did you watch the drama?You seem to have forgotten quite a few important bits of scenes.FL stops the ML in middle…
Well, Princess Royal has FL who is a shameless cheater, douche bag and allaround shit show.
Anyhow, you seem to be set on ML pointing at her being a concubines daughter, while forgetting the lines she crossed with ML every time leading to that.
ML is extremely generous. With his position and power killing her would have been very very easy. It was his generosity that ensured she was able to pull bat shit crazy things on him every time. The way she treated ML in public, damn, in those times and with that kind of power ML has, she and her family would not have survived the hour after the insults. Him repeatedly saving her sorry ass and putting up with her insane shenanigans and dodgy interactions with other men...
Yeah...some one convince how the FL ever even cared for ML after what she did in the drama. It's not saying that matters, it's what you do that matters. the FL did absolutely nothing to show she cared for ML. On flip side, ML saved her numerous times and even spared her knowing why married him in first place.
If there are ML who are doublebags in dramas, I will watch those dramas and trash them as well. Unfortunately in this one, the FL is an absolute douchebag who did not deserve ML in any way or form. She is undeserving because she never once fought for her love towards him and was constantly abusive. She knew who he was and he did not know who she was - an important point you dont mention.
did you watch the drama?You seem to have forgotten quite a few important bits of scenes.FL stops the ML in middle…
He did not look down on her because she is a concubines daughter. In fact in his mind the woman he loved since he was a child is a concubines daughter.
It's a bit silly to argue that just because your husband/wife is a spy giving your information to your enemies, you should not look down on them. It just is extremely silly. Being a spy means a lot of things, that in ML's mind the FL does not give a crap about him, that she only married him for benefits and she would throw him under the bus for her and her family's benefit. And here we are discussing that a spy should not be looked down upon. In fact a spy should get much worse than being just looked down upon.
Considering everything the FL pulled on the ML, he was extremely generous. In fact it would have been very simple for him to just get rid of her quietly, which he was extremely capable of. Only in Cdramas do you see a ML who is this generous and FL is who is this shitty and still crap on the ML.
And let's talk about who loved whom more. the FL barely liked the ML, let alone love him. She never confesses or risks being vulnerable to rejection even once in the drama. It's always the Ml who risks himself and confesses, maintains absolute boundaries with other women, while the FL would waltz into a whoreHouse with another man or sleep in the same room with another man.
It's not like the FL did not have endearing qualities but the usual Cdramas BS of these writers inserting stupid illogical things to make Fl look cool and independent that makes her look like a douche bag
I watch them because they are extremely funny in a dumb way and posting here about this trash is added bonus.
Imagine a whole industry repeating the same shit in their romance genre where the FL has fked other men and the ML is a virgin who only ever loved the FL.
It's just too funny to pass up watching this cringe shit and trashing this cringe shit is just the desert.
I'm convinced this is your "hating on" Account because wtf
This account has been there for years and has trashed and loved numrous dramas for years. Why not go through my history before making an donkey of yourself.
if it's not a conservative drama why they make only fl that so open sexually and show her exs and she even talking…
I have been seeing Kdramas since 2019 or so and I never seen a ML in any Kdrama like the current FL. If you did, do share the drama name with me.
While I agree with all your points generally, they are NOT true when it comes Kdramas and Cdramas.
We are NOT talking about MEN in Kdramas or WOMEN in kdramas. We are limiting our analysis to the ML and FL in kdramas. Why not share a drama where the ML is a fk boy and the FL is portrayed as a pure virgin waiting on ML, let's say from last 5 years?
Statistics? Why not watch Kdramas and Cdramas and let me know how many ML are shown liberal on screen when it comes to their sex and love life..and compare that to how the FL is portrayed? In many Kdramas, the ML's don't ever even make eye contact with any women except FL. That is an extreme conservative man, when it comes to the love and sex aspect. Why even argue when the proof is staring us in the face in how the ML and FL are portrayed in these dramas.
There is NOT a single Kdrama where the ML is like the FL of this drama and the FL is like the ML of this drama in last 5 years of me watching Kdramas. PROVE ME WRONG.
Oh, I agree men can be shy and don't talk about sex life etc. But every man gets attracted to women, especially beautiful ones and when will fk any women if opportunity arises and he is single.
Again, you are confusing real life with what's happening in Kdramas. These Kdramas can show the ML as shy and reserved & can still show him being attracted to sexy women and even show the viewers him fking multiple women. It's very easy to show in dramas a man who is shy and reserved and yet being attracted to sexy women and even having lot of sex. He just does not need to shout about in dramas, just can be shown having lot of sex with lot women in quiet of his home, very discreetly - you know like how most people on this earth go about their sex life.
I am really surprised that I have to explain someone as smart as you that a drama can portray a man as reserved and still show his feelings and sex life. I mean, even you or me can write that and direct it easily into a Kdrama.
Every Kdrama shows FL's feelings, attraction to multiple men, dating multiple men and shagging men. NO drama shows ML's attraction to multiple women, dating multiple women and shagging other women than the FL.
if it's not a conservative drama why they make only fl that so open sexually and show her exs and she even talking…
The double standards you brought up are valid point. And I agree, what is good for the man is good for the woman and vice versa.
So, keeping that in your mind, do explain why double standards in Kdrama should be accepted?
Why would Kdramas which go into minute details of FL's sex and love life not even show a glimpse of ML's sex and love life? Is it because the 12 episode drama with each episode being 60 mins can'e spare 10 mins of drama time to show ML mounting multiple women and enjoying fking them? Especially considering we see FL's past sex and love life for half the episode in every episode until now,,,
Why are most Kdrama ML's pure virgins who only ever loved the FL, while the FL would have genuinely loved multiple other men, dated other men, fked other men?
Why do most Kdramas show FL's being attracted to hot men, even showing their attraction to good looking men, while there is NOT a single drama where the ML is looking at a woman who is not the FL and thinking that woman is sexy?
There is not a single Kdrama where the Ml abused the FL to his friends or in his thoughts, the FL's in many dramas are shown to verbally as well as physically abuse the ML's in many Kdramas.
Most Kdramas have the ML as organized, good at cooking, no smoking or extreme drinking. They are always well groomed, like from a fairytale of a woman's fantasy. The FL's are mostly shown as disorganized, smokers, drunkards and very loud.
Yes dear, double standards exist in Kdrama in the extreme. If you reverse the genders of main leads in Kdramas, there would be riots in Korea.
Isn't the ML very conservative?I mean the boy is a gold standard for a conservative in every sense.the only ones…
No conservative man would ever look at any woman similar to the FL and even think of touching them with a barge pole. The only feeling a conservative man would have for women like the FL is one of extreme disgust.
did you watch the drama?You seem to have forgotten quite a few important bits of scenes.FL stops the ML in middle…
dear, the husband treats her like crap because he knows she is spying on him, which she was.
I really doubt there is anyone on this earth, man or woman, who would treat their spouse well if they knew they only married them to spy on them and destroy them.
This shit is exactly as we expected even before the drama is aired,
the ML has always been in love with FL, even the so called 'girlfriend' of ML is used to confirm this fact to viewers. The FL on the hand genuinely loved, cared and lived a full life with other man/men. The ML on the other hand has been pining since high school and has never loved any woman except the FL.
Yeah, normal regular people & especially pure virgin men should stay clear off ones like her with STD's, unless one is desperate and horny. Suspect being near her would give any one a dozen STD's.
if it's not a conservative drama why they make only fl that so open sexually and show her exs and she even talking…
Many female posters here have told me that any ML who is similar to this drama FL is a manWhore and they won't watch any dramas with manWhores in Kdramas.
It's very simple, if the FL shags around it's empowerment and if the ML shags around he is a manWhore.
That's why you never see a ML like the current drama FL in any Kdrama.
Sexual empowerment in kdrama is only for the FL's. the ML must remain a pure virgin to make the FL very happy. ML can't be soiled in body and mind and the purity can't be compromised.
we don't need no manWhores in kdramas is the theme of the decade.
if it's not a conservative drama why they make only fl that so open sexually and show her exs and she even talking…
Bad boy or alpha male is not the only conservative indicator, All Kdrama ML's are very very conservative. They are almost always pure virgin men who is waiting for their true love, i,e. the FL.
the FL's on the other hand are liberal women, having no issues with shagging many men, be open about sex and be attracted to multiple men.
It's disgusting how Kdramas show the FL's as liberal about sex and ML's are always conservative about sex.
It must be the top fantasy of liberal women all over the world to fk around with many men and wanting to end up with a pure virgin prince charming.
If you're conservative, this drama isn't for you. There are plenty of old conservative dramas you'd enjoy more.…
Isn't the ML very conservative? I mean the boy is a gold standard for a conservative in every sense.
the only ones shagging around in Kdramas are the FL's and her female friends. The ML remains a pure virgin conservative handsome prince to make the FL very very happy.
Can't understand the fascination of modern feminist women shagging around dozens of men a week wanting to end up with a pure virgin conservative man..
did you watch the drama?You seem to have forgotten quite a few important bits of scenes.FL stops the ML in middle…
Do you recognize is NOT equal to I love you dearly and want to marry you. It is no where near to that. She could have been anyone from his past.
the one willing to confess and get rejected is the one who is actually in love. ML is the only one willing to risk himself and confess. The FL never risks it, in fact her love for him is so strong that for half the drama she is searching for a new husband.
This is the woman who goes to brothels with other men but gets all jealous when another woman visits their home.
Sorry but the FL is crappily written. She is supposed to come across as strong independent modern woman but the messy writing shows her a cheating douchebag.
He is the one who is rude and says hurtful words since the beginning of the drama.He brings a woman home.Then…
did you watch the drama?
You seem to have forgotten quite a few important bits of scenes. FL stops the ML in middle of street before marriage and says quite a few rude things to her. FL only married ML because her sister eloped and her family would get hurt FL is a spy Now, combine all these 3 facts and the ML knowing all these 3 facts...exactly what do you think his response should be? 'Dear wife, I love you sooo much even though you are here to spy on me, treat me like crap and only married to save your own family...'
well, the ML eventually says that, like all cdrama ML's, he eventually becomes a wimpy simp, little bit cucked and happy about it.
Anyhow, you seem to be set on ML pointing at her being a concubines daughter, while forgetting the lines she crossed with ML every time leading to that.
ML is extremely generous. With his position and power killing her would have been very very easy. It was his generosity that ensured she was able to pull bat shit crazy things on him every time.
The way she treated ML in public, damn, in those times and with that kind of power ML has, she and her family would not have survived the hour after the insults.
Him repeatedly saving her sorry ass and putting up with her insane shenanigans and dodgy interactions with other men...
Yeah...some one convince how the FL ever even cared for ML after what she did in the drama.
It's not saying that matters, it's what you do that matters.
the FL did absolutely nothing to show she cared for ML. On flip side, ML saved her numerous times and even spared her knowing why married him in first place.
If there are ML who are doublebags in dramas, I will watch those dramas and trash them as well.
Unfortunately in this one, the FL is an absolute douchebag who did not deserve ML in any way or form.
She is undeserving because she never once fought for her love towards him and was constantly abusive. She knew who he was and he did not know who she was - an important point you dont mention.
In fact in his mind the woman he loved since he was a child is a concubines daughter.
It's a bit silly to argue that just because your husband/wife is a spy giving your information to your enemies, you should not look down on them. It just is extremely silly.
Being a spy means a lot of things, that in ML's mind the FL does not give a crap about him, that she only married him for benefits and she would throw him under the bus for her and her family's benefit.
And here we are discussing that a spy should not be looked down upon. In fact a spy should get much worse than being just looked down upon.
Considering everything the FL pulled on the ML, he was extremely generous. In fact it would have been very simple for him to just get rid of her quietly, which he was extremely capable of.
Only in Cdramas do you see a ML who is this generous and FL is who is this shitty and still crap on the ML.
And let's talk about who loved whom more.
the FL barely liked the ML, let alone love him. She never confesses or risks being vulnerable to rejection even once in the drama.
It's always the Ml who risks himself and confesses, maintains absolute boundaries with other women, while the FL would waltz into a whoreHouse with another man or sleep in the same room with another man.
It's not like the FL did not have endearing qualities but the usual Cdramas BS of these writers inserting stupid illogical things to make Fl look cool and independent that makes her look like a douche bag
Imagine a whole industry repeating the same shit in their romance genre where the FL has fked other men and the ML is a virgin who only ever loved the FL.
It's just too funny to pass up watching this cringe shit and trashing this cringe shit is just the desert.
Why not go through my history before making an donkey of yourself.
If you did, do share the drama name with me.
While I agree with all your points generally, they are NOT true when it comes Kdramas and Cdramas.
We are NOT talking about MEN in Kdramas or WOMEN in kdramas. We are limiting our analysis to the ML and FL in kdramas.
Why not share a drama where the ML is a fk boy and the FL is portrayed as a pure virgin waiting on ML, let's say from last 5 years?
Statistics? Why not watch Kdramas and Cdramas and let me know how many ML are shown liberal on screen when it comes to their sex and love life..and compare that to how the FL is portrayed?
In many Kdramas, the ML's don't ever even make eye contact with any women except FL. That is an extreme conservative man, when it comes to the love and sex aspect.
Why even argue when the proof is staring us in the face in how the ML and FL are portrayed in these dramas.
There is NOT a single Kdrama where the ML is like the FL of this drama and the FL is like the ML of this drama in last 5 years of me watching Kdramas. PROVE ME WRONG.
Oh, I agree men can be shy and don't talk about sex life etc.
But every man gets attracted to women, especially beautiful ones and when will fk any women if opportunity arises and he is single.
Again, you are confusing real life with what's happening in Kdramas.
These Kdramas can show the ML as shy and reserved & can still show him being attracted to sexy women and even show the viewers him fking multiple women.
It's very easy to show in dramas a man who is shy and reserved and yet being attracted to sexy women and even having lot of sex. He just does not need to shout about in dramas, just can be shown having lot of sex with lot women in quiet of his home, very discreetly - you know like how most people on this earth go about their sex life.
I am really surprised that I have to explain someone as smart as you that a drama can portray a man as reserved and still show his feelings and sex life. I mean, even you or me can write that and direct it easily into a Kdrama.
Every Kdrama shows FL's feelings, attraction to multiple men, dating multiple men and shagging men.
NO drama shows ML's attraction to multiple women, dating multiple women and shagging other women than the FL.
THAT is what you call a double standard.
And I agree, what is good for the man is good for the woman and vice versa.
So, keeping that in your mind, do explain why double standards in Kdrama should be accepted?
Why would Kdramas which go into minute details of FL's sex and love life not even show a glimpse of ML's sex and love life?
Is it because the 12 episode drama with each episode being 60 mins can'e spare 10 mins of drama time to show ML mounting multiple women and enjoying fking them? Especially considering we see FL's past sex and love life for half the episode in every episode until now,,,
Why are most Kdrama ML's pure virgins who only ever loved the FL, while the FL would have genuinely loved multiple other men, dated other men, fked other men?
Why do most Kdramas show FL's being attracted to hot men, even showing their attraction to good looking men, while there is NOT a single drama where the ML is looking at a woman who is not the FL and thinking that woman is sexy?
There is not a single Kdrama where the Ml abused the FL to his friends or in his thoughts, the FL's in many dramas are shown to verbally as well as physically abuse the ML's in many Kdramas.
Most Kdramas have the ML as organized, good at cooking, no smoking or extreme drinking. They are always well groomed, like from a fairytale of a woman's fantasy. The FL's are mostly shown as disorganized, smokers, drunkards and very loud.
Yes dear, double standards exist in Kdrama in the extreme.
If you reverse the genders of main leads in Kdramas, there would be riots in Korea.
The only feeling a conservative man would have for women like the FL is one of extreme disgust.
I really doubt there is anyone on this earth, man or woman, who would treat their spouse well if they knew they only married them to spy on them and destroy them.
At least get the facts out in the open!
the ML has always been in love with FL, even the so called 'girlfriend' of ML is used to confirm this fact to viewers.
The FL on the hand genuinely loved, cared and lived a full life with other man/men.
The ML on the other hand has been pining since high school and has never loved any woman except the FL.
Same cringy shit in every kdrama.
Sorry but I don't do those kind of things with strangers babe
Suspect being near her would give any one a dozen STD's.
It's very simple, if the FL shags around it's empowerment
and if the ML shags around he is a manWhore.
That's why you never see a ML like the current drama FL in any Kdrama.
Sexual empowerment in kdrama is only for the FL's.
the ML must remain a pure virgin to make the FL very happy. ML can't be soiled in body and mind and the purity can't be compromised.
we don't need no manWhores in kdramas is the theme of the decade.
All Kdrama ML's are very very conservative. They are almost always pure virgin men who is waiting for their true love, i,e. the FL.
the FL's on the other hand are liberal women, having no issues with shagging many men, be open about sex and be attracted to multiple men.
It's disgusting how Kdramas show the FL's as liberal about sex and ML's are always conservative about sex.
It must be the top fantasy of liberal women all over the world to fk around with many men and wanting to end up with a pure virgin prince charming.
It's disgusting fantasy but also fascinating.
I mean the boy is a gold standard for a conservative in every sense.
the only ones shagging around in Kdramas are the FL's and her female friends.
The ML remains a pure virgin conservative handsome prince to make the FL very very happy.
Can't understand the fascination of modern feminist women shagging around dozens of men a week wanting to end up with a pure virgin conservative man..
I missed those parts in the drama.
She never confessed to him & was actively looking for alternate husbands for half the drama
the one willing to confess and get rejected is the one who is actually in love.
ML is the only one willing to risk himself and confess.
The FL never risks it, in fact her love for him is so strong that for half the drama she is searching for a new husband.
This is the woman who goes to brothels with other men but gets all jealous when another woman visits their home.
Sorry but the FL is crappily written. She is supposed to come across as strong independent modern woman but the messy writing shows her a cheating douchebag.
You seem to have forgotten quite a few important bits of scenes.
FL stops the ML in middle of street before marriage and says quite a few rude things to her.
FL only married ML because her sister eloped and her family would get hurt
FL is a spy
Now, combine all these 3 facts and the ML knowing all these 3 facts...exactly what do you think his response should be?
'Dear wife, I love you sooo much even though you are here to spy on me, treat me like crap and only married to save your own family...'
well, the ML eventually says that, like all cdrama ML's, he eventually becomes a wimpy simp, little bit cucked and happy about it.