We know it from episode 3 when young HHJ wakes up in the hospital after the car crash and her mother forces her to pretend to be mute.
HHJ's half brother (also Hong In Ah's half brother) was killed in the car crash that rendered HIA deaf. The same car crash that HHJ's mother forces her to pretend caused her mutism. Her half brother's death was part of the reason her mother was so adamant that HHJ had to pretend to be mute. Her mother thought Chairman Hong would be furious that his biological son died and his biological daughter was rendered mute, but his step daughter came away from the crash totally fine.
Very minor novel spoilers ahead.
In the novel, it's stated that HHJ's mother stopped celebrating HHJ's birthday after they joined the Hong household because HHJ's mother didn't want to draw attention to the fact that HHJ was someone else's child. But they did celebrate HIA's birthday and they held a first-year celebration for HHJ's brother. This suggests that Chairman Hong married HHJ's mother (his mistress, a lounge singer) because she was pregnant with his child. Meaning that the baby would be HHJ's half-brother through her mother and HIA's half-brother through HIA's father.
It's a problem if people are posting novel spoilers without hiding them under spoiler covers and including text…
I agree with that. There have been quite a few changes already in the first half of the drama. So those who hate spoilers can rest assured that there are some plot points that the novel readers can't spoil in advance.
Better to have the number of episodes match the story than for the writers to be forced to artificially stretch…
Oh yes, that's the trouble isn't it? With a good drama we want more episodes to enjoy, but no annoying filler, and also we want to know how it all goes, but we don't want it to be over. 😔
why only 12 episodes though . even those eww dramas get 16 episodes
Better to have the number of episodes match the story than for the writers to be forced to artificially stretch the story out across four extra episodes with lots of unnecessary content added in to fill the extra time. Especially if the filler would involve redundant loops, unnecessary misunderstandings, or subplots that focus on uninteresting side characters.
It's a problem if people are posting novel spoilers without hiding them under spoiler covers and including text…
Although I can empathize with your curiosity and I don't mean for this to be harsh... if you can't stop yourself from opening hidden spoilers and find yourself ignoring text warnings, I don't think it's the responsibility of the comment posters to take additional steps to protect you from yourself by moving their conversation to the discussion threads.
It's unfortunate that your viewing experience was negatively impacted, but the answer to prevent a similar problem from occurring in the future isn't for others to take even more steps to try to protect you from yourself. The answer is for you to learn from the experience and to not open hidden spoilers or to ignore text warnings in the future.
That said, if you were spoiled by any comments that were not hidden or that didn't have appropriate warnings, that is on the user that posted the spoiler and I do think that they should do better.
It's a problem if people are posting novel spoilers without hiding them under spoiler covers and including text…
I agree. People should be mindful of others and it isn't fun to see spoilers if you don't want to see them.
That's why MDL created the spoiler tag - so that users could be mindful of others and hide spoilers so that other users who don't want to see spoilers won't have to see them. And, IMO, out of consideration for viewers who specifically don't want to see novel spoilers, novel spoilers should not be shared in this comment section unless they are accompanied by an additional text warning that the hidden spoiler is a novel spoiler.
Posting spoilers without hiding them is definitely a problem. But posting spoilers and hiding them properly, with appropriate warnings, is not a problem. That's an expected part of the comment section experience, to the point where this site has built a special feature to accommodate it.
It's a problem if people are posting novel spoilers without hiding them under spoiler covers and including text…
Sorry to hear that Kalisia. But it sounds like that's not so much an issue with novel readers posting novel spoilers without hiding and warning about them properly, and more an issue with drama viewers posting drama spoilers without hiding them?
I think sometimes people get caught up in their excitement and forget to use the spoiler cover, and they just need a friendly reminder. I've asked a few people in this comment section to hide spoilers in the past and so far they've all been nice about updating their comments to hide them and hiding their subsequent comments with spoilers.
we’re tired of the novel people who are spoiling the entire thing for everyone, we do not care if you read the…
It's a problem if people are posting novel spoilers without hiding them under spoiler covers and including text warnings to say that the hidden spoiler is a novel spoiler.
But some viewers want to see these spoilers. If the spoilers are properly hidden and proper warnings are included, only people who want to see them should be reading them. If someone who doesn't want to see novel spoilers opens a hidden spoiler and ignores a text warning about novel spoilers, isn't that on them?
Wow, I wasn't expecting them to incorporate anything from that scene! 😳 🫣
Given how tame the drama is compared to the novel, I wouldn't be surprised if she was just embarrassed by the fact that he chose to take a shower in her hospital room bathroom (meaning he was undressed in very close proximity to her) when he could've gone home to shower. I assume at their house they have separate bathrooms and showers and she wouldn't normally be so physically close (with nowhere else to go) when he showered at home.
I truly, truly cannot picture this drama including him being "noisy" in the shower. But we'll see!
Edit: Maybe putting the blanket over her head is something she does after he comes out in a towel or something?
I get that partially he needed the influence of her family when her sister took off he went to her. I also get…
If the writers framed BSE as only having one goal (HHJ's happiness) and made it seem like BSE's only focus was achieving that goal, then everything you've mentioned would indeed be a complete plot hole.
But BSE has some other very heavy things pulling his energy and focus, and the drama has only given the drama viewers very small glimpses of those things so far. Marrying HHJ instead of HIA was a decision he made very quickly when HIA tried to blackmail BSE into calling off their wedding. He viewed it as being beneficial for HHJ, but it wasn't something he spent a long time planning in advance for her sake. And that decision (to marry HHJ instead of HIA) disrupted his plans and forced him to adjust them.
Once the marriage was taken care of, BSE's focus returned to his plans. He thought that HHJ would be able to make a happy life for herself and didn't think that she needed him. After getting married and entering his home, she had some level of protection from her family. And when her mother pressured her to get close to BSE, he shut that down and told her she didn't have to do whatever her mother told her to do. And her father was well looked after. She could pursue her career and wouldn't face any demands from her husband. In that context, I don't think BSE anticipated that HHJ would want a divorce. It just didn't occur to him. And he also didn't realize how much his coldness affected HHJ.
HHJ's half brother (also Hong In Ah's half brother) was killed in the car crash that rendered HIA deaf. The same car crash that HHJ's mother forces her to pretend caused her mutism. Her half brother's death was part of the reason her mother was so adamant that HHJ had to pretend to be mute. Her mother thought Chairman Hong would be furious that his biological son died and his biological daughter was rendered mute, but his step daughter came away from the crash totally fine.
Very minor novel spoilers ahead.
In the novel, it's stated that HHJ's mother stopped celebrating HHJ's birthday after they joined the Hong household because HHJ's mother didn't want to draw attention to the fact that HHJ was someone else's child. But they did celebrate HIA's birthday and they held a first-year celebration for HHJ's brother. This suggests that Chairman Hong married HHJ's mother (his mistress, a lounge singer) because she was pregnant with his child. Meaning that the baby would be HHJ's half-brother through her mother and HIA's half-brother through HIA's father.
It's unfortunate that your viewing experience was negatively impacted, but the answer to prevent a similar problem from occurring in the future isn't for others to take even more steps to try to protect you from yourself. The answer is for you to learn from the experience and to not open hidden spoilers or to ignore text warnings in the future.
That said, if you were spoiled by any comments that were not hidden or that didn't have appropriate warnings, that is on the user that posted the spoiler and I do think that they should do better.
That's why MDL created the spoiler tag - so that users could be mindful of others and hide spoilers so that other users who don't want to see spoilers won't have to see them. And, IMO, out of consideration for viewers who specifically don't want to see novel spoilers, novel spoilers should not be shared in this comment section unless they are accompanied by an additional text warning that the hidden spoiler is a novel spoiler.
Posting spoilers without hiding them is definitely a problem. But posting spoilers and hiding them properly, with appropriate warnings, is not a problem. That's an expected part of the comment section experience, to the point where this site has built a special feature to accommodate it.
You've asked people to hide spoilers and they haven't done it?? That's very poor form on their part!
I think sometimes people get caught up in their excitement and forget to use the spoiler cover, and they just need a friendly reminder. I've asked a few people in this comment section to hide spoilers in the past and so far they've all been nice about updating their comments to hide them and hiding their subsequent comments with spoilers.
"Maybe I should just accept the fact that BSE's EQ is way lower then I hoped it would be😅" LOL spot on.
But some viewers want to see these spoilers. If the spoilers are properly hidden and proper warnings are included, only people who want to see them should be reading them. If someone who doesn't want to see novel spoilers opens a hidden spoiler and ignores a text warning about novel spoilers, isn't that on them?
I truly, truly cannot picture this drama including him being "noisy" in the shower. But we'll see!
Edit: Maybe putting the blanket over her head is something she does after he comes out in a towel or something?
But BSE has some other very heavy things pulling his energy and focus, and the drama has only given the drama viewers very small glimpses of those things so far. Marrying HHJ instead of HIA was a decision he made very quickly when HIA tried to blackmail BSE into calling off their wedding. He viewed it as being beneficial for HHJ, but it wasn't something he spent a long time planning in advance for her sake. And that decision (to marry HHJ instead of HIA) disrupted his plans and forced him to adjust them.
Once the marriage was taken care of, BSE's focus returned to his plans. He thought that HHJ would be able to make a happy life for herself and didn't think that she needed him. After getting married and entering his home, she had some level of protection from her family. And when her mother pressured her to get close to BSE, he shut that down and told her she didn't have to do whatever her mother told her to do. And her father was well looked after. She could pursue her career and wouldn't face any demands from her husband. In that context, I don't think BSE anticipated that HHJ would want a divorce. It just didn't occur to him. And he also didn't realize how much his coldness affected HHJ.