For those who have read the novel, or just have better insight: how did Xiang Liu figure out that Xiaoyao is a…
XL knew that XY was a woman from the moment he first met her, because she was able to lure the Fei Fei out with her song.
In the novel, Fei Feis are called Jiu Jius. I'll post some excerpts from the novel below.
XL knowing that XY was a woman from the beginning was one of the reasons XL did not trust her when he questioned her at the military camp. He knows that she is using a false form and identity (at a time when he knows that spies have infiltrated his military camp), and she won't reveal her true form and true identity to him. She only admits that she is not *only* WXL. She tells him why she chose to be WXL and says that she wants to be WXL for the rest of her life.
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Chapter 2:
Xiao Liu wanted to catch a Jiu Jiu - a small animal resembling a civet cat. It had a long white tail and could take away a person’s sorrow. It was popular with the nobles and could be sold for a pretty penny. It didn’t have any attack power, but it was very, very clever. It was easy to frighten and quick to run away. So it was very hard to catch. But Xiao Liu had a way of dealing with it. Jiu Jius loved listening to a young woman sing. A Jiu Jiu would be attracted to the young woman’s sorrowful song and its body would inch closer to help the girl forget her sorrows. Xiao Liu found a suitable spot to set the trap.
He jumped into the water to wash off the poop first, then crawled on a rock and sat down. The rock was warmed by the sun and Xiao Liu sat there fixing his hair and singing. The song was carried by the wind. Xiao Liu sang a song about missing someone forever and never being able to forget.
Xiao Liu’s voice was melodic and the song was sorrowful. So the Jiu Jiu was lured out. Initially it was scared, so it hid in the dark. When it sensed no danger, it could not overcome its natural instinct to help people forget sorrow, so it stepped out and started chirping.
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Chapter 6:
Xiang Liu raised his head and stared at Xiao Liu, blood staining his lips, his eyes darkened, his breath slightly labored. Xiao Liu was initially sitting sprawled like a man but suddenly he slid down and unconsciously wanted to cover his chest, but he immediately stopped himself and continued to sit sprawled open.
Xiang Liu’s hand moved down from his neck, tracing his jawline, down his clavicle. Xiao Liu grabbed his hand and smiled. “I’m a man. Even if you like men, you should find someone better looking.”
“You’re a man?” Xiang Liu’s slightly blood stained lips curved upward. “If you’re a man, how did you lure the Jiu Jiu out?”
Xiao Liu blinked quizzically, “I don’t believe you can’t change your shape as well as your voice.”
“I trust a beast’s natural instinct.”
“If a beast’s natural instinct was so accurate, your Furball wouldn’t have been poisoned by me. There would be no such thing as traps, and hunters wouldn’t need to hunt.”
“What kind of transformation spell are you using? You have very weak powers but it’s completely seamless just like it’s your true form.”
Xiao Liu angrily said, “This is my true form!”
Xiang Liu stared at him, his eyes as dark as ink, and Xiao Liu’s heart started racing. He violently shook off Xiang Liu’s hand and then spread himself open like a dead pig headed to boiling water. “Touch me then, touch me. After you’re done then stop accusing me of being a woman!”
Xiang Liu glared at him. “I’m not interested in your false form.” He released Xiao Liu, turned and walked out of the pool to go lay on the pallet and continued healing himself.
No seriously. He is captain of destroying his own ship which is the first time I've seen this 😂🤣
Kokuto I'm stumbling upon this little exchange right after seeing nathsketch's post about White Flag and finding it quite funny that the descriptions and emotions today are pretty much exactly the same as the descriptions and emotions a month ago ^^
It’s a reverse harem drama. All four of the main male characters are her love interests, in different ways.
We are not that different in our interpretations of their roles. But a love interest can be a potential romantic partner of a character. Not just the character (or characters) they actually have a romantic relationship with or the person they end up with in the end. In this case, each "suitor" is one, to a degree. 😉
It’s a reverse harem drama. All four of the main male characters are her love interests, in different ways.
She promises to marry three of them. She gets engaged to two of them. In both cases one or two of the others interferes to prevent the wedding from being completed. One whose heart and life is connected to hers ultimately helps her marry one of the others… But saying that seemed too complicated and spoilery.
Has that one actually been deleted? I mean, there's still fanart in the photogallery.I was actually going to do…
"So they actually keep a separate image in the discussion thread"
Yes, exactly. So we could have a sort of shadow version of the photo gallery in a discussion thread if we wanted, and it wouldn't be affected even if the admins purged the photo gallery again.
As a safety measure against losing images because of the admins purging images from the photo section, we could create a new discussion thread just for images if people were up for it.
I shared an image (YaoJing fanart) in the YaoJing discussion thread that was linked back to the version of that image that was uploaded in the photos section by another user. The origianl image added to the photo section seems to have been a victim of the purge, but the linked version I posted in the YaoJing discussion thread wasn't affected.
The King of Haoling (aka the Emperor of Gao Xing / the Grand Emperor / the White Emperor) suspected that the person…
In the novel we don't see CX's conversation with the Grand Emperor (the one that makes him suspect that WXL might be XY) at all. CX just shows up at the clinic and tells XY that his master wants to meet her.
In episode 14, we see that CX tells the King of Haoling about the medical treatment that XY suggested for his arrow wound, her talent with poisons, and the fact that she planted a poisonous bug in him. Of course the King doesn't mention the manuals at that point - the very little he does say to CX is extremely vague and makes CX mistakenly think that WXL is the son of one of the princes who rebelled against the King of Haoling.
The part where the drama doesn't give us the necessary details is when it doesn't include XY and CX's conversation from chapter 22 (which occurs after she returns from her 37 years in the clam shell).
On the other hand, the novel also doesn't start by showing us CX and XY's childhood. As readers, we don't see Ah Heng giving the manuals to XY the way we do in the drama. The details of XY's childhood are scattered across conversations and flashbacks throughout the novel and we (the readers) have to piece them together. XY's conversation with CX is just one example. So in some ways the drama gives viewers more information than the novel, at least up front.
The King of Haoling (aka the Emperor of Gao Xing / the Grand Emperor / the White Emperor) suspected that the person…
Yes, it does seem like she lied (and XL called her out on it). But I'm not sure where she got the walnut and the bugs from. Perhaps she did meet an old lady who gave her the walnut and bugs, but lied about how she knew how to raise them (because she didn't want to tell XL about the manual).
Although the novel doesn't tell us what the manual said about the bugs, it does seem like XY only knew that they could be used to make another person feel her pain, how to raise them, and the spells that were needed to plant / transfer them. She really seems to have not been aware of what they were called and the other details about how they work.
You can always enjoy / torture yourself all over again with the novel while you wait. At least it's complete ^^
S1 ends part way through chapter 28.
Personally, I'd recommend reading it to the end. There are so many novel spoilers in all of the chat threads it might be best to just read them from the source first and that way you can participate fully in all the conversations without worrying about trying to avoid those spoilers. There will definitely be differences between the novel and S2, so there will still be an element of surprise. And with the spoilers you can prepare yourself for... certain things.
Yes lots things don’t understand…like how the haoling king suspect that is his daughter just listening cx…
The King of Haoling (aka the Emperor of Gao Xing / the Grand Emperor / the White Emperor) suspected that the person who planted the poisonous bug in CX (and then removed it) was XY because he knew that XY's mother had the Jiu Li Poison Voodoo Manual (which contained all of Jiu Li's spells about using poisons poisonous bugs) and the Sheng Nong Herb Manual in her possession before she died.
Jiu Li is the tribe / land where XY's biological father came from. XY's mother knew the Flame Emperor before he died because she and Qi Yo were poisoned (Qi Yo was poisoned first, and Ah Heng then gave herself the same poison) and went to the Flame Emperor to obtain the cure. Qi Yo was the Flame Emperor's one and only disciple. --- Chapter 22:
“Every time you mention voodoo you just glance over it, but how exactly did you learn to raise and plant a voodoo bug? And who taught you all the poison tricks you know?”
Xiao Yao asked “Can we talk secretly here?”
Zhaun Xu nodded and cast a protective spell barrier around them. Xiao Yao asked “So you know the Sheng Nong Herb Manual?”
“Of course, legend has it the Flame Emperor used his entire life to write that manual after testing every living herb in existence. The entire world wants that manual but after the Flame Emperor died it disappeared.”
“It was actually with my Mom. Do you remember when Grandmother and Grandfather were both ill and it was my Mom who was healing them.”
“Of course, but I always thought Auntie learned medicine from the court doctors.”
“I did as well and it was only later that I realized my Mom learned medicine from the Flame Emperor.”
“But….how could that be? Grandfather long wanted to exterminate the Sheng Nong Kingdom.”
“Who knows? Perhaps my Mom stole it.”
“Nonsense!” Many times Zhuan Xu’s respect for Xiao Yao’s mom greatly eclipsed her own.
“When Mom left me in Jade Mountain, around my neck was a jade container that held the Sheng Nong Herb Manual which taught my Mom all about medicines, but it also contained the Jiu Li Poison Voodoo Manual which contained all the spells about using poison and bugs. When the Royal Mother discovered it, she said both books were future catastrophes if people discovered it. She forced me to memorize both and then she destroyed it afterwards.” Xiao Yao remembered how she cried and sobbed and refused to talk with the Royal Mother afterwards for destroying what her mom left for her.
Xiao Yao said “Initially I tucked all that knowledge away in the back of my mind, but when I was captured by the Nine-tailed fox, I remembered the poison learnings. I knew I only had one chance to poison him so I was very careful, and even worried that the Voodoo King’s voodoo manual poisons were not deadly and discreet enough, and even used the Flame Emperor’s medical research to create more poisons.”
Xiao Yao waved her hands “My Mom left me those things likely wanting me to become a healer to ease the people’s suffering, but I think I’m going to become the poison master of my generation.”
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In the novel, Fei Feis are called Jiu Jius. I'll post some excerpts from the novel below.
XL knowing that XY was a woman from the beginning was one of the reasons XL did not trust her when he questioned her at the military camp. He knows that she is using a false form and identity (at a time when he knows that spies have infiltrated his military camp), and she won't reveal her true form and true identity to him. She only admits that she is not *only* WXL. She tells him why she chose to be WXL and says that she wants to be WXL for the rest of her life.
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Chapter 2:
Xiao Liu wanted to catch a Jiu Jiu - a small animal resembling a civet cat. It had a long white tail and could take away a person’s sorrow. It was popular with the nobles and could be sold for a pretty penny. It didn’t have any attack power, but it was very, very clever. It was easy to frighten and quick to run away. So it was very hard to catch. But Xiao Liu had a way of dealing with it. Jiu Jius loved listening to a young woman sing. A Jiu Jiu would be attracted to the young woman’s sorrowful song and its body would inch closer to help the girl forget her sorrows. Xiao Liu found a suitable spot to set the trap.
He jumped into the water to wash off the poop first, then crawled on a rock and sat down. The rock was warmed by the sun and Xiao Liu sat there fixing his hair and singing. The song was carried by the wind. Xiao Liu sang a song about missing someone forever and never being able to forget.
Xiao Liu’s voice was melodic and the song was sorrowful. So the Jiu Jiu was lured out. Initially it was scared, so it hid in the dark. When it sensed no danger, it could not overcome its natural instinct to help people forget sorrow, so it stepped out and started chirping.
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Chapter 6:
Xiang Liu raised his head and stared at Xiao Liu, blood staining his lips, his eyes darkened, his breath slightly labored. Xiao Liu was initially sitting sprawled like a man but suddenly he slid down and unconsciously wanted to cover his chest, but he immediately stopped himself and continued to sit sprawled open.
Xiang Liu’s hand moved down from his neck, tracing his jawline, down his clavicle. Xiao Liu grabbed his hand and smiled. “I’m a man. Even if you like men, you should find someone better looking.”
“You’re a man?” Xiang Liu’s slightly blood stained lips curved upward. “If you’re a man, how did you lure the Jiu Jiu out?”
Xiao Liu blinked quizzically, “I don’t believe you can’t change your shape as well as your voice.”
“I trust a beast’s natural instinct.”
“If a beast’s natural instinct was so accurate, your Furball wouldn’t have been poisoned by me. There would be no such thing as traps, and hunters wouldn’t need to hunt.”
“What kind of transformation spell are you using? You have very weak powers but it’s completely seamless just like it’s your true form.”
Xiao Liu angrily said, “This is my true form!”
Xiang Liu stared at him, his eyes as dark as ink, and Xiao Liu’s heart started racing. He violently shook off Xiang Liu’s hand and then spread himself open like a dead pig headed to boiling water. “Touch me then, touch me. After you’re done then stop accusing me of being a woman!”
Xiang Liu glared at him. “I’m not interested in your false form.” He released Xiao Liu, turned and walked out of the pool to go lay on the pallet and continued healing himself.
Xiao Liu’s wildly nervous heart finally relaxed.
We've been talking about the script in some of the threads if you'd care to join us ^^
https://mydramalist.com/discussions/lost-you-forever/110123-xl-and-xy-story-and-romance-warning-spoilers?pid=2749613&page=82#p2749613
https://mydramalist.com/discussions/lost-you-forever/110123-xl-and-xy-story-and-romance-warning-spoilers?pid=2769519&page=118#p2769519
“All of them in different ways” is simpler ^^
Yes, exactly. So we could have a sort of shadow version of the photo gallery in a discussion thread if we wanted, and it wouldn't be affected even if the admins purged the photo gallery again.
I shared an image (YaoJing fanart) in the YaoJing discussion thread that was linked back to the version of that image that was uploaded in the photos section by another user. The origianl image added to the photo section seems to have been a victim of the purge, but the linked version I posted in the YaoJing discussion thread wasn't affected.
https://mydramalist.com/discussions/lost-you-forever/109849-tushan-jing-and-xiao-yao-s-romance?pid=2763111&page=231#p2763111
In episode 14, we see that CX tells the King of Haoling about the medical treatment that XY suggested for his arrow wound, her talent with poisons, and the fact that she planted a poisonous bug in him. Of course the King doesn't mention the manuals at that point - the very little he does say to CX is extremely vague and makes CX mistakenly think that WXL is the son of one of the princes who rebelled against the King of Haoling.
The part where the drama doesn't give us the necessary details is when it doesn't include XY and CX's conversation from chapter 22 (which occurs after she returns from her 37 years in the clam shell).
On the other hand, the novel also doesn't start by showing us CX and XY's childhood. As readers, we don't see Ah Heng giving the manuals to XY the way we do in the drama. The details of XY's childhood are scattered across conversations and flashbacks throughout the novel and we (the readers) have to piece them together. XY's conversation with CX is just one example. So in some ways the drama gives viewers more information than the novel, at least up front.
Although the novel doesn't tell us what the manual said about the bugs, it does seem like XY only knew that they could be used to make another person feel her pain, how to raise them, and the spells that were needed to plant / transfer them. She really seems to have not been aware of what they were called and the other details about how they work.
Personally, I'd recommend reading it to the end. There are so many novel spoilers in all of the chat threads it might be best to just read them from the source first and that way you can participate fully in all the conversations without worrying about trying to avoid those spoilers. There will definitely be differences between the novel and S2, so there will still be an element of surprise. And with the spoilers you can prepare yourself for... certain things.
Jiu Li is the tribe / land where XY's biological father came from. XY's mother knew the Flame Emperor before he died because she and Qi Yo were poisoned (Qi Yo was poisoned first, and Ah Heng then gave herself the same poison) and went to the Flame Emperor to obtain the cure. Qi Yo was the Flame Emperor's one and only disciple.
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Chapter 22:
“Every time you mention voodoo you just glance over it, but how exactly did you learn to raise and plant a voodoo bug? And who taught you all the poison tricks you know?”
Xiao Yao asked “Can we talk secretly here?”
Zhaun Xu nodded and cast a protective spell barrier around them. Xiao Yao asked “So you know the Sheng Nong Herb Manual?”
“Of course, legend has it the Flame Emperor used his entire life to write that manual after testing every living herb in existence. The entire world wants that manual but after the Flame Emperor died it disappeared.”
“It was actually with my Mom. Do you remember when Grandmother and Grandfather were both ill and it was my Mom who was healing them.”
“Of course, but I always thought Auntie learned medicine from the court doctors.”
“I did as well and it was only later that I realized my Mom learned medicine from the Flame Emperor.”
“But….how could that be? Grandfather long wanted to exterminate the Sheng Nong Kingdom.”
“Who knows? Perhaps my Mom stole it.”
“Nonsense!” Many times Zhuan Xu’s respect for Xiao Yao’s mom greatly eclipsed her own.
“When Mom left me in Jade Mountain, around my neck was a jade container that held the Sheng Nong Herb Manual which taught my Mom all about medicines, but it also contained the Jiu Li Poison Voodoo Manual which contained all the spells about using poison and bugs. When the Royal Mother discovered it, she said both books were future catastrophes if people discovered it. She forced me to memorize both and then she destroyed it afterwards.” Xiao Yao remembered how she cried and sobbed and refused to talk with the Royal Mother afterwards for destroying what her mom left for her.
Xiao Yao said “Initially I tucked all that knowledge away in the back of my mind, but when I was captured by the Nine-tailed fox, I remembered the poison learnings. I knew I only had one chance to poison him so I was very careful, and even worried that the Voodoo King’s voodoo manual poisons were not deadly and discreet enough, and even used the Flame Emperor’s medical research to create more poisons.”
Xiao Yao waved her hands “My Mom left me those things likely wanting me to become a healer to ease the people’s suffering, but I think I’m going to become the poison master of my generation.”