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why the ai slop 👎👎👎

Yes I do see that, but I wish he were more honest with his feelings. Of course he probably didn't know how to react and what to do, so he chose the easier option out. But I wrote this more in the pov of Gushan. Because it feels like that. :)

yep... definitely huge blood loss and it can literally be life threatening 😭😭

Well it sure does feel like they don't know anything about the harms of AI. I don't think not having enough money is a valid excuse to use AI. To me it is only okay if it actually makes something better in life; like medical reasons, but this is not that. It makes people lazier and not think for themselves. And the fact that artists IP is being stolen constantly to feed the AI, and they are not compensated for the work. It's very ironic of these people to call AI "a tool to avoid plagiarism" like no it is not... because it literally is mostly just stolen stuff??? It's just a useless thing that steals water, electricity, other people's work, and makes the world more polluted (and also can be used for many malicious purposes).

I really loved this and I can't get over it 😭😭😭 I love PondPhuwin so much and they were definitely the perfect pair for this series!! Made me giggle so hard 💕🫶

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yeah it's giving toxic parasocial fandom (these people are always in the comments from what I've seen) 😭 and 100% it could have been done without AI, so the budget excuse is just so lame. I don't know why this series is so important to them, they just had to keep banging my head to excuse the use of AI??? but pretty sure these people are pro AI anyway so it's no use, they are already lost 😭😭😭

yep... these people will defend this project no matter what, but also keep defending ai for no reason... the thing is: I don't think it will cost you 10,000$ to shoot a couple 5 second clips, or replace it with stock footage (if it's not AI)/re-use already shot scenes. one of the AI generated clips were like three soldiers just standing... don't u think u could've filmed that in no time? the defensiveness is crazy, it's also JUST A SERIES, and I can have my opinion?? I don't care if it has only a little AI, it is too much atleast for me who already works in a creative space. if you really respected artists, YOU WOULD NOT RESORT TO AI even IF the budget is low.

Why did he remove the bone????? 😭😭😭

Already yearning for SeaKeen, I hope this will start airing soon! 💕

OST so good I might faint

gulp... I am not ready for it to end... 😰😰😰

2010 is kind of crazy to me 😭

Feel like y'all are glazing this series a bit too much lol. It's just a series? I can also feel strongly about the usage of AI, and you guys are bashing me unfairly for it. I even said I liked the series, but you guys make it seem it's the end of the world if someone doesn't share the same opinion as you about this one serie. I just gave my opinion and how they could've worked with the small budget without using the AI generated imagery. I do appreciate the work people put into this but I don't appreciate the usage of AI imagery. That's it. Hope you guys can leave this at this.

Actually only -2,5 would have been -2 (out of 10) but dropped it more because of this. Working for free doesn't sit right with me either, and again I never said it was okay? But stolen unpaid work is ok to you guys? AI generated imagery is just a thing I dislike very much, and what is it to you if it makes me upset and drop the rating? I'm pretty sure you can live with it and could've moved on without making it such a big deal since it is just a series? I hope you guys can leave me alone and not keep fighting over my opinion. I just felt like sharing it, since that's what I usually do on here and definetly did not expect such AI defenders. For me no matter the budget, generative AI imagery is not an option for me.

So you know I am entitled to have my opinion and while it does not match yours why drag it to such lengths? I am again going to say, I never said it was okay to exploit other people, but also sometimes people are not paid that much for just being an extra since they barely have screen time or lines. It does not mean that they are being exploited, what if they are just happy to help and be a part of the project? I am not saying it is okay to exploit people because it is not, but the wages are not that high either. I just think it's kinda funny that using AI to generate imagery is not exploiting the artists whose work were stolen? Because it is aswell just how people working for free is exploiting them. And I never said that people should work for free, I said to offer people meals and small pays since the work is not that big, and if it is then of course they should be compensated accordingly. I never said that exploitation was okay, don't put words into my mouth.

When did I say yes to exploitation? I didn't? I don't like generative AI, since it is literally stolen work of other people mind you WHO WERE NOT PAID FOR THEIR WORK. While it may create "new things" it is trained off of STOLEN INTELLECTUAL PROPETY and is literally bad for the environment. So kind of ironic to say it's "a strong tool to avoid plagarism" while it is literally just that. I never said to exploit other people, just work with the budget. I don't know why you guys are defending the use of AI when people did not use it before but now it is "necessary" to cut costs? Could have re-used things and try to work with the budget as best as you can. In my country it is normal to compensate extras with a meal if budget is cheap or just 20 bucks since I think a lot of these scenes could have been shot pretty quick.

Here it is perfectly normal to compensate an extra with a meal. Of course they would probably have to pay for your injuries if something happened, but I'm sure they are somewhat prepared for this. I don't think they would have to pay for you to travel to the set, you just need to be a local. Costumes and props are of course on the team, and by editing/filming they may be able to make it look fuller than it actually is. Using stolen ip is crazy.

I'm pretty sure extras for scenes are not that expensive, maybe a meal if the budget is cheap. How do u think they did it before all the ai? 😭😭😭 That's just a cheap excuse imo. I would've used maybe stock footage (of course now it's also filled with ai slop), re-used scenes and if you already had some animators and illustrators why not a little more, cut something else and re-use stuff. It is not that hard to not use generative AI...??? Personally I think all AI imagery is slop, and yeah it is very sad that nowadays it seems so "normalized" even in creative projects when all you do with AI is just type a prompt, that's not being creative.

Even if it's not used at all times, just having it is too much for me. We clearly do not have the same stance on AI, and it bothers me more than it does you. I do not want AI when actual people with talent and creativity could be paid, and as someone who is myself an artist hurts me more. And the thing is, yeah I guessed that the budget isn't probably huge judging by the zip tied trees but they couldn't use anything else? when it's mostly 5 second clips. Anything but AI, even a crappier low budget film is better. I feel quite offended when such beautiful artistry is sabotaged by low quality AI slop. I do not think it's right for you to use stolen propety just so you can cut costs. I will fight against the use of generative ai, it hurts us more than it will ever do us good. ---- I have personally not seen a chinese drama with this kind of slop before, and probably won't be if one appears. But I only watch queer series, so I don't think it will bother me much.