pureggold

i am not reading your rant because frankly speaking, you were rude to me for no reason and I have no desire to engage in a discussion with such people. there are other users who are interested in having a proper discussion so I will continue the conversation with them. if you're interested, you can read them. 👋

nope, im from HK and even here a lot of people dont know about MDL. there might be a few people who know about it but on a large scale, no

no it's because yall are a part of the fandom cult who refuse to take any opinion if it's not in favour of your favourite actor.

is that why you were so quick to personally attack me for sharing how mainlanders are reacting to the drama? yikes how weird.

and again, commerical success will never be equal to the netizens "loving" the drama.

no actually most people are not criticising the actors at all, infact they're all receiving praise. even the side characters. but you have to agree that actors alone cannot carry a drama and prevent it from receiving backlash. obviously there will be haters who will take this as a chance to add fuel to the fire but the criticism is mostly against the director and his poor choices. linghe and wcr are praised for their visuals and chemistry :)

"most IF NOT ALL are organic posts" what do you think this means? also the opinions are taken into account from all sosmed apps not just weibo. it's a fact that this drama isn't well received by the mainlanders, idk why yall are in denial

yes yes everyone who talks about the flaws of the dramas starring zhang linghe is a hater of him.

I will assume you're getting paid for acting like this otherwise there's no way a real human can achieve this level of parasocial-ism.

what the hell is wrong with you? i am new to this app and I haven't updated my list because i grew up watching these asian dramas. there are way too many dramas for me to remember and add them manually.

and I'm not spreading "rumours"? this is the general consensus of the chinese netizens whether you like it or not. and with the way you're so quick to accuse others, it makes me think you're paid to vehemently defend this drama against anyone sharing an opinion which isn't positive.

no, these comments are not just from weibo. users all over douyin, douban, billibilli, xhs share the same opinion. its not some coordinated anti agenda which you're assuming lmao. there are also billibilli commentary videos breaking down the issues in the drama.

why are some international fans on mdl lying about overdo being well received in mainland? commercial success does not mean c-netz are loving this. all the trending hashtags were literally just criticisms, and no, its not a paid smear campaign, most if not all are organic posts. the complaints range from the ai generated opening credits, the extreme close up shots with barely any set design, the overuse of filters and lighting, and directing that feels more like a vertical drama than an actual full length series, to the story itself being called messy and overly dramatic with plot points getting rushed through just for shock value. the dialogue is getting clowned on too, people are calling the lines stiff and unintentionally funny, stuff like characters just shouting things that dont even make sense in context. the director is getting dragged the most for it, #拒导演易军 (#rejectdirectoryijun) this hashtag is circulating on chinese social media.

“红果亦是果。S+级的预算，拍出了红果免费短剧的质感，这不仅仅是‘消费降级’，简直是工业标准的全面塌方” - red fruit is also fruit (a mockery of the original line "bitter fruit is also fruit"). an S+ budget produced the texture of a free hongguo short drama, this isnt just "downgrading consumption", its a total collapse of industrial standards

“她死而复生，我疯了。这种台词是人类能写出来的吗？笑的老子肚肚痛” - she came back to life, i went crazy. are humans actually writing these lines? its making me laugh until my stomach hurts

“为了反转而反转，逻辑完全崩坏。这哪里是长剧，分明是加了滤镜的竖屏爽剧合集” - twists for the sake of twists, with logic completely collapsed. this isnt a long drama, its clearly a collection of vertical "cool" dramas with a filter slapped on

"拒导演易军。如果是这种质量的剧最后双破万强爆，那长剧确实完了" - reject director yi jun. if a drama of this quality ends up being a massive hit with over 10,000 heat index on both platforms, then long form drama is truly dead

“制作方降本我没意见，但观感真的太差。用AI偷懒，还偷得理直气壮” - i dont mind the production team cutting costs, but the visual experience is truly terrible, using ai to be lazy and being brazen about it

also, despite all these wang churan and zhang linghe's face cards are heavily praised, its safe to say thats the only thing which is motivating the viewers to continue watching.

this is basically the gist of c-netz opinions on this drama. im posting this cause there are people who genuinely want to know how the drama is being received in the mainland, not asking for anyones permission to feel a certain way about it. im not a hater so i hope you dont start raging over imaginary enemies

these fans are so parasocial, they'll act like youve committed a crime for not liking something their favourite actor is in.

1. the problem is ai slop
2. its the poor editing and post production choices thats causing the uproar, not whatever you're assuming

not everyone making valid criticism against the drama is a hater. half these complaints are coming from people who actually want the show to do well, thats why they're pointing out what's dragging it down instead of just dropping it. if you're allowed to post your positive opinion about the drama and how much you enjoy it, others can also talk about their own viewing experience without getting branded as haters for it. theres a difference between someone trashing the show for fun and someone giving actual feedback on pacing, editing, or post production, lumping both together just shows yall arent actually reading the criticism, just reacting to the fact that its not praise. y'all are too deep in the cult

its not any diff tho? c-netz are crticising the poor directing and post production choices, they are even joking abt how the funds probably got embezzled cause they're so dissappointed

actually...female leads used to be the doormats in most older dramas, getting bullied and verbally abused by the mls, not to mention the ml changing gfs faster than he changed clothes, and it was lowkey romanticized back then. the entire "he fell harder" trope has only started getting into trend now, so i actually prefer the recent characterisation of mls bc atleast there's no double standard now that the fl has to be the only one who stays "pure" and devoted while the ml messes around w the entire town.

imbalance in dramas have always been a thing, except now its more for the female gaze while the older dramas were more male-gazey when toxic masculinity was a trend.

fun fact the scene with xiao liu and xixiao in the scooter wasn't in the script, it seems like they improvised that scene😂it was honestly so hilarious haha

a lot of things didn't make sense to me so i read the script for today's episodes and things became much clearer. what follows is basically what happens in the script, so if you haven't watched today's eps yet please don't read further as it contains spoilers.

lu xixiao explicitly asked zhou wan to unbutton her clothes so she could pose for him as a nude model, which is very different from the drama where he beat around the bush. when she's almost done unbuttoning, xixiao presses her against the wall and strangles her while yapping about wanwan betraying him. wanwan then asks what she can do to repay him for what happened back then, to which he says he'll let her enter the 2nd phase of the project on the condition that she becomes his assistant and takes care of him everyday until he gets tired of her. wanwan agrees out of guilt, believing she owes him this.

due to the scenes being cut, it seems the lines were also changed during dubbing, which is why we have literally no context to understand what was happening on screen. the editing choices are frustrating me a lot, i hope this is a one time thing. i dont want to read the script after every ep

he was basically asking her to be a nude model, and zhou wan didn't get it at first. she thought he meant a normal modelling job but once she realised what he meant, she actually started unbuttoning her shirt. they didn't show that scene clearly though, only her face was visible and everything below was blurry, probably a censorship thing. when she's almost done unbuttoning he pushes her back, and according to the script he was supposed to strangle her but i guess it didn't make it through censorship either so it got edited out.

the whole point of the scene was him pushing her buttons to make her miserable, except he didn't expect her to actually go along with it. him stopping her is probably meant to show he still has some respect for her but that's a pretty hard sell after he literally asked her to pose nude in the first place lol

actually never ending summer is a mango tv exclusive in china but archives and the first jasmine are airing locally on iqiyi and tencent. those platforms have hundreds of millions more active users, so their raw view counts are going to be way higher. plus, you have to look at the cast. archives has zhang xincheng and ding yuxi, and the first jasmine has bai lu. these are top tier traffic stars with massive fanbases that guarantee instant millions of views.

LHF is a diff beast on its own lol. its airing on CCTV 8 (the most watched tv channel in china) and streaming simultaneously on both tencent and iqiyi. the star power is also on another level.

when you actually adjust for the smaller platform and the cast's current status, never ending summer is doing pretty well for what it is. and douban score isnt a reliable metric for success either. look at the ratings for poj, it's sitting at 6.4 despite it being a major hit domesticcally and internationally.

it opened at #1 on satellite tv ratings which is a solid start, and the chemistry between bao shangen and zhou keyu has been getting a lot of love online, with people going crazy over specific scenes. the fireworks kiss basically broke weibo for a day. however, it's also receiving quite harsh criticism online.

there's this meme around here which is basically "watching while complaining." the closest western equivalent would be "guilty pleasure," but that doesn't quite capture it because people are doing it loudly and publicly on weibo while dragging the show in the same breath. it's being described as trashy, cringe, and addictive all at once.

it's that classic situation where half the audience is watching purely to complain, mostly the novel fans who feel like the adaptation gutted everything meaningful from the source and just kept the names. heat wise it's sitting around mid tier nationally and has already dropped a few spots from its peak, so it's not exactly a hit, but for a youth romance on mango tv it's holding its own.

bao shangen has this tag of "ip crusher," meaning she destroys beloved source material just by being attached to it. the label is largely unfair though, because she has no control over how a script is written or how faithfully an adaptation treats its source. novel fans are upset about how drastically the story was changed in the drama, and some of that backlash is attaching itself to bao shangen even though she didn't make those creative decisions. actresses always end up receiving the shorter end of the stick everywhere, unfortunately.

but yeah number wise the drama is doing okay, not a hit, but not a flop either.

using sa as a plot device to make the female lead miserable and using misunderstandings as a plot device are two different things, please don't lump the two together.
also, the "emotional buildup" in the novel wasn't even that deep to begin with. it was zhou wan going along with whatever lxx wanted out of guilt, that's it. the actual buildup only started when she began opening up to him and that could have been written without her losing her job or getting sa'd. the author just needed a reason for them to live together and have intimate moments, so zhou wan had to be made completely jobless and dependent on a'xiao for that to happen. it was a convenience device. removing it from the drama doesn't erase the buildup, it removes the most unnecessary and frankly the stupidest part of it.