I know I am in the minority. I am enjoying this series a lot but I just can't get behind Pete/Vegas. I can't erased…
Realistically speaking pete would not be diagnosed with Stockholm Syndrome for a variety of reasons so please don't throw that word around so easily ❤ and its okay if they make you uncomfortable, its a very, twisted complex story that's not made for everybody so I hope you can enjoy the other aspects of the show.
I'm curious about one thing and would like to ask your opinion about-"Does the whole VegasPete ship is an example…
I think people are throwing this " Stockholm syndrome " way to easily on Pete. What they are diagnosing him with is a coping mechanism to a captive or abusive situation. People develop positive feelings toward their captors or abusers over time. Pete has never once thought that what Vegas is doing is right, he acknowledges the bad behavior and even points it out when he calls him a psychopath, he is perfectly capable of going against Vegas and this alone already takes out the possibility of him having Stockholm Syndrome. Someone developing this would never try to escape and we see Pete doing that several times although he backed down to take care of Vegas, seeing him take the handcuffs off is already enough to know he has the capacity of running from his abuser. An other thing is that Pete is a trained bodyguard, he is stronger than you think, he himself tortured and killed people so this is not new, he knows how this works. Then there is their body language, Stockholm Syndrome IS A COPING MECHANISM and Pete is not helpless, in the contrary he has the power in this situation and Vegas is the one who is weak. HE KNOWS he needs to get away from Vegas -- He is not in denial.
The only argument here would be Trauma bonding but this thing occurs often so I don't consider it that significant. Usually the hostage parties develops negative feelings towards the one's that are attempting rescue them and this isn't the case because like I said, Pete tried to escape which is something a person with a Stockholm syndrome wouldn't do, not to that extend. Also these individuals are generally not harmed by their captors and may even be treated with kindness but we saw Vegas hurt Pete not just imprisoned him so it's really unlikely. After all it's a fictional character so people making this assumption is okay but I don't think they have any source of material to justify it as a fact like many tried before. If that's their perspective then that's fine but realistically speaking Pete would not be diagnosed with it.
Many of us analyzed how vegas weaponized his trauma into a violent sense of abuse, but I'm seeing a lot of people are quite baffled getting to know the dark side of pete which Vegas easily brings to the surface. I believe you all were blinded by his appearance but his tattoo says it all "no legacy is so rich as honesty"
Although vegas is starved for achievement, Pete is different because he actually won the battle, but that didn't matter and it still doesn't. He contributes to his surroundings daily yet he’s never actually seen. He puts so much emotional labor in every friendship but he’s still secondary to their choices, no one will put him first because everyone who he already knows has a special number 1 so he is never the main character.
Pete is not getting recognized no matter the effort just like Vegas although the circumstances differ, the situations are the same. I mean we already witnessed it, Pete can disappear and the people who claim to love him wouldn’t even notice until the maniac of the house brings it up ( no hate to khun, he's an icon and possibly the smartest one around ) my point is that Pete keeps being the wingman to others, he's always somewhere in the background, solving the problems for everyone.
While yes, he is loved by tankhun who was the only one to actually give a shit while he was gone, he’s still a subordinate and not a friend and at the end of the day even khun doesn't know him, he's attached to Pete because he's the only one reliable enough to spend time with him and give him the joy he needs
He puts his heart in everything and yet it's never compensated, the sad thing is that he doesn't even expect anything in return, he just does it with no reward but that doesn’t mean he doesn’t crave actknowledgement , he just keeps quiet about it because he's afraid of feeling like a burden, he's just here to spread smiles after all.
Making other's happy is the most familiar thing he knows but deep down he is also needy for more because he is still suffering from his father's abuse, he can’t distance himself from the violence, I mean it's his whole environment considering the job he chose for himself. It's the only thing making him feel alive, he’s so greedy for the slightest recognizion that even torture feeds his need.
He’s so used to finding patterns in people in order to make them smile that he easily breaks through Vegas's wall, he didn't comfort him because he cares for him, it was an instinct which gradually grew into something else once he started to get attached and vegas is so caught up with the idea that someone understood him that he starts seeing pete as an extension of him so he starts projecting this into little actions that moves pete’s heart.
kp episode 13 analysis:first, let us talk about vegaspete. i honestly think that their storyline is kind of rushed.…
Like I said previously, their story is moving faster than the speed light but their dynamic somehow stays the same. Vegas's soul is crafted with so much violence. He has thorns all over, he is dangerous to the touch and Pete is willing to take the pain unlike everyone else who had this fear of an unruly demise. Pete embraces the rough edges of vegas, he let's himself be an outlet for escape. These two characters are too complex to decipher. Pete feels connected to Vegas because of his own childhood, they are bonding over their trauma and Vegas is reticent to connect with him. Both Vegas and Pete caved in irrevocably but the redemption arc isn't even nearly as satisfying as it should be. We witness Vegas use Pete's body as a catalyst and vice versa but we haven't seen too much of their romantic attachments because there were too many time skips, I hope they make up for it somehow because I'd like to see the brighter side of it as well. I'm not even gone comment on the Porsche situation because his entire development is going down hill, he became so self centered that it's getting upsetting for me to watch, he threw his best friend in the arms of his abuser and I'll never forgive him for that
So everyone dragged my boy vegas for lasting 30 seconds although the scene was obviously cut but no one is roasting kinn for ending it in under a minute in the pool scene? Okay double standards 🖐
They showed us yesterday that they didn't only exlude the intimate scenes, but basically their whole relationship…
Exactly and I don't get it because literally more than half of the bl's actors started having sex scenes at the age of 16 with adults and no one said shit
They showed us yesterday that they didn't only exlude the intimate scenes, but basically their whole relationship…
Oh yes for sure, I don't want them to be replaced because Im deeply attached to barcode's acting by now but im just saying that if they planned to abide by the Western culture then they should have just casted someone over 18 instead of robbing us from so many scenes
The only argument here would be Trauma bonding but this thing occurs often so I don't consider it that significant. Usually the hostage parties develops negative feelings towards the one's that are attempting rescue them and this isn't the case because like I said, Pete tried to escape which is something a person with a Stockholm syndrome wouldn't do, not to that extend. Also these individuals are generally not harmed by their captors and may even be treated with kindness but we saw Vegas hurt Pete not just imprisoned him so it's really unlikely. After all it's a fictional character so people making this assumption is okay but I don't think they have any source of material to justify it as a fact like many tried before. If that's their perspective then that's fine but realistically speaking Pete would not be diagnosed with it.
Although vegas is starved for achievement, Pete is different because he actually won the battle, but that didn't matter and it still doesn't. He contributes to his surroundings daily yet he’s never actually seen. He puts so much emotional labor in every friendship but he’s still secondary to their choices, no one will put him first because everyone who he already knows has a special number 1 so he is never the main character.
Pete is not getting recognized no matter the effort just like Vegas although the circumstances differ, the situations are the same. I mean we already witnessed it, Pete can disappear and the people who claim to love him wouldn’t even notice until the maniac of the house brings it up ( no hate to khun, he's an icon and possibly the smartest one around ) my point is that Pete keeps being the wingman to others, he's always somewhere in the background, solving the problems for everyone.
While yes, he is loved by tankhun who was the only one to actually give a shit while he was gone, he’s still a subordinate and not a friend and at the end of the day even khun doesn't know him, he's attached to Pete because he's the only one reliable enough to spend time with him and give him the joy he needs
He puts his heart in everything and yet it's never compensated, the sad thing is that he doesn't even expect anything in return, he just does it with no reward but that doesn’t mean he doesn’t crave actknowledgement , he just keeps quiet about it because he's afraid of feeling like a burden, he's just here to spread smiles after all.
Making other's happy is the most familiar thing he knows but deep down he is also needy for more because he is still suffering from his father's abuse, he can’t distance himself from the violence, I mean it's his whole environment considering the job he chose for himself. It's the only thing making him feel alive, he’s so greedy for the slightest recognizion that even torture feeds his need.
He’s so used to finding patterns in people in order to make them smile that he easily breaks through Vegas's wall, he didn't comfort him because he cares for him, it was an instinct which gradually grew into something else once he started to get attached and vegas is so caught up with the idea that someone understood him that he starts seeing pete as an extension of him so he starts projecting this into little actions that moves pete’s heart.