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Replying to Johanna Linnea Karlsson Jul 22, 2024
I'm gonna read the novel now.I usually read the novel and THEN the drama comes out, this is one of those rare…
An added benefit of reading the novel (on top of getting to read all the great XY and XL scenes in their unadulterated, original glory) is that there are a few fanfics out there that are intended to help XL fans get closure. And they'll make a lot more sense if you read the novel first, since the drama changed so many things.
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Replying to Kaleidoscopic Jul 22, 2024
I made a post about it on the feeds and yeah that ending absolutely sucked. About the reincarnation, they showed…
Lol, thanks for your trust! ^^
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Replying to Kaleidoscopic Jul 22, 2024
I made a post about it on the feeds and yeah that ending absolutely sucked. About the reincarnation, they showed…
I went back to S1 Ep1 to check and I'm pretty sure it is.
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On Lost You Forever Season 2 Jul 22, 2024
Some fans seem to be under the impression that XL sacrificed one of his lives to save TSJ's life in the drama. But I don't think that was the case.

In the novel, TSJ was able to survive the wounds he sustained from TSH thanks to XY's pill, but he was unconscious from the moment he fell into the water after his battle with TSH and he disappeared for 7 years. CX only had his army search for TSJ for a few days. After that, XY was the one who told him to call off the search (with good reason) even though she personally continued to search for several more days. After that, no one searched for TSJ. The implication was that XL or a merperson under his command found TSJ and kept his body safe. Then (after six and a half years) XL used the blood that he obtained from XY to create a jewel and gave that jewel to a merman who used it to revive TSJ at the right time. Some fans even speculated that XL might have sacrificed one of his extra lives to turn the jewel into a life-saving jewel.

In the drama, it seems things were quite different.

I went back to watch the beginning of S2 Ep23 to count the number of heads that XL's true form had left in the last battle. In the drama, two out of the original nine heads disappeared when he sacrificed two lives to kill the Lovers Bugs and broke the bug connection between himself and XY. Another head had previously disappeared when he sacrificed one of his lives to save XY's life in S1. In the last battle, XL's true form still had six heads left. Which means he didn't sacrifice one of his lives to save TSJ's life. If he had done so, his true form would only have five heads left.

And since he used the jewel made from XY's blood on XY, he must not have used it to revive TSJ. And TSJ wasn't unconscious from the moment he fell into the water and as far as I can tell he wasn't missing for 7 whole years. It seems like TSJ was sucked into an undersea cave by a whirlpool while still conscious and had to escape from that cave himself, after taking XY's pill to help replenish his power. He managed to get out, but fell unconscious during or after his escape. XL found him and protected him from sea monsters, but only briefly. Just long enough for Lirong Chang to find TSJ's body. Which was possible because the search for TSJ never stopped.

It's all so watered down compared to what XL did to save TSJ in the novel and ensure that XY would have her "person to rely on"!

And, as one additional gripe from a novel reader about changes related to XL and TSJ, they changed the third figure that XL added to the ice crystal ball (to represent TSJ) so that the new figure is also a merman (like the originaal two figures that represent XY and XL) instead of a humanoid figure!
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Replying to Kaleidoscopic Jul 22, 2024
I made a post about it on the feeds and yeah that ending absolutely sucked. About the reincarnation, they showed…
You're welcome!
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Replying to Kaleidoscopic Jul 22, 2024
I made a post about it on the feeds and yeah that ending absolutely sucked. About the reincarnation, they showed…
I think Kaleidoscopic might be referring to the rabbit demon?

In S1 Ep1, WXL helped a rabbit demon (a former patient from her fertility clinic) give birth to a litter of cute little rabbit demons near the stone spirit's story telling circle.

In S2 Ep23, when the stone spirit tells the updated story of Dahuang, we see in the crowd that the same actress is playing a rabbit demon and she has a litter of young rabbit demon children with her (they have fluffy white hair accessories like the rabbit demon's ear's from S1 and they're eating carrots to emphasize what kind of demon they are).

So much time has passed, no one in the crowd listening to the stone spirit's story seems to even remember the events that took place during the drama when there was more than just one kingdom / one royal family (and the rabbit demon says those events took place a long, long time ago). So there is an open question. Is this the same rabbit demon from S1 with a new litter of children? One of her descendants? Or her reincarnation?
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Replying to IanuaCoeli Jul 22, 2024
XiangLiu performed on her, his final hypnotherapy session, where he sealed or removed her memories of him 🤔,…
You're welcome!
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Replying to IanuaCoeli Jul 22, 2024
XiangLiu performed on her, his final hypnotherapy session, where he sealed or removed her memories of him 🤔,…
Sure, if you want to remind yourself of how it played out in the novel.

And thank you for the "expert" title! ^^

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Chapter 48:

Xiang Liu smiled and appeared not to take offense to what Sir Bi said and asked, “I have one favor to ask of you.”

Sir Bi said, “If I can do it, I will.” A gentleman’s friendship may be light as water, but a gentleman’s promise was as heavy as gold.

“I want to sever the remaining connections between me and Xiao Yao. In a bit, no matter what is happening, please do not interfere and just watch.”

Sir Bi replied swiftly, “I will!”

Xiang Liu waved his hand and Xiao Yao’s precious gorilla beast mirror flew from her arms into his hand. He stared at it for a long time and didn’t make any move.

Sir Bi stood to the side and silently and patiently looked on.

Xiang Liu smiled and explained to Sir Bi, “This is a gorilla mirror that’s saved some ancient stuff from the past. Not even sure if Xiao Yao already deleted it.” He waved his hand and the mirror clouded before clearly showing Xiang Liu’s face.

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In a dingy room in Qing Shui Town, Xiang Liu was injured and couldn’t move. Xiao Yao snatched the opportunity to get revenge on Xiang Liu for being mean to her for so long. She used coal briquettes and drew seven eyes on Xiang Liu’s face, and together with his two eyes, it formed nine eyes so she could mock him for being a nine-headed demon.

At that time, Xiao Yao was holding the mirror with one hand so only her other hand was visible. Her voice was totally mocking as she said, “Take a good look, but don’t get mad otherwise you’ll interrupt the healing!”

Xiang Liu opened his eyes looking like he was going to kill her, but Xiao Yao wasn’t scared and instead rubbed the seven eyes while counting until she used her grubby charcoal hands to draw nine heads on Xiang Liu’s face. She cackled, “I still can’t imagine what nine heads look like, when are you going to show me your true form?”

Xiang Liu glared at Xiao Yao and silently mouthed, “I. Am. Going. To. Eat. You.”

Nine Lives Xiang Liu was renowned for being deadly, but with his face all blackened the scariness of his threat lessened immensely.

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Xiang Liu watched to this part and then started laughing. From the moment he was born he didn’t have parents, and had to start surviving from that moment forward. He had no childhood or playmates or fun, and after he was an adult his reputation was so bad that no one dared to joke around with him. Xiao Yao was the first person who dared to play tricks on him, but do so without any real ill will or harmful intention.

Xiang Liu stared at his blackened face in the mirror for quite some time in a daze. Then he waved his hand and called forth the next memory.

To remove the bug from Zhuan Xu, he struck a deal with Xiao Yao and took her to Five Gods Mountain where he successfully planted the bug in himself. Afterwards the guards chased them, so he took Xiao Yao deep into the ocean where they explored for a long time.

Xiang Liu stared at the mirror recording of the colorful seashells, various fishes, the underwater fields……Xiang Liu in all white walking while Xiao Yao was right next to him, curiously taking all the sights in.

Whether it was Xiao Yao being so amazed at being under the sea or there were too many things to take in, she secretly recorded the memory without Xiang Liu knowing. She likely did so from behind him so his profile was always in view. Only at the last scene when he turned around to look at her did the mirror record his face directly.

Xiao Yao quickly put the mirror away so the memory ended on that ephemeral image of Xiang Liu turning to look at her.

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Xiang Liu still clearly remembered the moment he discovered these saved memories in the gorilla mirror. He was shocked and amazed that Xiao Yao secretly recorded him, and that he wasn’t even aware of it. That proved he was completely relaxed at that time, and Xiao Yao could have had the chance to kill him.

Xiang Liu stared at the mirror for a long time before sighing, taking Xiao Yao to Five Gods Mountain felt like yesterday to him, but was really so long ago! His hand lifted to erase the memories but Sir Bi stopped him looking alarmed, “These are Xiao Yao’s most precious memories, you can’t!”
Xiang Liu silently looked at Sir Bi until he remembered the promise he just made and slowly released his hand.

Xiang Liu used his power to rewind the saved memory in the mirror like turning back time. It was like things were going back to the way they were from the very beginning, but there was no way to do so with feelings and memories!

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Chapter 51:

Xiao Yao suddenly remembered something and hurriedly searched herself before taking out the mystical Gorilla Mirror she always kept by her side. Inside the mirror were two memories she saved, and now they were the only things she had left of him.

One memory was in Qing Shui Town when he couldn’t move because he was injured. Wen Xiao Liu captured him and used the chance to get revenge on all the times he was mean to her. Xiao Liu used the coal in the warmer to draw 7 eyes on his face, plus his 2 eyes, that gave him 9 eyes so she could make fun of him as a nine-headed demon.

The other memory was from deep in the ocean. Wen Xiao Liu and Xiang Liu’s reached a deal and Xiang Liu took her to Five Gods Mountain to remove the voodoo bug from Zhuan Xu. After removing the bug, they were chased by the Five Gods Mountain soldiers so they went deeper into the ocean to escape. That was the first time Xiao Yao experienced the beauty of the ocean depths and when Xiang Liu wasn’t paying attention she secretly recorded Xiang Liu as he was carefree and with his guard down.

Xiao Yao took a deep breath and used her power to turn on the mirror. But after swiping repeatedly nothing appeared.

Xiao Yao grew frantic. “It can’t be! It can’t be!…..” She anxiously used her power to look into the mirror. But no matter how many times she looked there were no memories of Xiang Liu.

Even the only thing he left to her was gone!

Xiao Yao could not believe it and she angrily kept trying the mirror. “How could this be? How could this be?……”

Suddenly she remembered, when she was unconscious Xiang Liu discovered the secret of the mirror and ordered her to erase it. When she woke up he never mentioned it again and she thought he forgot, but it turned out that when she wasn’t aware he had completely erased it all!

Xiao Yao stroked the mirror and said through tears. “Xiang Liu, in your eyes, am I really that meaningless? So you won’t even leave me a small memory!”

“Nine Headed Demon, I hate you!” Xiao Yao violently threw the mirror as her tears tumbled down her cheeks.

In Qing Shui Town, she was Wen Xiao Liu, he was Xiang Liu. They were always at odds, but when he got injured he would hide in her room to heal. She didn’t know when she started telling him about her painful past that she had never told anyone before.

In Xuan Yuan Castle, he was the dissolute playboy Fang Feng Bei, he was gentle and considerate, fun loving yet diligently and patiently taught her ten plus years of archery.

When she was asleep under the ocean for thirty seven years, they spent every night together. That was probably when Xiang Liu was the most tender and caring towards her. She was of no use to him to exploit and they have no reason to be on opposite sides of each other. So during that time it was just one person taking the other person through life together in the ocean. One person sometimes saying a few words here and there, the other laying forever in silence.

At her wedding ceremony in Chi Sui, he came to steal the bride from the wedding and made her go with him as payment for the promise she made. He also asked for 37 years of army provisions from Jing. All he gave up was his alter ego identity, but her reputation was thoroughly destroyed.

After that he was the General to Gong Gong’s army and she was Zhuan Xu’s little sister, every time saw each other even their words were like swords slashing at one another.

The last time they saw each other, because of Feng Long’s death, on the very Hu Lu Lake where they once played together she now wanted to kill him and he used Jing’s death to rile her up to get revenge for Jing. That night he nearly took all of her blood just to make a pill for healing. She hated him for being so cold-blooded and vowed never to see him again!

If she knew that it would be the last time they would ever see each other in this life time, she would have said something else. No matter how cold and harsh he was to her, she would never ever have wanted to say what she said to him.

Xiao Yao’s entire face was awash with tears and she lifted her head to stare at the sky.

Xiang Liu, why? Why? Why do you treat me this way? Why won’t you even let me keep one memory of you…..so our hundreds of years together, it was always just a transaction to you?

Xiang Liu died so boldly and left nothing behind, no parting words and even his body dissolved into poison. No one was there to answer Xiao Yao’s plaintive question.
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Replying to IanuaCoeli Jul 22, 2024
XiangLiu performed on her, his final hypnotherapy session, where he sealed or removed her memories of him 🤔,…
Hmmm. I think XY was the last surviving person who really knew a side of XL that he didn't show to anyone else. But I don't think she was the only surviving person who knew that XL was more than the villain he was made out to be by some.

Lirong Chang knew him and knew that he was both XL and FFB.

Chenrong Yi (Feng Long's father) knew the sacrifice that he and the army had made for the former citizens of Chenrong. He deeply respected XL and felt guilty for it.

CX and the former King of Xiyan realized that XL was FFB and also respected his fight.

Ru Shou respected XL as an honourable adversary.

TSJ was grateful to XL for saving XY's life.

In the novel, Sir Bi was XL's long-time drinking buddy and knew several of the sacrifices that XL made for XY. Lie Yang and the Royal Mother also knew about some of the sacrifices.

In the drama, Ah Nian knows about several of the sacrifices that XL made for XY and the Royal Mother knows about some of them too.

Edit: And in the drama we got confirmation that Chubby did not die in the final battle. After 300 years together, of all the survivors he probably knew XL the best.
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Replying to IanuaCoeli Jul 22, 2024
XiangLiu performed on her, his final hypnotherapy session, where he sealed or removed her memories of him 🤔,…
If I kept a diary, I'm sure I wouldn't like that. If the erased content was particularly precious, I'd probably be devastated. Just as XY was devastated when she realized that XL had erased the memories of him that she had recorded.

But it's not meant to be something that XY likes or appreciates in the moment. It's meant (along with everything else XL did) to prevent XY from mourning his death too deeply or for too long. So she could have that life of worry-free happiness that XL wished for her.
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Replying to IanuaCoeli Jul 22, 2024
XiangLiu performed on her, his final hypnotherapy session, where he sealed or removed her memories of him 🤔,…
Adding to what Kokuto said, XL did not erase XY's memories from her own mind in the final episodes.

XL erased the memories of him that she had recorded in her mirror, so she would no longer be able to look at them after he died. The memories that XY had in her own mind (other than her memories of XL asking her his four questions in QS town) remained intact.
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Replying to AH Jul 22, 2024
Before she became the Royal Mother of Jade Mountain, she was sworn siblings with the Queen of Xiyan (CX's grandmother),…
You're welcome!
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Replying to Johanna Linnea Karlsson Jul 22, 2024
Can we talk the Queen Mother?I cannot remember her story, other than she lost someone.
Before she became the Royal Mother of Jade Mountain, she was sworn siblings with the Queen of Xiyan (CX's grandmother), before she became the Queen of Xiyan, and the second to last King of Chenrong, before he became the King of Chenrong. They had years of happiness and freedom together before each of them ended up in the coldest and loneliest positions in palaces ruling over their respective lands.

XY's mother lived with her for 60 years once, long before XY was born, and XY was also her disciple during the 70 years that she lived on Jade Mountain as a child before running away.
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Replying to AH Jul 22, 2024
In the novel, XL hid his well-wishes for XY (and the modified ice crystal ball) inside the big-bellied laughing…
You're welcome! I hope you find fic that matches what you're looking for. ^^
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Replying to AH Jul 22, 2024
In the novel, XL hid his well-wishes for XY (and the modified ice crystal ball) inside the big-bellied laughing…
There is a post with links here: https://mydramalist.com/discussions/lost-you-forever/124319-fan-fiction-thread-for-lost-you-forever?pid=3005063&page=1#p3005063

I'm pretty sure one of the Mandarin fics (which several other fans have used Google Translate to read in English) includes the idea of XL's soul surviving either in the big-bellied laughing doll or XY's mirror. Something along those lines. If you ask in the thread, I'm sure there will be someone who can point you to the right one.

When I mentioned "interpreted into" in my previous comment, I was thinking of liddi's interpretation of part of my fic. A link to the fic is included in the comment I linked above. Liddi's comment about her original interpretation (that XL's blood and power that were absorbed into the doll / ice crystal ball led to XY having a dream about XL) can be found here: https://mydramalist.com/discussions/lost-you-forever/124319-fan-fiction-thread-for-lost-you-forever?pid=3013911&page=5#p3013911. My thinking, when I wrote the fic, was a bit different: https://mydramalist.com/discussions/lost-you-forever/124319-fan-fiction-thread-for-lost-you-forever?pid=3008085&page=3#p3008085 / https://mydramalist.com/discussions/lost-you-forever/124319-fan-fiction-thread-for-lost-you-forever?pid=3013573&page=5#p3013573.
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Replying to Epic Event Jul 22, 2024
Can anyone tell me whether is it true that the doll Ah Nian gave Xiaoyao at the end for her wedding present contains…
In the novel, XL hid his well-wishes for XY (and the modified ice crystal ball) inside the big-bellied laughing doll and used his own blood to create a formation to seamlessly seal the ice crystal ball inside the big-bellied laughing doll. But there was no hard evidence to suggest that he left a fragment of his soul inside the doll.

However, the idea that XL left a fragment of his soul / part of himself inside the big-bellied laughing doll or similar objects has come up (or at least been interpreted into) certain fanfics.
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Replying to HeadInTheClouds Jul 22, 2024
You can't tell me what to do! I'll continue to NOT use the spoiler function on my essay-size posts. So there!!!!!…
At first I thought you must be joking and I was going to make a William Wallace reference. Then I wondered if perhaps you were actually very passionate about having everyone see your long comments and not feeling obligated to hide them and just used the emojis to soften the blow. So I figured it would be better to not assume sarcasm. Nice to know you really weren't being serious. ^^
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Replying to Aimikomi Jul 22, 2024
When Xiang Liu passes, what happens with Mao Qiu?
I'm afraid the novel does not answer that question.
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Replying to HeadInTheClouds Jul 22, 2024
You can't tell me what to do! I'll continue to NOT use the spoiler function on my essay-size posts. So there!!!!!…
As you like. The option is there if you ever change your mind.
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