I would understand the physical assault because Fujisawa is an angry character but sexual assault really ?? It…
@Jameslogancarlitos I accept this point of view but why is it so difficult to understand that SA is about control and not sex? Fujisawa is a deeply manipulative and controlling character so SA seems completely in line with his previous behavior, that we know of, in my opinon. It's simply an escalation.
That had to be the most awkward sex between Kazuaki & Sei. *cringeAnd for anyone calling it SA. Sei tech consented…
@StarSoul414 You're joking, right? I see sex education still has a loooong way to go. Giving up on resisting physically or even not resisting at all for whatever reason does NOT equal consent. By that logic, it would be okay to have sex with an unconscious person. The reason it was "cringe" is that it wasn't a sex scene, it was an assault.
In the novel, Fujisawa was in love with Sei since they were children. On the day Sei’s parents died in the car…
Thank you so much for sharing this. Jesus, that's messed up. A small part of me sympathizes a bit with Fujisawa after knowing this which is always a sign of an antagonistic character being written well.
When Sei was rejecting Fujisawa's advances because "we won't be able to come back" and Fujisawa was like "Come back? To what?" before going ahead and assaulting him ... that was so chilling and heartbreaking at the same time. This show is really well written.
So, in the new official description from netflix, a love story isn't mentioned. "Pains and joys of the soul" is so ambigious and so is the trailer. I thought getting new info would be magical but it's just making me nervous. Still looking forward to it no matter what but I just want to know if it's romance or not.
If you don’t mind me explaining 🙏🏼…Actually, Haguwara Kazuaki was supposed to send the email to himself,…
@Vadie Thank you! I think it would be very impractical to use your crush's name in an e-mail address so I don't understand it at all but I will accept this explanation.
Yes! Eager to find out what he has been hiding all this time and why he's so bizarre.
@etoks21 Lol yeah, the serial killer thing is definitely a bit much but he has a dark aura around him I didn't really notice on the first watch. I thought he was just an antisocial guy who was overly protective of Sei. And a weird dude who doesn't like TV and acts weirdly fascinated with Sei's foot injury (that scene also gets even weirder on the second watch).
The thing he said to Sei in the past about never wanting to date anyone is probably the most interesting thing. Nothing wrong with not wanting to date but it's bizarre that he's made a religion out of it and instead establishes this strange codependent non-relationship with someone he knows has romantic feelings for him.
I like the thing you say about him possibly having a dark secret that makes him feel unworthy of intimacy or maybe even love. What an oddly fascinating character.
I'm wondering about the e-mail mishap in the beginning and the significance of Sei's two love interests sharing the same name...
Did I miss something or has it actually been established why Sei is using Fujisawa's name (Kazuaki) in his e-mail address, for him to be receiving Hagiwara's e-mail in the first place? It only just hit me as strange upon a rewatch.
Yes! Eager to find out what he has been hiding all this time and why he's so bizarre.
Same! Even if their arrangement is very strange, I kind of understand it from Sei's point of view, but not the other way around... so I'm looking forward to hopefully see it explained.
I've been rewatching to find clues. In the first episode he comes home from a mysterious walk at night and says "Sometimes I can't stop my impulsiveness." I know my imagination might be slightly getting the better of me but this obviously means he's a serial killer.
Seems like Fujisawa is going from sociopath to full psycho in the next episode... The actor should think about being in a horror show, he is giving me chills. Great performance.
Not going to contribute to the conversation about cheating because I find it a little dramatic, but I'll just say episode 5 was the best standalone episode of a show I've seen in a long time. Great flow and writing. I like how Kazuaki and Sei's relationships with their respective"partners" are described very ambiguously, yet the characters feel very authentic. I struggled a bit with understanding the connection between the characters in the beginning but it was still interesting enough for me to stick around and now it makes complete sense. Also, the dialogue is so refreshingly romantic without being tacky which is a huge strength in Japanese dramas in general, I think.
I recommend it to others, it's so freeing not having to see the comments from those obsessive people on a mission commenting on every single post.
Giving up on resisting physically or even not resisting at all for whatever reason does NOT equal consent. By that logic, it would be okay to have sex with an unconscious person. The reason it was "cringe" is that it wasn't a sex scene, it was an assault.
Why is every second thing said in this show low-key the most romantic thing I've ever heard 😭
The thing he said to Sei in the past about never wanting to date anyone is probably the most interesting thing. Nothing wrong with not wanting to date but it's bizarre that he's made a religion out of it and instead establishes this strange codependent non-relationship with someone he knows has romantic feelings for him.
I like the thing you say about him possibly having a dark secret that makes him feel unworthy of intimacy or maybe even love. What an oddly fascinating character.
Did I miss something or has it actually been established why Sei is using Fujisawa's name (Kazuaki) in his e-mail address, for him to be receiving Hagiwara's e-mail in the first place? It only just hit me as strange upon a rewatch.
I've been rewatching to find clues. In the first episode he comes home from a mysterious walk at night and says "Sometimes I can't stop my impulsiveness." I know my imagination might be slightly getting the better of me but this obviously means he's a serial killer.
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