u don't have the brain capacity to comprehend things unless they are shoved into your face. nothing about the…
Mother saying he fooled around is truth but ML himself confessing to his bestie that FL was the only one ever is what? Do we see any girl ML dated in the drama? No Do we even get their names? No LOL, if he was such a fooler around of girls, his mommy did not need to force him on blind date. Mother was trying to break them up
The ML with his own mouth confesses his purity and virginity to his best friend, who was shell shocked that a man in late 20's is still a virgin and says he should have loved more people.
FL liked multiple men in the drama. Are we playing dumb and dumber here? She liked 2ML start of drama, dated another guy, then ended up with ML - that's 3 guys. Is 3 not multiple?
u don't have the brain capacity to comprehend things unless they are shoved into your face. nothing about the…
how does it matter how many men FL dated and shagged? Even if it's one, they show the man on screen. The FL was in relationship with him and shagged him for years. The drama establishes these facts very clearly.
Now let me know which actions of ML show he had women before? Even after the ML confesses to his bestie in Ep 7 that FL was the only one ever for him, you still stick to "he had women before"...
the drama makes it amply clear FL dated and shagged other men. The drama makes it amply clear ML only ever loved FL, he is a pure virgin who waiting to sacrifice his virginity the experienced FL.
It's shocking that perverts who want their ML to be a pure virgin abuse others. but then, what can you say about perverts who want the FL to shag other men but want the ML to stay as pure virgin. otherwise, he becomes a Manwhore.
u don't have the brain capacity to comprehend things unless they are shoved into your face. nothing about the…
Her first crush - 2ML, her second crush - her boyfriend That's multiple crushes - logic 101
The drama must ML is not a virgin, it's not the other way around LOL. By default every human being is a virgin. At some point they lose their virginity.
In case of FL, she had a long time boyfriend who she shagged for years.
in case of ML, there is nothing shown in the drama where he has relationships or one night stands or short term relations - that's strike 1 on ML being a virgin. Our ML transcends into a pure virgin in ep 7 when he confessed to his bestie that FL is the only one ever for him. Even his bestie was embarrassed.
No one by default is without virginity. It's extreme dumbery to say 'where is he shown as the virgin'. he is a virgin because the show does not show he is NOT ONE. That's how dramas, movies, books, plays etc go. You need to show the characters journey to viewers.
It's like saying "where does the show the FL does not have STD's". By default no one has STD's. If the drama wanted a FL with STD's, then the drama would have told us FL has STD's.
No, you're wrong. This trope works, and that's why they keep using it. The contrast between the characters adds…
My journey into Kdramas and Cdramas is probably 4 - 5 years old.
I got tired of the western themed romance dramas for obvious reasons. Then my first 1-2 years into Kdramas and Cdramas was very a journey where everything was new and refreshing, different to the dramas I am usually associated with.
over the last 2-3 years though, Kdrama and Cdrama romances have gotten really bad, not because ML is a virgin or FL has dating history. It's because THAT's THE ONLY TROPE in these dramas now a days.
It's funny how we associate what men used to do as bad & then give FL exactly the same characteristics that these men used to do and pretend it's not bad. If either good or bad. Does not become good or bad based on gender of person doing it.
regarding journey of the drama, I am not holding my breath. Have seen too many of the same dramas in last few years to know where these characters are headed and what their background is. In fact as the drama progresses, like every other Kdrama, it will reinforce purity and virginity of the ML. Purity and Virginity of the ML in Kdramas has unfortunately become the most important central characteristic of the ML.
If these Kdramas were showing FL's as pure and virgin in each and every drama while the ML was always shown as someone with dating history, the writers, producers, the studios making them would have been destroyed by the outrage from the viewers.
Yeeeeees, I hated the last 15 minutes of the first episode, and I hated the FL's mother, but I hated even more…
The worst thing in any relationship, between parents-children, between wife-husband is apathy.
whether the children are kids or adults, they always are your children and they will always be your children no matter what.
Having said that, I agree some of the things shown in Kdramas as parent-child dynamic is not to my taste but I do like somethings where the concern is shown as parent getting agitated and doing something that I don't usually associate with.
Like I stated, it comes down to a culture I don't have an understanding of.
What are the 3 dramas? Samdalri, Serendipity and ?
What exactly "being in a relationship" means? It's just another fancy words used to normalize shagging without any legal/moral responsibility.
And if men are Manwhores for shagging women, then that wh0re logic applies for women like the FL's of these drama who are shagging men while ML's are pure virgins.
There is no twisting words, whats good for the goose is good for the gander.
The whole long winded explanation is pure BS. When a whole drama industry keeps making their ML's as pure virgin and showing their FL as shagging other men, then it's apparent there is something extremely messed up with the writers of these dramas.
Like I keep asking, name dramas in last few years where the ML has been showing dating otehr women, while the FL is shown as pure virgin waiting for ML?
The golden rule basically exposes hypocrites, some time very brutally.
Yeeeeees, I hated the last 15 minutes of the first episode, and I hated the FL's mother, but I hated even more…
It seems bit off when you are not from that culture and looking in from the outside.
oddly, I don't find some of the aspects of parent-children dynamic shown in Kdramas as bad. In fact I find some of them endearing. It shows that these parents care and have made lot of sacrifices and are willing to make more sacrifices for their children.
With the west in a spiral where individual joy is becoming more important, where many go DINK or the abnormal justification for abortions, it is bit nice to see culture that places children's care and success more important than personal joy etc etc.
I don't find all the over bearing parent-child dynamics in Kdramas endearing but I find many of these themes as endearing.
What are the 3 dramas? Samdalri, Serendipity and ?
Tried Thai, it is very reverse of Kdramas. Not to my taste, frankly could not get through an episode of the one thai drama I tried.
You seem think men who have had relationships are Manwhores but seem fine with FL's who are like the Manwhores you are talking about. Very surprised you think FL's in these dramas are wh0res..!!
Don't hate the messenger. I am only talking about what these Kdramas are showing.
No, you're wrong. This trope works, and that's why they keep using it. The contrast between the characters adds…
A business proposal - 30 year old Hadsome, rich, pure virgin CEO who never looked at any girl except FL & the FL who had loved another man for years, albeit not in a relationship with him. Proves my point again. the ML stays pure virgin even though he is studied in Anglo nation known for sexual liberalism, he keeps himself pure and virginiy. In fact ML in this drama is so pure that he is shown to have never looked at any woman in his 30+ years of life.
The Interest of Love - Well, it did not have anyone virginiy. both ML and FL have had relationships. In fact you could say it is one of the better mature kdramas in last few years.
Anyway, how do these 2 dramas disprove my point? in one the ML is a pure virgin handsome CEO and the other both ML and FL are more in tune with real life.
Why not give name of the drams in last few years where the FL is a pure virgin waiting on ML & the ML has been shagging other women and finally falls in love with Fl?
No, you're wrong. This trope works, and that's why they keep using it. The contrast between the characters adds…
It's not 'this trope works', it's the only trope in Kdramas.
name the last Kdrama where the ML had ex girlfriends and FL is a pure virgin? See, you can't recall.
there is no contrast, depth or tension. It's straight up FL who just came out of a relationships ends up with a hot pure virgin ML in each and every drama. We know even before episode 1 is released that the ML is a pure virgin and FL is experienced. So, what tension, depth and bla bla we are talking about when we know how ML and FL are going to be and what the journey is going to be?
If they start throwing in dramas where the ML was shagging other women and FL stayed pure virgin for the ML, then we can start having a discussion about what you said. Right now, these dramas seem like soft porn for certain sections of viewers where the FL is shown active love life ending up with a hot pure virgin man.
Let's be honest, even straight up porn has better story lines, characterization, depth and tension than Kdrama romances
It's Fictional for a reason dear 😂😂 No one tagged it a documentary of reality. Besides wtf do you know who…
new to Kdramas?
And the FL just broke off her engagement, what do you think being engaged in today's world means? the ML, well, right now we know nothing about his past romances but when episode 1 establishes FL as having history with other men and ML has no back story on his romances, it's pretty clear who is a virgin and who is not.
Don't worry, by the time the drama fnishes, we all will know how deeply pure and deeply virginiy this kdrama ML is as well. We have seen this pure virgin ML pattern hundreds of times in Kdramas already
What are the 3 dramas? Samdalri, Serendipity and ?
'Dare to love me' and 'dreaming of a Freaking Fairytale'
in fact in 'dreaming of a Freaking Fairytale', the drama spends one whole episode establishing purity and virginity of the ML. It was pretty hilarious watching that episode.
There are lot more released with year with ML shown as pure virgins. in fact, this trope is getting more and more used in Kdramas. Just the cringe factor of seeing this trope, have no idea how these men act as pure virgins on screen with a straight face.
u don't have the brain capacity to comprehend things unless they are shoved into your face. nothing about the…
The same point as to why FL's crushes and dating life was shown for each and every episode of the drama, to give character a background and let viewers know their journey - you know, basics of a drama.
The freaks are the female writers who keep writing ML's as pure virgins and the even bigger freaks are ones who keep ignoring everything shown in the drama even where ML himself confesses he is a pure virgin and only ever loved FL.. You all know ML is a pure virgin and you like ML's as pure virgins. the writers and freaks like u love your pure virgin ML's and when you can't defend this perversion, you just attack the person pointing the perversion to you.
imagine the gall of saying 'what's the point in showing ml's dating life', while salivating at seeing the FL's crushes and dating life all through the drama, as if ML is a dildo and his journey does not matter as long as he is pleasuring the FL.
it's just freaky creepy.
imagine watching shitshows like these where the ML's are always shown as pure virgins while FL shag around and then blaring 'what's the point in showing ml's dating life'. you lot remind me of men from one of the middle eastern countries where they marry multiple pure virgin girls.
u don't have the brain capacity to comprehend things unless they are shoved into your face. nothing about the…
I meant we see men in FL's life all through the drama, every episode for 8 episodes.
If ML indeed had any interaction with any woman, pretty sure we would see them at least for a minute, to establish that ML had some relationship with x, y, z women.
the fact that we don't see any other woman in ML's life, we don't even know name of any other woman, combine it with ML professing his eternal undying love for FL, it's enough to establish what he is.
in same vein, we know FL likes multiple men. She is like the usual Kdrama FL's, liked multiple men, dated multiple men etc. The Ml, like every Kdrama ML is a pure virgin simp for the FL...
but ML himself confessing to his bestie that FL was the only one ever is what?
Do we see any girl ML dated in the drama? No
Do we even get their names? No
LOL, if he was such a fooler around of girls, his mommy did not need to force him on blind date. Mother was trying to break them up
The ML with his own mouth confesses his purity and virginity to his best friend, who was shell shocked that a man in late 20's is still a virgin and says he should have loved more people.
FL liked multiple men in the drama.
Are we playing dumb and dumber here?
She liked 2ML start of drama, dated another guy, then ended up with ML - that's 3 guys.
Is 3 not multiple?
Even if it's one, they show the man on screen. The FL was in relationship with him and shagged him for years.
The drama establishes these facts very clearly.
Now let me know which actions of ML show he had women before?
Even after the ML confesses to his bestie in Ep 7 that FL was the only one ever for him, you still stick to "he had women before"...
the drama makes it amply clear FL dated and shagged other men.
The drama makes it amply clear ML only ever loved FL, he is a pure virgin who waiting to sacrifice his virginity the experienced FL.
It's shocking that perverts who want their ML to be a pure virgin abuse others.
but then, what can you say about perverts who want the FL to shag other men but want the ML to stay as pure virgin. otherwise, he becomes a Manwhore.
Anyway, enjoy your Sunday.
In fact I enjoy watching these stupid dramas.
They are fun to watch and ever more fun to trash on in forums.
I mean imagine a country making dramas where the ML is always a 30 year old handsome, rich, successful CEO pure virgin ...that's comedy gold.
her second crush - her boyfriend
That's multiple crushes - logic 101
The drama must ML is not a virgin, it's not the other way around LOL. By default every human being is a virgin. At some point they lose their virginity.
In case of FL, she had a long time boyfriend who she shagged for years.
in case of ML, there is nothing shown in the drama where he has relationships or one night stands or short term relations - that's strike 1 on ML being a virgin.
Our ML transcends into a pure virgin in ep 7 when he confessed to his bestie that FL is the only one ever for him. Even his bestie was embarrassed.
No one by default is without virginity.
It's extreme dumbery to say 'where is he shown as the virgin'.
he is a virgin because the show does not show he is NOT ONE.
That's how dramas, movies, books, plays etc go. You need to show the characters journey to viewers.
It's like saying "where does the show the FL does not have STD's". By default no one has STD's. If the drama wanted a FL with STD's, then the drama would have told us FL has STD's.
Why go through the stress of reading my comments and respond?
Why don't people put their own advise to good use.
Looks more like "free advise to others which they themselves won't follow"
I got tired of the western themed romance dramas for obvious reasons.
Then my first 1-2 years into Kdramas and Cdramas was very a journey where everything was new and refreshing, different to the dramas I am usually associated with.
over the last 2-3 years though, Kdrama and Cdrama romances have gotten really bad, not because ML is a virgin or FL has dating history.
It's because THAT's THE ONLY TROPE in these dramas now a days.
It's funny how we associate what men used to do as bad & then give FL exactly the same characteristics that these men used to do and pretend it's not bad.
If either good or bad. Does not become good or bad based on gender of person doing it.
regarding journey of the drama, I am not holding my breath. Have seen too many of the same dramas in last few years to know where these characters are headed and what their background is.
In fact as the drama progresses, like every other Kdrama, it will reinforce purity and virginity of the ML.
Purity and Virginity of the ML in Kdramas has unfortunately become the most important central characteristic of the ML.
If these Kdramas were showing FL's as pure and virgin in each and every drama while the ML was always shown as someone with dating history, the writers, producers, the studios making them would have been destroyed by the outrage from the viewers.
whether the children are kids or adults, they always are your children and they will always be your children no matter what.
Having said that, I agree some of the things shown in Kdramas as parent-child dynamic is not to my taste but I do like somethings where the concern is shown as parent getting agitated and doing something that I don't usually associate with.
Like I stated, it comes down to a culture I don't have an understanding of.
It's just another fancy words used to normalize shagging without any legal/moral responsibility.
And if men are Manwhores for shagging women, then that wh0re logic applies for women like the FL's of these drama who are shagging men while ML's are pure virgins.
There is no twisting words, whats good for the goose is good for the gander.
The whole long winded explanation is pure BS.
When a whole drama industry keeps making their ML's as pure virgin and showing their FL as shagging other men, then it's apparent there is something extremely messed up with the writers of these dramas.
Like I keep asking, name dramas in last few years where the ML has been showing dating otehr women, while the FL is shown as pure virgin waiting for ML?
The golden rule basically exposes hypocrites, some time very brutally.
oddly, I don't find some of the aspects of parent-children dynamic shown in Kdramas as bad. In fact I find some of them endearing. It shows that these parents care and have made lot of sacrifices and are willing to make more sacrifices for their children.
With the west in a spiral where individual joy is becoming more important, where many go DINK or the abnormal justification for abortions, it is bit nice to see culture that places children's care and success more important than personal joy etc etc.
I don't find all the over bearing parent-child dynamics in Kdramas endearing but I find many of these themes as endearing.
Not to my taste, frankly could not get through an episode of the one thai drama I tried.
You seem think men who have had relationships are Manwhores but seem fine with FL's who are like the Manwhores you are talking about. Very surprised you think FL's in these dramas are wh0res..!!
Don't hate the messenger.
I am only talking about what these Kdramas are showing.
Proves my point again. the ML stays pure virgin even though he is studied in Anglo nation known for sexual liberalism, he keeps himself pure and virginiy. In fact ML in this drama is so pure that he is shown to have never looked at any woman in his 30+ years of life.
The Interest of Love - Well, it did not have anyone virginiy. both ML and FL have had relationships. In fact you could say it is one of the better mature kdramas in last few years.
Anyway, how do these 2 dramas disprove my point? in one the ML is a pure virgin handsome CEO and the other both ML and FL are more in tune with real life.
Why not give name of the drams in last few years where the FL is a pure virgin waiting on ML & the ML has been shagging other women and finally falls in love with Fl?
name the last Kdrama where the ML had ex girlfriends and FL is a pure virgin?
See, you can't recall.
there is no contrast, depth or tension.
It's straight up FL who just came out of a relationships ends up with a hot pure virgin ML in each and every drama.
We know even before episode 1 is released that the ML is a pure virgin and FL is experienced.
So, what tension, depth and bla bla we are talking about when we know how ML and FL are going to be and what the journey is going to be?
If they start throwing in dramas where the ML was shagging other women and FL stayed pure virgin for the ML, then we can start having a discussion about what you said.
Right now, these dramas seem like soft porn for certain sections of viewers where the FL is shown active love life ending up with a hot pure virgin man.
Let's be honest, even straight up porn has better story lines, characterization, depth and tension than Kdrama romances
And the FL just broke off her engagement, what do you think being engaged in today's world means?
the ML, well, right now we know nothing about his past romances but when episode 1 establishes FL as having history with other men and ML has no back story on his romances, it's pretty clear who is a virgin and who is not.
Don't worry, by the time the drama fnishes, we all will know how deeply pure and deeply virginiy this kdrama ML is as well.
We have seen this pure virgin ML pattern hundreds of times in Kdramas already
in fact in 'dreaming of a Freaking Fairytale', the drama spends one whole episode establishing purity and virginity of the ML. It was pretty hilarious watching that episode.
There are lot more released with year with ML shown as pure virgins.
in fact, this trope is getting more and more used in Kdramas.
Just the cringe factor of seeing this trope, have no idea how these men act as pure virgins on screen with a straight face.
and what do we get in this one.
you got this right,
another pure virgin ML
and another experienced in love FL.
they just love their men as pure virgins and love their women well seasoned in that part of the world
The freaks are the female writers who keep writing ML's as pure virgins and the even bigger freaks are ones who keep ignoring everything shown in the drama even where ML himself confesses he is a pure virgin and only ever loved FL..
You all know ML is a pure virgin and you like ML's as pure virgins.
the writers and freaks like u love your pure virgin ML's and when you can't defend this perversion, you just attack the person pointing the perversion to you.
imagine the gall of saying 'what's the point in showing ml's dating life', while salivating at seeing the FL's crushes and dating life all through the drama, as if ML is a dildo and his journey does not matter as long as he is pleasuring the FL.
it's just freaky creepy.
imagine watching shitshows like these where the ML's are always shown as pure virgins while FL shag around and then blaring 'what's the point in showing ml's dating life'.
you lot remind me of men from one of the middle eastern countries where they marry multiple pure virgin girls.
If ML indeed had any interaction with any woman, pretty sure we would see them at least for a minute, to establish that ML had some relationship with x, y, z women.
the fact that we don't see any other woman in ML's life, we don't even know name of any other woman, combine it with ML professing his eternal undying love for FL, it's enough to establish what he is.
in same vein, we know FL likes multiple men. She is like the usual Kdrama FL's, liked multiple men, dated multiple men etc.
The Ml, like every Kdrama ML is a pure virgin simp for the FL...