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Replying to Mimicat Jul 4, 2022
Title KinnPorsche
Good morning love
Camp with me in the vice versa comment section 😭
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On KinnPorsche Jul 4, 2022
Title KinnPorsche
Eight years is a long time, but as we know build has offended many more people in the recent years too so this argument is truly null and void. He was a shitty person, so someone bringing this up is not being a hater. People are just holding him responsible for his actions. Build's personality exudes nothing but cheerfulness so it is a surprise to say the least, people have a right to feel disappointed. He made mistakes and no one should excuse that but it’s also up to him to prove that he has changed. No one is perfect but you can't sit here and claim he is being cancelled for no reason. He is facing the consequences and rightfully so because he needs to be held accountable. Let him take a break, let him reflect on his past and I'm sure he will return like a ray of sunshine ā¤ don't worry, his career won't be affected much, season 2 will have him as a main and he may even join the tour but for now just please allow him to think about what he has done without justifying anything.
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Replying to Heilin Jul 4, 2022
Title KinnPorsche
So I desided to spoil myself and read the ending of vol.1, and I am confused ( not by the ending but by the fans)…
Im not sure if u mean the sequel or the second part from the first book
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Replying to Calicomoon Jul 4, 2022
Title KinnPorsche
The angst just keeps piling up!! First ep13 devastated me, then the BoC statement today, then Build's statement,…
Take care of yourself babe he is gone be okay
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Replying to Mon123 Jul 4, 2022
Title KinnPorsche
Does it mean no more Vegas and Pete in the future ? That’s like killing the second couple?
Vegas and pete will be the mains of ss2 dw
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Replying to piercedprincessx Jul 4, 2022
Title KinnPorsche
ā€œAnd if this is the last day of mine I just wanna hold you in my armsā€œNow what do you mean by LAST DAY. BYE.
WHO SAID THIS
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Replying to PizzaWithPineapple Jul 4, 2022
Title KinnPorsche
There was a rumor that Yok will die or ?I mean Porchay is with Yok because his brother hides him there and the…
Someone from the cast said it yes
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Replying to zshafad Jul 4, 2022
Title KinnPorsche
Is there an English translation of Book 2? Where can I read it?
The sequel? Its out in November
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Replying to KinnPorsche Jul 4, 2022
Title KinnPorsche
GOOD MORNING MY KINNPORSCHE ADDICTS!!!!!!!ANYONE MISSSED ME?????
Good morning love
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Replying to Pyochisu Jul 3, 2022
Title Vice Versa
Literally... don't mind me, just moving my stuff in here early before it airs.
Make sure you bring snacks
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Replying to julieph Jul 3, 2022
Title KinnPorsche
I haven't read the novel so maybe that’s why I’m not quite understanding the VegasPete relationship; like,…
I'll drop my analysis here, hope it helps.

Pete and Vegas are both people who protect their hearts, they have chains locked around their emotions so it's hard for them to define any of this. They are closed off to the world and maybe they will be each other's freedom but it starts as an understanding. Vegas is currently seeking validation so he doesn't want to hurt Pete because he is the only one who can provide it. He unlocks something new and exciting far from reality and beyond heaven but not hell. It's again something right but at the same time wrong. Their relationship simply can't be described in black and white. The last close-up in ep 12 is very important with Pete is smiling like he feels fulfilled about unlocking this side of him, he finally allowed his dark side to come to the surface and it's clear he feels liberated.

The dynamic between these two characters is too complex to decipher. Both of them wear professional crafted masks. Vegas is a psycho seemingly without empathy. Pete, on the other hand, is a ray of sunshine with a layer of darkness underneath. Pete's desires are covered and Vegas is bringing them to the surface, we can already see that in episode 11-- he physically reacts when Vegas licks his face, his eyes close, he is shivering under vegas's tongue. Pete feels connected to Vegas because of his own childhood, they are bonding over their trauma and Vegas is reticent to connect with Pete but the chains are already tied between them both and there is no escape any more. Both Vegas and Pete will cave in irrevocably. And we can see the last drop of their self control when the hedgehog dies. Pete chooses to console him and Vegas willingly let's him. When Vegas hurts himself, Pete is finally discovering the unseen hatred he has towards himself and he tries to reason with him without success until Vegas brings his layered, cold behavior out again. He tries to lure Pete in a new game thinking he won't play along but Pete surprises him and takes the lead, easily winning. Vegas uses his body as a catalyst and it's electrifying. Their body language lays everything they feel bare for the audience to see. They are tiying the chains around them tighter, they strengthen their connection through physical attachment. An other thing I want to point out is Vegas's blood type. AB means universal receiver, he will take any love he can get because he's that starved for it and Pete's blood type is O which means universal donar, he has the capacity of loving anyone and this is a clear metaphor for the receiving dynamics and I admire the details in the show.

His father also plays a role in their dynamic, Kan is truly malicious, he knows hedgehogs have an incredibly short lifespan yet he chooses to give Vegas something to bind himself to, only to have it snatched from him again and again. Vegas is starved for affection and his father can easily see that, he knows Vegas will hang by anything that is willing to give him a drop of love and kan continues to gift him these pets in order to have him roll in the same path of grief over and over again.

In the end Vegas is the one who is trapped. The same man who likes to be ahead of everyone, who is calculated enough to over do everyone, simply doesn't know what to do anymore. He is scared. He is actually afraid of the consequences because it'll all be like a chain reaction. He is the vulnerable one despite being free, he may not have physical restraints but I assure you his head is in a cage.

Now compared to the novel, their story seems to go faster than the speedlight, it's extremely rushed which is why I don't think that what they currently have can be called "love".

I don't think it's anything rational to begin with. To me it seems like they developed an emotional support that they gradually got addicted to. Vegas is layered with so much affection but there is an unabashed violence to this because of his trauma as for Pete, he seems to free himself into chains, he was masked with this fake appearance his entire life and now Vegas undressed him, leaving his dark side exposed and Pete can finally be himself. Vegas is the other way around, he can be evil when he pleases but his sensitivity must be hidden from the world, with Pete he is able to let it out.

They are literally like Yin and Yang. They need each other for balance. Pete needs Vegas to be dark and Vegas needs Pete to be light. It's not love, it's balance.

The scene where Pete was "eating" the ramyeon and breaks down crying reminded me that he is alone, no one really knows him beside Vegas. No one really cares for him either, you can argue that Porsche is one of those people but considering that after he witnessed the damage on Pete's body and still decided to sell his best friend to the man who abused him for some information proves that Porsche is selfish and he never once returned the deep love Pete has for him, in fact to me it's not even mutual.

Vegas and Pete can't kill each other because if one of them dies, the other will crumble. If one of them is hurt the other one will shatter in pain. That's why Pete couldn't pull the trigger.

They honestly broke my heart, together & individually. Vegas is constantly reminded of his lack of worth and when he finally stood up to his father he was pushed right back in the corner. And did you see how joyful he was when preparing that food? It was so detailed and well thought only to be thrown away by his father.

Also can we talk about the tenderness with which vegas treats Pete in the moments where he lets himself be vulnerable? He looks at Pete like he's the most precious thing he's ever laid his eyes on, he touches him as if he was a fragile treasure that was too frail to break. Especially when he comes down from his anger and suddenly turns into a little puppy, you see his eyes change and you realize he is guided by his feelings for Pete.

Honestly, even though their story is going faster than expected it surprises me how three episodes managed to get me this invested, the writers are following through with all the angst and twisted devotion between them and it's truly gratifying to watch.

I think the development was carefully done and rightfully so because it's a very complex story and I'm glad they didn't present vegaspete as " in love " under these 3 episodes because like I said above, to me it's all about balance and addiction, it's something that has the potential of turning into love. I’m so happy both characters have been given adequate time to process their individual trauma and desires.
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Replying to Bluesake Jul 3, 2022
Title KinnPorsche
The thought of this ending next week is giving me low key anxiety. If it wasn’t for mile/apo having another…
I'd throw myself to mars idec
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Replying to MyuBL Jul 3, 2022
Title KinnPorsche Spoiler
everyone talking about Vegas Pete but is it me or are Kinn and Porsche literal cousins??? legit like Vegas is…
Do u want a novel spoiler to clarify this
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Replying to Mimicat Jul 3, 2022
Title KinnPorsche
Realistically speaking pete would not be diagnosed with Stockholm Syndrome for a variety of reasons so please…
Thank you smā¤ I try my best šŸ˜­šŸˆā€ā¬›
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Replying to Mimicat Jul 3, 2022
Title KinnPorsche
Realistically speaking pete would not be diagnosed with Stockholm Syndrome for a variety of reasons so please…
We all have different perspectives, after all its a fictional universe so we are each entitled to see it how we like hehe
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Replying to Mimicat Jul 3, 2022
Title KinnPorsche
I think people are throwing this " Stockholm syndrome " way to easily on Pete. What they are diagnosing him with…
This sort of romance is aimed at and marketed to people who are meant to be mature enough to see it for what it is, and to distinguish between the morality and ethics of real life and those of a deeply immoral, fundamentally unethical fictional universe.
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Replying to Meera Jul 3, 2022
Title KinnPorsche
Why does the teaser of the episode 14 say longest episode?Like how long?
We don't know but maybe 1.30 hour
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Replying to Cocoa Butter Brown Skin Jul 3, 2022
Title KinnPorsche
Vegas & Pete's relationship started off very toxic; however I love the complexities of these 2 characters,Bible/Build…
THEY DESERVE AN OSCAR
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Replying to Mimicat Jul 3, 2022
Title KinnPorsche
Realistically speaking pete would not be diagnosed with Stockholm Syndrome for a variety of reasons so please…
Falling in love with your abuser isn't all what Stockholm syndrome is, there are many components to be added to this. This is what I mean when I say people are throwing this way to easily.
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Replying to Mimicat Jul 3, 2022
Title KinnPorsche
Realistically speaking pete would not be diagnosed with Stockholm Syndrome for a variety of reasons so please…
I do have a very strong opinion on that because its a very serious condition and like I said down below I think people are throwing this " Stockholm syndrome " way to easily on Pete. What you are diagnosing him with is a coping mechanism to a captive or abusive situation. People develop positive feelings toward their captors or abusers over time. Pete has never once thought that what Vegas is doing is right, he acknowledges the bad behavior and even points it out when he calls him a psychopath, he is perfectly capable of going against Vegas and this alone already takes out the possibility of him having Stockholm Syndrome. Someone developing this would never try to escape and we see Pete doing that several times although he backed down to take care of Vegas, seeing him take the handcuffs off is already enough to know he has the capacity of running from his abuser. An other thing is that Pete is a trained bodyguard, he is stronger than you think, he himself tortured and killed people so this is not new, he knows how this works. Then there is their body language, Stockholm Syndrome IS A COPING MECHANISM and Pete is not helpless, in the contrary he has the power in this situation and Vegas is the one who is weak. HE KNOWS he needs to get away from Vegas -- He is not in denial.

The only argument here would be Trauma bonding but this thing occurs often so I don't consider it that significant. Usually the hostage parties develops negative feelings towards the one's that are attempting rescue them and this isn't the case because like I said, Pete tried to escape which is something a person with a Stockholm syndrome wouldn't do, not to that extend. Also these individuals are generally not harmed by their captors and may even be treated with kindness but we saw Vegas hurt Pete not just imprisoned him so it's really unlikely. I actually had a conversation about this with someone close to me, they are a psychologist and they confirmed that realistically speaking Pete does not show any signs of this syndrome besides trauma bonding but considering how common that is, its not that significant here therefore diagnosing him with it doesn't make sense.
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