monstersnroses

I watch asian dramas because they haven't been infected with Woke programming. At least.... not yet anyways. I've seen some woke bullcrap in some k-dramas like Itaewon Class... but most are ok. But even Hallmark is badly badly infected with woke at this point. I find it unwatchable in the extreme.

so-so. like it or hate it, it's worth checking out at least to decide for yourself.

This is one of the more civilized comments sections on MDL right now, where you can still have a decent discussion with people who you don't agree with and laugh about stuff and at least still be ok about disagreements. Unlike a lot of the pages I've come across lately where if you don't agree with people you get attacked most viciously. This is a good crowd.

I don't have a big problem with drama age gaps, sometimes they're hot. But to think that in RL there's no problem with them is a little bit misleading. If they go long term they face MAJOR challenges, lots of them. I could get into it because I have some really up close personal experience with major age gap relationships. It's not pretty. Once one of them passes about the age of 60, things get extremely challenging. I don't think it's necessarily wrong to be in a relationship like that, but it is HARDER than being in a conventional relationship, and for most people I'd think it's probably not worth it in the end because of all the suffering that can go along with it. Some people like to say "age is just a number", but it's not. Age is a reality that can't be worked around. What happens when you're in a sexy relationship with great sex, and then one of the people can no longer have sex? What if you want to hug someone tight, but you can no longer do that because they could bruise? What if you can't go on your favorite walks anymore or have to move out of your dream house because your lover can't safely use the stairs anymore? What if you spend 20 years of your life walking at half-speed because your lover can't keep pace with you anymore? What if you spend 10 of your middle years bathing and dressing your lover who can't do it themselves, and you slip a disc in your lower back, and end up half crippled during what are supposed to be your prime years? How sexy is it when everywhere you go, people assume you are with your mother or your father? And your friends don't want to come over for dinner anymore?

There's a lot of things that challenge a RL age gap LTR. Your love will constantly be tested, and at some point before one partner is ready, your sex life will pretty much come to an end before your body thinks its time.

I've seen people in these relationships devoted to eachother, and I'd never say it was "wrong". But it takes a toll on everyone involved.

They say in the drama that he's "almost 30", and there's characters talking about how that's why he has to get married, it's at the beginning episodes of the show. So he was written AS a young character. At least if you consider late 20's to be young, anyways. He wasn't written as like the literal mythical god of war, I think it's like the honorary title they bestowed upon him. But he has no special godlike abilities, he's just a 29 year old normal mortal guy.

"Almost 30"

It's not so much about the age gap as it is about the actor being close to 20 years older than the role he's playing.

mehhhy but were they even really married though? The fact that she ended up hitched to him was pretty bullshit to begin with, and he wasn't nice to her when he came back at all... from an outsider's point of view, she was being abused, and the marraige was on iffy technical and moral grounds, really. I mean I do get what you're saying though. But I just ship the 2ML because he's hot, so of course I'd come up with any reason to defend him.

If I were 2ML, I'd try to steal her, and if I was FL, I'd pray someone sexy and nice would come and try to steal me. She married his coffin under an assumed identity. She stayed in the rain for him and got her dress all poisoned and all that stuff, and he still didn't treat her very well for quite some time... but she stayed because where else is she gonna go. From the moment her parents gave her away to get buried with the dead husband, she's been basically destitute, homeless, penniless, no support network whatsoever, and she has to ingratiate herself to the ML in order to survive. The power balance is so off, she can't really fall in love, she can only do what she has to to survive. He treats her like shit, so she makes him candy and smiles harder. And still he treats her like shit, so still she tries harder. That's not a healthy response, really. But without his grace, she'll starve in the street. After all that (family trying to kill her, nanny dying, ML treating her like crap, poisoned dress etc), she's probably Stockholmed.

So.... I think sexy 2ML is somewhat justified. Just personally.

> "...then they should..."

it's right there in your comment.

Well, that's what I mean, he should have just marched straight over there, and hurt him badly. Instead he LARPed as the FL and cut her off from him, even though he knows she likes him and respects him. That's not very alpha. The alpha thing to do, instead of being so deceptive and weaselly and manipulative.... is to just beat the shit out of him. I could have respected him if he'd done that.

The archetypal pairing of ML(power/security) + FL(beauty) that naturally lends itself to big age gaps where the man is older than the woman by a lot... is really fairly cross-cultural and timeless. Same thing with multiple wives.

Some people are squeamish or not cool with those ideas, and some people are more accepting. I for one, fall into the former category.

I STILL don't get why, if they knew going in that they were going to cast a gizzardy 50 year old for the ML role, then why the F*CK did they cast such an attractive 2ML?!?! That's not how this works, that's not how any of this works.

> No drama is perfect

Irrelevant.

For me, it's because the character is supposed to be not-quite-30, and he clearly is nowhere near that. And also the rubbish hair and makeup doesn't help. There were even some closeups where you can see his wig-line pretty clearly, with the little dot-pattern and everything.

Another thing he did that pissed me off, was the 2ML slingshotted that letter over the fence to the FL telling her he'll try to bust her out... and the ML impersonated the FL and wrote a letter back telling the 2ML to fuck off basically. THAT IS NOT KEW!!! It's taking the FL's choices and her freedom away from her. It would have been WAY more manly and alpha to get the 2ML letter, read it, and then come marching outside to say "hey, stay the fuck away from my woman!" Or better yet. To give the FL the letter and say "you're free to choose what to do, but I hope you decide to stay, and even if you leave, I won't give up trying to win you back." But what he did there was horrible. Just imo.

And the kiss scenes.... it looks like Michael Douglas making out with a cheerleader or something. I can't concentrate on anything but his strange looking neck. Seriously where were the stylists on this one. Even if they had just draped his hair over his shoulder to cover his neck and throat it would have been less distracting.

It's not horrifying. You know what IS horrifying is you goose-stepping into the comments section of a show you have no interest in, and demand strangers to get doxxy on a public forum just to satisfy your smug need for confrontation and moral superiority. Do you smell your own farts too?

If that were the case, why would I even bother watching at all. I don't tend to start -let alone finish - dramas with a premise I find morally repugnant. I can't imagine why anyone would. Reminds me of the pearl-clutchers who watched Hidden Love and then screeched about the age gap. If it's the main reason why YOU don't like it, that's fine with me idgaf.

Hmm, that explains ELOD.

I figured that must be why they gave him the role. Like in America, George Clooney and Sean Connery were both playing younger parts well past their prime, due entirely to their fame-level.

Lucky....

The script is written for a 30yo ML character. Idgaf how old the guy is, but he can't pass as a 30yo character. And I don't like it when it's a 45yo female trying to pass as a 30yo character either. Not that I ever recall seeing such a thing... It's the same if an 18yo actor was cast to play a 12yo character. Or a bunch of late 20's/early 30's actors playing high school students. It has to at least be plausible ffs. What is this telling people what they "should" do.

I bet when they met, she didn't think he was 30.