What blows a hole in your theory is that most romance Kdramas have CEO rich guy as the ML.And these men are all…
yard stick should be all dramas coming out of the same industry.
Isn't that how we measure how a drama is? Against other ones? The tropes in Kdrama cutting across dramas are same, including this one.
The most important trope in each and every kdrama is -> the ML is madly in love with FL. The FL loves ML but she has other important people and things to do. This is basically every Kdrama.
Did you saw her having sex with her current husband?It is clearly they never had sex from the way they act and…
The husband may be a creep but until now there is nothing that shows the husband as nothing but a good person albeit the inability to let a cheating hoe go.
being an ass in high school is not the same as being a bad person now.
Most kids are assholes in school. That's just kids being kids. If that is the case, ML is a bigger ass, he even beats up people, including the husband.
The problem I have is people looking at FL and coming to the conclusion that she is anything but a cheating kunt is beyond me. If this was a man who was cheating on his newly wed wife, we would be asking for his neck. The duplicity just because it;s a woman doing it is astounding.
there are some who keep portraying the false notion that being married to has implicit understanding that the couple become one but sex is not an implicit part of it. The very meaning of marriage is becoming one in body and mind. While that's an ideal position which many couple strive to achieve and few actually achieve, married couples give it a try.
By default if you are marrying someone of free will, it is absolutely implied that having sex with the person you are marrying to is a basic expectation. It is not just a position but an actual requirement in law. A marriage can exist without sex if there is an understanding but if one party expects and another does not give, it is cruelty and basis for divorce. The law is very explicit, 'denial of sex in marriage is cruelty'. There have been comprehensive studies of what happens to the person who has been been denied sex, the trauma they go through and negative impact it has on their mental and physical health.
By default, unless explicitly agreed before marriage, ala a fake marriage where boundaries set, a marriage is an implicit agreement to have sex and procreate. In fact the meaning of the word marriage implies 'procreation' amongst a host of other things. Unless you have sex you can't procreate.
There is no country and no social norm that blurs the meaning of marriage as an union without sex.
If anything, it's the other way around. Even dating implies sex now a days. If you are on few dates, in most scenarios you are expected to show some physical intimacy, if not outright sex, as example a kiss.
If dating expects intimacy, then marriage expects intimacy by default, especially if you are entering a marriage willingly.
This does not mean a man can force himself upon his wife, that is a crime. It also means a wife on the day of the marriage tells his husband there will be no sex in their marriage is being cruel to the husband and possibly cheating.
Both are wrong, not just socially but also legally.
Why are many viewers acting emotional towards Yeo Eunwa & Seo Dongju in this drama. We all need to understand…
What blows a hole in your theory is that most romance Kdramas have CEO rich guy as the ML. And these men are all very firm in their love for the FL in these dramas. They don't waver, always simp for the FL even if she is with someone else etc etc. They will wait and wait and wait without ever looking at any other women.
You can build characters how ever you want. You can make a rich heiress like the FL be madly in love with FL to the point of willing to give up everything for him, like most kdrama romance ML's do for the FL.
Did you saw her having sex with her current husband?It is clearly they never had sex from the way they act and…
There are something called 'marriage vows'. Go through them, they are not legally binding but they are promises you make to each other when getting married.
A no is a no. and denial of sex is cruelty.
You lot keep professing only one half of it, conveniently side stepping the other half.
FL lied to ML. She was living with him when she was engaged to a guy she was ok to marry for shares. Like ML said…
That's exactly what I said. You kept assuming a position I never once agreed to. You should re-read my post I made above, let me post it for you so that you stop blowing yourself.
I suspect we agree on what i suspect is your main point, which is -> no matter what, no man should touch his wife or any woman who says No. At this point any man even a husband if he forces himself is just a rapist and must be castrated and then hanged.
Let's get that out of the way.
There are 3 scenarios that happen in life
Scenario 1 -> Married couple have sex regularly and wife says no, now and then. It is perfectly fine and zero issues. Husband should back off.
Scenario 2 -> Married couple who used to have sex regularly, now completely stopped. Wife says no constantly and consistently. husband should back off. Wife as per law in most countries, including all western countries, is committing cruelty against her husband and is a perfectly valid reason for divorce. The husband now has a choice to stay put or get a divorce. Even this scenario is acceptable. Love ran it's course and the wife does not want anything to with the man. Next step is divorce or an understanding.
Scenario 3 -> Man and a woman get married and the wife on the day of the marriage gives a middle finger to the husband and says there won't be sex, ever. In this scenario, the wife is a horrible person who just destroyed the poor sods life. The poor sod should still keep his hands to himself but the fact remains that the wife in this specific scenario is a huge B and deserves to be destroyed.
Coming to the discussion, I was NOT talking about scenario 1 or scenario 2. I was talking about only scenario 3.
THAT WAS what I POSTED.
The only point I was pointing to are the responsibilities that comes with agreeing to a marriage and one of them is sex. No man should ever force himself on a woman, ever, no matter the situation. And on flip side, if you marry someone and state an hour after the marriage that there will never be sex in the marriage, you are dumb retard Ahole who destroyed your spouses life.
Marital rape is a crime Denial of sex is cruelty. Go and check, both are in legal frameworks of most countries and all western nations.
saying only one half of it is something only DUMB RETARDED people would do.
She has no regrets.Even after marriage her grandfather asked her to choose shares or ML.He even said he would…
No she did not. Grandfather gave her the offer and she declined and went back to her husband to be a part time wife and full time cheater.
The only reason I am using this language for the FL to show the reality of this character. Lot of people were pretty much mild about what FL has done and made it look it she did nothing wrong.
Sometimes, a strong language is needed to show the reality.
FL lied to ML. She was living with him when she was engaged to a guy she was ok to marry for shares. Like ML said…
Sure, there are a lot of sexless marriages in the world. And as per law denying sex is cruelty in most countries of the world and ground for divorce. Let's revisit the word 'cruelty'. but usually this happens sometime into the marriage & it's understandable. The love and marriage ran it's course and like I mentioned it's either compromise or divorce - This scenario is perfectly fine.
Most marriages start with lot of sex, then the sex starts slowing down, then trickles....
But in this drama, the sex never happens. Even saying the wife does not owe sex means you are ok with a woman being cruel to man. It's not me saying it, it's the law saying it. As per law in most countries, willingly denying sex for long periods is CRUELTY..period. The person being denied sex suffers, it's not me saying it, it's the law. You are ok with a husband being subjected to cruelty by his wife?
The husband should divorce, I agree with you, but that does not absolve the cruelty of the FL. Not only is she cruel, she is always looking for ways to fk another man being married. That's just a pathetic hoe at this point.
FL lied to ML. She was living with him when she was engaged to a guy she was ok to marry for shares. Like ML said…
I suspect we agree on what i suspect is your main point, which is -> no matter what, no man should touch his wife or any woman who says No. At this point any man even a husband if he forces himself is just a rapist and must be castrated and then hanged.
Let's get that out of the way.
There are 3 scenarios that happen in life
Scenario 1 -> Married couple have sex regularly and wife says no, now and then. It is perfectly fine and zero issues. Husband should back off.
Scenario 2 -> Married couple who used to have sex regularly, now completely stopped. Wife says no constantly and consistently. husband should back off. Wife as per law in most countries, including all western countries, is committing cruelty against her husband and is a perfectly valid reason for divorce. The husband now has a choice to stay put or get a divorce. Even this scenario is acceptable. Love ran it's course and the wife does not want anything to with the man. Next step is divorce or an understanding.
Scenario 3 -> Man and a woman get married and the wife on the day of the marriage gives a middle finger to the husband and says there won't be sex, ever. In this scenario, the wife is a horrible person who just destroyed the poor sods life. The poor sod should still keep his hands to himself but the fact remains that the wife in this specific scenario is a huge B and deserves to be destroyed.
Coming to the discussion, I was NOT talking about scenario 1 or scenario 2. I was talking about only scenario 3.
Your language is too explicit and frankly sexist. This is the 21st century and wether this is a tv character or…
This is the most insane take. You talk about a fked up FL in a drama, then it's about all women?!!
First, Go back to school.
It's shocking to see people supporting this filthy FL by equating this filth to all women, No dear, most women are nice and are not like the filthy FL.
regarding filthy language, these dramas have FL abusing ML with words like 'Ass Hole', 'b@stard', 'Son of a Bitch' etc etc..in almost every drama. So, it's par for course.
If you have problems with language, you need to start with these dramas and ensure the language is appropriate before preaching to viewers.
Isn't that how we measure how a drama is? Against other ones?
The tropes in Kdrama cutting across dramas are same, including this one.
The most important trope in each and every kdrama is -> the ML is madly in love with FL. The FL loves ML but she has other important people and things to do.
This is basically every Kdrama.
That's NOT what we are discussing or what's happening in the drama.
Not only is she not putting out for the husband, she is putting out for another guy. She is what we call a cheating kunt.
being an ass in high school is not the same as being a bad person now.
Most kids are assholes in school. That's just kids being kids.
If that is the case, ML is a bigger ass, he even beats up people, including the husband.
The problem I have is people looking at FL and coming to the conclusion that she is anything but a cheating kunt is beyond me.
If this was a man who was cheating on his newly wed wife, we would be asking for his neck.
The duplicity just because it;s a woman doing it is astounding.
The very meaning of marriage is becoming one in body and mind. While that's an ideal position which many couple strive to achieve and few actually achieve, married couples give it a try.
By default if you are marrying someone of free will, it is absolutely implied that having sex with the person you are marrying to is a basic expectation.
It is not just a position but an actual requirement in law. A marriage can exist without sex if there is an understanding but if one party expects and another does not give, it is cruelty and basis for divorce.
The law is very explicit, 'denial of sex in marriage is cruelty'. There have been comprehensive studies of what happens to the person who has been been denied sex, the trauma they go through and negative impact it has on their mental and physical health.
By default, unless explicitly agreed before marriage, ala a fake marriage where boundaries set, a marriage is an implicit agreement to have sex and procreate.
In fact the meaning of the word marriage implies 'procreation' amongst a host of other things. Unless you have sex you can't procreate.
There is no country and no social norm that blurs the meaning of marriage as an union without sex.
If anything, it's the other way around. Even dating implies sex now a days. If you are on few dates, in most scenarios you are expected to show some physical intimacy, if not outright sex, as example a kiss.
If dating expects intimacy, then marriage expects intimacy by default, especially if you are entering a marriage willingly.
This does not mean a man can force himself upon his wife, that is a crime.
It also means a wife on the day of the marriage tells his husband there will be no sex in their marriage is being cruel to the husband and possibly cheating.
Both are wrong, not just socially but also legally.
History is proof that even the most badass men tend to screw themselves because of love
And these men are all very firm in their love for the FL in these dramas.
They don't waver, always simp for the FL even if she is with someone else etc etc. They will wait and wait and wait without ever looking at any other women.
You can build characters how ever you want.
You can make a rich heiress like the FL be madly in love with FL to the point of willing to give up everything for him, like most kdrama romance ML's do for the FL.
there are millions of arranged marriages that happen across the world every week and they are as successful as love marriages.
its shocking to read some one say, even if its an arranged marriage that you agreed to, you have no responsibilities to your spouse!!
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The husband absolutely innocent.
The only thing he should have done is expose the kunt of the FL and kick her out of the house and hold his ground.
All Kdramas have ML crying after the FL.
would ever be ok with a woman chasing after a man who screwed her and married some other women?
Go through them, they are not legally binding but they are promises you make to each other when getting married.
A no is a no.
and denial of sex is cruelty.
You lot keep professing only one half of it, conveniently side stepping the other half.
That's DUPLICITY
That was one of the themes explored in the drama.
No one ever made ML of the drama as a paragon of virtue and sang his peons.
You kept assuming a position I never once agreed to. You should re-read my post I made above, let me post it for you so that you stop blowing yourself.
I suspect we agree on what i suspect is your main point, which is -> no matter what, no man should touch his wife or any woman who says No. At this point any man even a husband if he forces himself is just a rapist and must be castrated and then hanged.
Let's get that out of the way.
There are 3 scenarios that happen in life
Scenario 1 -> Married couple have sex regularly and wife says no, now and then. It is perfectly fine and zero issues. Husband should back off.
Scenario 2 -> Married couple who used to have sex regularly, now completely stopped. Wife says no constantly and consistently. husband should back off. Wife as per law in most countries, including all western countries, is committing cruelty against her husband and is a perfectly valid reason for divorce. The husband now has a choice to stay put or get a divorce.
Even this scenario is acceptable. Love ran it's course and the wife does not want anything to with the man. Next step is divorce or an understanding.
Scenario 3 -> Man and a woman get married and the wife on the day of the marriage gives a middle finger to the husband and says there won't be sex, ever.
In this scenario, the wife is a horrible person who just destroyed the poor sods life. The poor sod should still keep his hands to himself but the fact remains that the wife in this specific scenario is a huge B and deserves to be destroyed.
Coming to the discussion, I was NOT talking about scenario 1 or scenario 2.
I was talking about only scenario 3.
THAT WAS what I POSTED.
The only point I was pointing to are the responsibilities that comes with agreeing to a marriage and one of them is sex.
No man should ever force himself on a woman, ever, no matter the situation.
And on flip side, if you marry someone and state an hour after the marriage that there will never be sex in the marriage, you are dumb retard Ahole who destroyed your spouses life.
Marital rape is a crime
Denial of sex is cruelty.
Go and check, both are in legal frameworks of most countries and all western nations.
saying only one half of it is something only DUMB RETARDED people would do.
Grandfather gave her the offer and she declined and went back to her husband to be a part time wife and full time cheater.
The only reason I am using this language for the FL to show the reality of this character.
Lot of people were pretty much mild about what FL has done and made it look it she did nothing wrong.
Sometimes, a strong language is needed to show the reality.
I will trash him even worse.
Just making assumptions that I would not trash a similar ML is poor taste.
In fact, I trashed ML of this drama for being a pathetic wimpy simp.
The only person I have sympathies for is the poor sod of that husband.
Don't say 'if ML was like that' ever.
Just point me to a drama where the ML is like this and I will trash that character for being bad.
Again, don't mistake me trashing these characters as not liking them.
I like them and I will trash them because that's what these forums are for.
And as per law denying sex is cruelty in most countries of the world and ground for divorce.
Let's revisit the word 'cruelty'.
but usually this happens sometime into the marriage & it's understandable. The love and marriage ran it's course and like I mentioned it's either compromise or divorce - This scenario is perfectly fine.
Most marriages start with lot of sex, then the sex starts slowing down, then trickles....
But in this drama, the sex never happens.
Even saying the wife does not owe sex means you are ok with a woman being cruel to man. It's not me saying it, it's the law saying it.
As per law in most countries, willingly denying sex for long periods is CRUELTY..period.
The person being denied sex suffers, it's not me saying it, it's the law.
You are ok with a husband being subjected to cruelty by his wife?
The husband should divorce, I agree with you, but that does not absolve the cruelty of the FL.
Not only is she cruel, she is always looking for ways to fk another man being married. That's just a pathetic hoe at this point.
they were a breath of fresh from my usual consumption. Then they got stale.
But, horror, action, political and revenge genres in Kdramas shine a lot now a days.
Romance Kdramas are absolute trash compared to other genres.
usually I FF a lot of these romance Kdramas, you know exactly how most of the storylines go anyway.
You think self-respect is only for women and not for men?
Would you also suggest a woman chase after a man who screwed her and married another woman? You know, for love?
Let's get that out of the way.
There are 3 scenarios that happen in life
Scenario 1 -> Married couple have sex regularly and wife says no, now and then. It is perfectly fine and zero issues. Husband should back off.
Scenario 2 -> Married couple who used to have sex regularly, now completely stopped. Wife says no constantly and consistently. husband should back off. Wife as per law in most countries, including all western countries, is committing cruelty against her husband and is a perfectly valid reason for divorce. The husband now has a choice to stay put or get a divorce.
Even this scenario is acceptable. Love ran it's course and the wife does not want anything to with the man. Next step is divorce or an understanding.
Scenario 3 -> Man and a woman get married and the wife on the day of the marriage gives a middle finger to the husband and says there won't be sex, ever.
In this scenario, the wife is a horrible person who just destroyed the poor sods life. The poor sod should still keep his hands to himself but the fact remains that the wife in this specific scenario is a huge B and deserves to be destroyed.
Coming to the discussion, I was NOT talking about scenario 1 or scenario 2.
I was talking about only scenario 3.
You seem to offended by the word 'kunt'.
You should be.
question is, there are 10 dramas this year where the FL calls the ML 'AssHole' and 'b@stard'.
I don't see anyone offended by that?
Care to explain why?
The dramas in question are 'my dearest nemesis' and 'Potato Lab'.
FL's in both dramas call the ML an 'AssHole' and 'b@stard' in ep1.
care to comment?
You talk about a fked up FL in a drama, then it's about all women?!!
First, Go back to school.
It's shocking to see people supporting this filthy FL by equating this filth to all women,
No dear, most women are nice and are not like the filthy FL.
regarding filthy language, these dramas have FL abusing ML with words like 'Ass Hole', 'b@stard', 'Son of a Bitch' etc etc..in almost every drama.
So, it's par for course.
If you have problems with language, you need to start with these dramas and ensure the language is appropriate before preaching to viewers.