his anger bubbling up after years of being buried. And Joker? Joker is drowning in a sea of guilt, weighed down by the consequences of his actions.
When they fight Jackâs fury is SO VISIBLE, while Joker is a tangled mess of remorse and defiance. They are like two sides of the same coinâJack with all his pent-up rage, and Joker with his guilt, unable to find a way out of the labyrinth theyâve both been trapped in for years. The unspoken words between them, the unfinished business, it all builds, higher and higher, until it feels like somethingâs going to break.
Itâs chaos, and itâs beautiful. They are two broken people, spiraling toward one another in a whirlwind of emotion that neither can control. Jack with his burning desire for something to make sense again. Joker with his haunted past, his regret, and the knowledge that he may never be able to fix whatâs been broken.