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Imagine if men started giving similar excuses for using women as sex toys and separating moms from their kids.

If he is a bad guy, don't open your legs to him. It's that simple. It's a judgement call. The ML did not rape her.

There really is no justification ever to hide children from their parents, either father or mother.
If there are problems, modern society has codified ways that protect the best interests of children.

the FL is a filthy piece of shit, all around.

the FL is basically using the ML as a dildo and a sperm bank, does not let the ML know he has kids, deny the kids the presence of father etc etc..

Are we somehow supposed to relate and like the FL who is this disgusting?

well, Kdramas and Cdramas has a lot of implied incest.

What are you talking about?
Watched 'No Gain, No Love'? Why not describe the sex life of FL and ML in that one?
How about 'Welcome to Samdal'..I can give a list.

I know how the mechanics work.

The point was, the ML saved himself for the FL without ever moving on or even ever considering other women,
while the FL's in Kdramas would have been enjoying themselves with other men and end up with the pure virgin ML.

bottom line - the ML would be losing his pure virginity to the FL, while the FL would have shagged other men and settles down with the pure virgin ML.
THAT is the plot in most Kdrama romances now a days.

Rooting for both FL and ML.
their characterizations are nice.
the FL is uncertain, kind and yet shows bits of courage.
ML has a lot of growing up to do.

Again, a simple question.

IF peeping through paper walls in common kdrama trope, how many Kdramas has shown ML's peeping through these holes to watch naked girls?

And if this drama were to show ML peeping on naked girls, what would be the reaction of viewers and the wider conversation that would result in?

Anyone questioning the shit FL's are shown doing in Kdramas is misogyny.

Got it. After using the word basically you are trying to browbeat anyone from having any discussion on this.

The point is simple, would we as viewers be as understanding if ML was peeping on young girls being nude in their personal space?

Either you answer the question or you don't.
Rest everything is pure BS.

wow, I am not assuming her sexuality.
Unless you are reading posts made by others, it's absolutely clear I was using that as point to show FL likes men and was watching the man and NOT the woman.

All this talk of misogyny is getting old and stale, especially in Kdrama romance land.
The question is apt.
ML's in Kdramas would never be shown doing things FL's do in almost every drama.

If you think questioning FL committing pervert acts against men is misogyny, may feminism help you.

Imagine a man peeping at woman, naked lying on bed with a smile on his face & her husband was sleeping next to her.

Is the man peeping at the woman? Or both the man and the woman?
technically both but we all know he is only interested in the woman and her naked body.

Same way, the FL is interested in wanking off to the naked body of the man, she is not interested in women.
Unless I am missing something and the FL is Bi-sexual.

the FL was not peeping at the woman.
She was looking at the man. Anything thinking FL was peeping to watch the woman are really from different universe.

And yes, you are partially right that the FL violated the woman's dignity as well but the whole was pointing at a specific scenario, a horny FL looking at the body of a man with a smile on her face.

I am shocked at making light of hypothetical scenario of a ML peeping at naked body of woman with a smile on his face.
really!
There is not a single Kdrama romance in last 3 years where the ML has put his pinky wrong. Forget peeping at naked woman and waking off, these ML's pretty much don't make eye contact with any woman and keep themselves very very pure for the FL.

The smile on her face says she was,
The only reason perverts watch someone naked is to wank off. THAT is the single reason why anyone would watch someone else naked through a hole.

Sorry but where is the argument?

I am just juxtaposing a scene with ML in picture and asking what the response from audience would be?
Would the audience accept ML doing similar act the FL is shown doing? Or not?

It's a simple question with a simple answer or a simple explanation.

From my POV, the drama makes it look like FL doing these perverts sexual acts against men is perfectly fine.
So, the opposite where a ML is watching naked girls through a peep hole with a smile on his face - Would that be ok and acceptable?

Or do people here really think the same act is ok when women do it but not ok when men do it?

We get the FL peeping at naked men,
wonder how the narrative amongst viewers would be if ML was shown peeping at naked women and is shown wanking off..

ML's in Kdramas loving FL for decades and saving their pure virginity while the FL is shagging around - "What a green ML, we love him"

FL searches for ML because both love each other - "We don't want FL to ever chase ML, it's demeaning to feminism".

Clearly something seems messed up.

ML's in Kdrama romances don't have their own aspirations, lives or character arks.
They only exist for the FL. They live breathe to make the FL happy and that's about it.

See the description for the FL in this drama
and
compare it to the description for the ML...

FL want's to be a poet & the ML is pouring all his love into the FL.
WTF is this shit...in each and every Kdrama romance, same simpy wimpy dogshit ML.

This show is just a variation of the standard trope.

What is she even doing with the 2ML?
And compare that with how ML interacts with 2FL.

She practically has 2ML who she knows wants to bang her inside her behind.

regarding her history, just read the synopsis of the drama.
First love Vs Only love.

It's pretty much self explanatory at this point.
Oh yeah, the very first interaction FL has with 2ML...she asks his if she fked him before...casually.
Ever seen any ML in any Kdrama ask any woman that?

Samdal had not one but 2 men, ML and 2ML who saved their purity and virginity for the FL for decades,
all the while the FL was happily fking half a dozen men & these 2 men knew it but they still saved their purity and virginity for the FL.

kewlllll....such pure green green men.

When every Kdrama has a FL fking men & the ML is a pure virgin simp waiting decades for the FL..

What else do you expect me to comment on?

Anyhow, it's these perverted Kdramas that want their ML's to be pure virgins.
And people like you have no problems with these perverted kdrama makers but have problems with me pointing to these facts?

Are you one of them perverts who like their FL to fk around and the ML to be a pure virgin simp who only ever loved the FL?!!!

ewwwwww..

You are just providing analysis for the grotesque representation of relationship between the FL and ML in these dramas.

Imagine if cdramas always showed ML shagging multiple men, in every drama & the FL is a pure virgin who only ever loved the ML and waits for him...in every cdrama
And then people start giving reasons..

How do you think the people giving reasons for those kinds of dramas come across?