100% spot on, I totally agree. I put this on hold at ep 8 after feeling so furious w/ the FL immaturity & how…
IKR! Sometimes I wonder what makes the writers think people react like this. Like have they interacted with humans before? Such poor writing!
You made the right choice by dropping this cause it will only infuriate you how quickly this drama devolves. FL is back at square 1 with her immaturity and has dragged the ML down there too. Totally a waste of time.
Dropped this at ep 13. I kept trying to give it a chance since it's got such good comments and I really wanted some non-angsty lightearted fun but this wasn't it for me. The leads lacked chemistry that is usually so important in a noona romance. Honestly most of the time I could see them as on screen siblings too.
The FL and ML characters are both very sweet and nice and that's the reason I kept trying to watch it. But there's just nothing interesting about either of their personalities. It's like I'm watching the first draft of a character board.
There's no real plot so there's no tension. Even the FL doesn't really worry about the age/sibling status much. Like...it's a drama where nothing happens but it's not presented as a slice of life so it all just came across as bland. I think I rewatched recaps from 3 different dramas whilst watching this cause I kept being bored.
Also Xiaoman's character is the reason I dropped this drama. I couldn't take watching her onscreen anymore. She's selfish, weird (not in a good way) and just completely lacks any common decency. First with just barging into someone's house, then what she does to the FL and just has so much thick skin to ask anyone for money. But the best thing is EVERYONE just laughs it off like "oh haha what a silly girl". Just wow. What was her character based on? A 5 year old who was never taught basic manners? Why do writers do this? Why do they include characters who are just super annoying/selfish/criminal but present them as comedic relief?
I don't recommend this. Go watch My Fated Boy instead. Now that's a great younger man-older woman drama with tons of chemistry, great acting and writing.
Episode 8 and I am ready to throw in the towel with this series. At this point, Hong Ye Sul as a character is…
Right? She never grew, never learnt. All she did from start to finish was run away constantly. Both guys are begging her to just communicate and she's like no I'm going to act like I'm 15 and not know what an adult conversation is. She was written horribly. I feel bad for the actress who had to read the script. Sometimes these actors must be thinking- Why do I have to act like this? It makes no sense.
I hope you did drop this and not continue til the end cause it just got worse and worse.
in the last few episodes, I felt like Pilyo and Jiyoung were cuter and had more chemistry than the main couple.…
Honestly first time I was so glad the actor playing the 2ML was the 2ML cause he deserved so much more than the crazy that was the character written for the main FL.
also what happened with the cousin? i thought they were implying she had a terminal illness. that's why she had…
SAME! Honestly in the end I began to understand that the writer had no clue what they were doing. Setting up character arcs and story development to only throw it all away in the last 15 mins. My only explanation for the cousin was - she was studying to be a doctor....so.....that's like ending your life....cause of all the studying? That's why she was "acting like it was the end". But honestly I'm reaching here. Because in the end nothing made sense anyway.
A joke of an ending, did the writer go through a break up whilst writing this and reflect it on their writing? These characters aren't in their early 20s or teens for them to have acted the way they did.
I mean the FL was selfish throughout the drama and even though I didn't particularly like her, I really am shocked but how she somehow became WORSE at the end. Both the male leads here are always open to trying to communicate with her, talk to her, and all she ever does from her student years to her now- is run away. Till the last 2 mins of the last episode where she still is RUNNING AWAY expecting the ML to chase after her, which for some reason he does!? I was like no man, let her gooooo. You got stabbed for this kinda woman??? You can do better!
To be clear it's not that I'm against this kind of not a 'bed of roses ending' either. This was an ending I accepted for Mary Stayed Out All Night (way back when) because it made sense. They were in their early 20s, still figuring things out and still they didn't fight like cats and dogs like the writer made the main leads do in this drama. I mean seriously, the man took a knife for you, saved you not once but twice, you were in so much pain when you saw him hurt in the future and then in the present and it was all a joke???? A better ending would have been for all of this entire drama to be a dream. This wasn't a "realistic" look at a 'happy ending' it was was a slap in the face of viewers who spent more than 12 hours watching this drama.
It's been a while since a drama has made me so angry for wasting my time ya'll. So this is a long rant with mild spoilers.
What a waste of cast, production and money flushed down the toilet for those unbelievable last 15 mins. I mean the FL was written like she was a preteen and so her character dragged the drama down already but man those last 2 eps were a disaster. Disney+ is seriously failing in the kdrama section. I fail to understand why a writer would set their own work on fire like this. It was completely uncharacteristic of both of leads after what they had been through. I can't take anything that happened in this drama in a positive light. Was the writer trying to be edgy or something? Cause they fell flat.
The FL was a selfish brat throughout the series and honestly has ZERO growth throughout. I hated the way she treated the 2ML and never once gave him any courtesy of closure despite her own mistake. Honestly for the first time I was glad Ji Suk was playing the 2ml (he often plays this role), because he totally deserved better than her. She treated him terribly because of her (understandable anxiety) but barely showed any remorse to what she did to him even later on. She was the same with the ML too. I didn't really warm up to the FL till around episode 10 and then bam - the writer made her even worse in ep 12.
The only positive that I found was the ML- his acting range is really good. He did it all, serious bossy type, comedy, romance. Good actor, poor writing so what can you do with that.
The plot had too many things going on at once, but if it had been executed a little better it would have been fine. I saw some people compare this to Business Proposal - NO WAY. It is millesssssssssss away from that fun fluffy romcom that was clear about their direction and writing. This is a jumbled mess that is stabbed by its own writer in the end.
Honestly so infuriating, I thought the comments were being harsh before but it's so much worse than you think it is. Do yourself a favour, skip this completely.
Wonderful first half with zero of the tropes usually seen in these types of dramas. The second half made it drop from a 9 to an 8.5 (still very high from me!) but doesn't mean that it's not worth watching. It's still a great drama throughout, it just got a little draggy with a little too much palace conflict I wasn't into.
No cutesy/clumsy females here! Pan'er and San are fighters from the start and fiercely smart ladies. Yin Zhang is young, makes a lot mistakes but unlike other characters like hers, she learns and grows from them to become more like her 'sisters'. The best thing about this drama was the script. It is so rare to see banter between the leads that's both romantic and witty at the same time, not just "a look (I'm looking at you The Heirs) and fall endlessly in love with no real reason".
The romance: Amazing - the leads have so much chemistry and Chen Xiao delivers everything with his eyes and then some. The main leads sizzle on screen together and their love is one of those great loves you dream of, whilst being set in a realistic world.
The sismance: Everything you need for female characters who push each other upwards and always have each others back. The key to their sismance- communication. They fight, but they talk it out always and make up. You know these three friends even if they fallout will always have each other's back. They really feel each other's pain in a way I feel only women can feel for other women.
The social commentary: How awfully women were treated in those days and were only seen as property to be discarded at will. Yinzhang's story showed this the most and that's why she ends up the most cynical (I don't blame her). With everything going on the world today- this drama highlights more than ever how important we keep fighting for our rights, esp as women. Rights that can/are being erased as this drama aired.
Overall - a great drama, don't skip this one. It's everything I have wanted in a strong female character driven drama.
cdramas are known for great kisses? Really? First time I read this. Maybe you mean compared to kdramas? Because…
You can't seem to accept the fact that different people have different tastes and what you like or think is great can't be forced on to others. There are tons of western shows that have stiff/fish kisses too why don't you google that?
cdramas are known for great kisses? Really? First time I read this. Maybe you mean compared to kdramas? Because…
Again- it's a matter of taste. I prefer the cuteness of skinship that is shown in Asian romcoms as opposed to the overbearing OTTP of western romcoms. So for me those are not good/lack chemistry. And people do comment on western shows as well. Like for Lucifer imo the main actress was so wooden and had zero charisma that even Tom Ellis couldn't save their kiss scenes. I thought the show could have removed her and it would have been better. A lot of it comes down to the actors and the chemistry they can bring on screen. I'm not sure why you even want to debate western vs asian???
Was ok, first few eps are cute if super tropey but it as per the usual it starts dragging in a nonsensical way. Like the plot really got unnecessarily convoluted. Acting wasn't great, chemistry between the leads would be built up well but the kiss scenes quickly cut off. In the second half there was barely any romantic scenes between the leads, it was more comedic.
The last 5 episodes were a real drain to watch, I was skipping so much just to reach the end. Like none of the character decisions were making sense and it just got so weird. A shame considering the first few eps were pretty funny.
It's an ok drama but not one I would go around recommending. It's both watchable and skipable. Depends what you are in the mood for.
You made the right choice by dropping this cause it will only infuriate you how quickly this drama devolves. FL is back at square 1 with her immaturity and has dragged the ML down there too. Totally a waste of time.
The FL and ML characters are both very sweet and nice and that's the reason I kept trying to watch it. But there's just nothing interesting about either of their personalities. It's like I'm watching the first draft of a character board.
There's no real plot so there's no tension. Even the FL doesn't really worry about the age/sibling status much. Like...it's a drama where nothing happens but it's not presented as a slice of life so it all just came across as bland. I think I rewatched recaps from 3 different dramas whilst watching this cause I kept being bored.
Also Xiaoman's character is the reason I dropped this drama. I couldn't take watching her onscreen anymore. She's selfish, weird (not in a good way) and just completely lacks any common decency. First with just barging into someone's house, then what she does to the FL and just has so much thick skin to ask anyone for money. But the best thing is EVERYONE just laughs it off like "oh haha what a silly girl". Just wow. What was her character based on? A 5 year old who was never taught basic manners? Why do writers do this? Why do they include characters who are just super annoying/selfish/criminal but present them as comedic relief?
I don't recommend this. Go watch My Fated Boy instead. Now that's a great younger man-older woman drama with tons of chemistry, great acting and writing.
I hope you did drop this and not continue til the end cause it just got worse and worse.
My only explanation for the cousin was - she was studying to be a doctor....so.....that's like ending your life....cause of all the studying? That's why she was "acting like it was the end". But honestly I'm reaching here. Because in the end nothing made sense anyway.
I mean the FL was selfish throughout the drama and even though I didn't particularly like her, I really am shocked but how she somehow became WORSE at the end. Both the male leads here are always open to trying to communicate with her, talk to her, and all she ever does from her student years to her now- is run away. Till the last 2 mins of the last episode where she still is RUNNING AWAY expecting the ML to chase after her, which for some reason he does!? I was like no man, let her gooooo. You got stabbed for this kinda woman??? You can do better!
To be clear it's not that I'm against this kind of not a 'bed of roses ending' either. This was an ending I accepted for Mary Stayed Out All Night (way back when) because it made sense. They were in their early 20s, still figuring things out and still they didn't fight like cats and dogs like the writer made the main leads do in this drama. I mean seriously, the man took a knife for you, saved you not once but twice, you were in so much pain when you saw him hurt in the future and then in the present and it was all a joke???? A better ending would have been for all of this entire drama to be a dream. This wasn't a "realistic" look at a 'happy ending' it was was a slap in the face of viewers who spent more than 12 hours watching this drama.
/rant
What a waste of cast, production and money flushed down the toilet for those unbelievable last 15 mins. I mean the FL was written like she was a preteen and so her character dragged the drama down already but man those last 2 eps were a disaster. Disney+ is seriously failing in the kdrama section. I fail to understand why a writer would set their own work on fire like this. It was completely uncharacteristic of both of leads after what they had been through. I can't take anything that happened in this drama in a positive light. Was the writer trying to be edgy or something? Cause they fell flat.
The FL was a selfish brat throughout the series and honestly has ZERO growth throughout. I hated the way she treated the 2ML and never once gave him any courtesy of closure despite her own mistake. Honestly for the first time I was glad Ji Suk was playing the 2ml (he often plays this role), because he totally deserved better than her. She treated him terribly because of her (understandable anxiety) but barely showed any remorse to what she did to him even later on. She was the same with the ML too. I didn't really warm up to the FL till around episode 10 and then bam - the writer made her even worse in ep 12.
The only positive that I found was the ML- his acting range is really good. He did it all, serious bossy type, comedy, romance. Good actor, poor writing so what can you do with that.
The plot had too many things going on at once, but if it had been executed a little better it would have been fine. I saw some people compare this to Business Proposal - NO WAY. It is millesssssssssss away from that fun fluffy romcom that was clear about their direction and writing. This is a jumbled mess that is stabbed by its own writer in the end.
Honestly so infuriating, I thought the comments were being harsh before but it's so much worse than you think it is. Do yourself a favour, skip this completely.
No cutesy/clumsy females here! Pan'er and San are fighters from the start and fiercely smart ladies. Yin Zhang is young, makes a lot mistakes but unlike other characters like hers, she learns and grows from them to become more like her 'sisters'. The best thing about this drama was the script. It is so rare to see banter between the leads that's both romantic and witty at the same time, not just "a look (I'm looking at you The Heirs) and fall endlessly in love with no real reason".
The romance: Amazing - the leads have so much chemistry and Chen Xiao delivers everything with his eyes and then some. The main leads sizzle on screen together and their love is one of those great loves you dream of, whilst being set in a realistic world.
The sismance: Everything you need for female characters who push each other upwards and always have each others back. The key to their sismance- communication. They fight, but they talk it out always and make up. You know these three friends even if they fallout will always have each other's back. They really feel each other's pain in a way I feel only women can feel for other women.
The social commentary: How awfully women were treated in those days and were only seen as property to be discarded at will. Yinzhang's story showed this the most and that's why she ends up the most cynical (I don't blame her). With everything going on the world today- this drama highlights more than ever how important we keep fighting for our rights, esp as women. Rights that can/are being erased as this drama aired.
Overall - a great drama, don't skip this one. It's everything I have wanted in a strong female character driven drama.
I'm done with this conversation now so bye.
And people do comment on western shows as well. Like for Lucifer imo the main actress was so wooden and had zero charisma that even Tom Ellis couldn't save their kiss scenes. I thought the show could have removed her and it would have been better.
A lot of it comes down to the actors and the chemistry they can bring on screen. I'm not sure why you even want to debate western vs asian???
The last 5 episodes were a real drain to watch, I was skipping so much just to reach the end. Like none of the character decisions were making sense and it just got so weird. A shame considering the first few eps were pretty funny.
It's an ok drama but not one I would go around recommending. It's both watchable and skipable. Depends what you are in the mood for.