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Yep, so it's an issue with relatability then. In my case I did find myself smiling at some cute moments, but ultimately I think I've seen relationships in dramas which I've enjoyed more. The portrayal of youth doesn't align with my experiences at all and for me the story didn't have any emotional value aside from enjoying some of the characters' interaction.

Thank you for sharing the explanation though, I think I understand the support for this drama a lot better now!

I'm honestly intriguingly surprised this ended up being one of the highest rated BL dramas on MDL.
The lack of problematic relationship tropes sure was nice (even though the "sudden change in abusive parents' behaviour" still happened) and the main couple was cute, but I feel like the drama was lacking in almost all areas. The many unresolved or rushed plot points made everything feel incomplete which resulted in nothing but the main couple's story making proper sense. To this day I don't understand why the second couple had an argument and how it was resolved with just one kiss.
And I'm not saying it's bad, but to me this feels like a pretty average drama, maybe around the 8.0 rating. Though maybe the issue is with me only relating to Ye Guang's parental situation and ending up disappointed with how the parents reformed instead of seeing Ye Guang gaining his own independence despite their protests. I suppose the story might be more enjoyable for those who can relate to the characters' struggles.

I am so surprised that pink was the key colour because until now I thought everything in pink was either supposed to be the shade "blush pink" from ep 3 or magenta, the alternate universe's colour. So I guess featuring blush pink early into the story was supposed to throw us off lol.

I personally thought either red or brown were going to be the most important colour since they've both been very prominent and featured during some important scenes.

As someone who lowers dramas' ratings depending on how many tropes are found in them, I can assure you that so far there were only 2 tropes, both a one-time thing and neither actually harmful or problematic.

GMM produces one or two majorly liked dramas every year and this is one of those.

I thought that scene only happened so she could naturally find out more about their true personalities before she gets close to all 3 of them later in the plot?

Seeing how there isn't enough screen time to properly develop the main plotline, I'm not expecting there to be that gradual change.But even though I understand people like happy endings and don't need dramas to be realistic, the trope of a parent changing, even if gradually, always feels like such a slap to the face for me. In reality abusive parents rarely improve and realise their wrong behaviour so children usually act obedient and hope to escape that environment as soon as possible. I'd like to see more dramas like this where the parents don't improve and their child instead finds comfort in people outside of home.

Now I'm going to end up either overjoyed or disappointed depending on whether Ye Guang's parents end up having the "sudden redemption arc" or not. Because the narrative of abusive parents changing their behaviour at the very end has already ruined a couple of dramas for me lol.

Knowing the colour theory can actually spoil an entire episode haha. I'd figured white symbolises Talay and black is for Puen so gray would logically be the title of the episode when the two of them got together, just like white and black turn to gray once they connect. With black I originally thought Puen would be revealing his name, but I did assume it'd be focused on him.

Also I just want to say, that magenta hourglass is my favourite symbolism so far. Magenta is the colour of the alternate universe they're in so putting it into an hourglass indicates the passage of time and eventual end of their stay in that universe. Which means that Puen had indirectly confessed to Talay that he's willing to leave with him once their time there runs out :)

To me it seems like Thai BLs have started shifting towards the aesthetics of South Korea/western countries in an attempt to internationalise their dramas more. They want to meet that higher standard of production and modernising their fashion to match with the developed countries seems to be one of the ways to do it.
It is awful that the actors have to act dressed like Thailand has 4 seasons if it's really just because all of the major tv producers are located in the northern hemisphere, but I guess the stylists would prefer that over the actual Thai fashion.

My biggest question is if the new drummer had to provide results of a gay test to the producer before being assigned to the band since I'm guessing all the other members are lgbtq+ if their entire branding is pride-based.

I'd randomly stumbled upon this and even 8 years later it's still such a good variety show idea. Despite not knowing any of the celebrities, I'm still having fun watching them integrate into the schools and it's also great for getting insight into how Korean schools are (or were) structured.
Such a shame only half of it was subbed, I'd absolutely watch the rest if I could.

I don't exactly know why, but the transmigrators default to wearing blue and there were a lot of scenes at their base in this episode. But besides that blue is the most frequent colour in the drama overall so it's most likely due to it being an important colour.

I feel like replies would get as easily lost as the comments, I'm considering the first choice, but I'm unsure if it's okay to have such a long post at the start of a topic. Thank you for the suggestion either way!

I had a brief thought about doing this, but I have no idea how to format this. Do I make a new discussion for every two episodes, one topic of which the first post will be edited with newly added information after every new episode or something else entirely?

That's an interesting theory! It's like he's debuting for the second time with a fresh start so this haircut could be aiming to emphatise that.

I am here to talk about colours again. This one is very long compared to previous two because I've started comparing and linking things with the past episodes and making up some theories, though I have no idea if I'm spouting any correct interpretations lol.

Ep 5: Winter White
There's an interesting contrast with this title as winter has mostly negative symbolism of words such as cold and lonely while white is usually associated with purity and general goodness. (at least according to my google search and I also have no idea if the meaning in Thailand is different, I'm trying my best here)
But if white in this drama is meant to be considered Talay's personal colour, then the title "Lonely Talay" would describe this episode quite well.

Based on the past outfits, white is primarily Talay's colour while Puen's is black (and this is solidified in the second scene of this ep). They often use clothing of these colours as neutrals in combination with the title colours. And there actually has been a case of Talay wearing a fully white outfit in ep 2.

I think this is the first time we're seeing Talay wearing a piece of clothing with multiple non-neutral colours and also that white lone car in the parking lot has not been shown to us before.

Magenta and blue are proving to be the colours associated with the transmigrators club since the lighting is there for the second ep in a row. Might be notable that blue is specifically only in the background whenever the focus is on Talay. Puen was originally standing in it too, but then got dragged into magenta. I'm thinking maybe magenta is the colour of the universe they're in and darker blue is the one of the world they came from. As for the clothing, there are mostly shades of white and blue with Dol once again being the only person outside the norm by wearing dark brown (or is that burgundy?).

Brown can apparently symbolise warmth, comfort and reliability which I think fits well with the snow scene where Talay was wearing a brown and black sweater. He also wore brown a lot during the last episode when the two of them had happy moments together. If that's the case, we could potentially get it as a title colour during a heartwarming and wholesome episode. But another theory I'm considering is that brown is the actual colour representing this alternate universe instead of magenta. Brown is seen in a lot of the important rooms and buildings and magenta could then potentially be linked to interpersonal relationships.

Orange/coral has been quite uncommon so far and the cinema scene in also the first one where neither of them is wearing the title colour.
Next at the bar, it's the return of that coral colour in combination with the title colour, but this time Puen is wearing them. I'm not sure if it meant anything since that scene was fairly short. That bar owner inserting blue into the scene as soon as the mood became melancholic should mean something.
After that, coral-white is back on Talay again and then he goes for a brownish orange (ochre?) t-shirt with a white bag while Puen is seen wearing gray 3 scenes in a row.

Also last thing I've noted is that Talay has fully returned to wearing clothing with patters, he's worn a lot of striped and one checkered piece. It was only for this particular episode though, in the next one he went back to wearing plain clothes.


Ep 6: Fire yellow
This is one of the most uncommon colours throughout the first 5 episodes, it's only been shown in the background through lights and the bars in their scriptwriting room. However, the only time it was presented on clothing was Talay's shoulder bag during the hedge maze scene.

In the first flashback the blue lighting in Tun's room was missing. It was one of the uncommon moments of Puen wearing white while Talay wore the title colour before it was revealed. Second flashback has Talay wearing yellow again and I've also realised that during the past 2 eps Puen has been picking t-shirts in the colour range between beige, brown and grey.

I feel like it might be important to note that they had the conversation about where to live and what's next in the magenta room.

The transmigrators are once again wearing blue in combination with the title colour with Dol being the exception, but interestingly there's also one person in orange and one in dark pink(?).

Talay wore black during the scenes when he had no patterned clothing on and stripes had only made return with that greenish yellow sweater which he paired up with white.

It makes a lot of sense that the scene with sparklers and yellow fence is in this ep. I guess yellow really might just symbolise optimism and creativity, probably also hopefulness. The last one would explain why Talay still kept his yellow shirt in the frame despite taking it off.

Tun's room has a lot of blue in it and the lighting in their garden also includes blue in combination with coral/orange which has been a very prominent colour lately.

Talay was on a yellow streak, but the blue t-shirt broke it. Interestingly, nobody wore any yellow in that scene where Puen wasn't present at all. In the RV compilation Talay only wore red. Yellow returns once the friend group is back together, but what's the most interesting here is the comeback of forest green on Puen's t-shirt.
Another instance of neither wearing the title colour, was with them both in brown. But I'm pretty sure here is also the first time we see Dol wearing ocean blue (granted the light blue nursing top doesn't count). In fact, Joob is the only one in the group wearing the title colour, she also wore a yellow-beige dress last episode, but she usually does tend to stick to blue. It's as if Joob was only allowed to not wear blue when Dol had it or wasn't in the scene at all. Since this was her last scene, I believe it could've been used to highlight that positivity and hopefulness her character had brought into the story.
Red makes a return for the second time while they're having a pondering session. But maybe they're just dressed to match the KFC box, I don't know.

The funeral scene included mostly beige, brown and blush pink from ep 3. According to this, brown could still be the symbol of the alternate universe though I no longer believe it represents warmth. In case of pink it's pointing towards negative emotions as well so perhaps loss of confidence and willpower. Dol seems to be cooperative with the colour scheme second time in a row. Talay and Puen both only wore their own colours which might symbolise how their thoughts focused on themselves without considering the outside world at that moment. The morning after, Puen is wearing blue while Talay has a combination of white and black which leads me to believe that at this point Talay's main concern were the two of them (this was also verbally voiced) while Puen was mainly considering their original universe in general (at least by my theory).


Also I'm linking the past comments in case anyone is interested in back-reading :)
Eps 1&2: https://mydramalist.com/715907-vice-versa#comment-10669233
Eps 3&4: https://mydramalist.com/715907-vice-versa#comment-10852355

Thank you so much for saying this! I've almost started to believe that character design really doesn't matter in dramas since most people can just memorise the faces, but I guess it's more like the viewers don't realise they could pay extra attention to the secondary features since the face is the most distinguishable thing about the actors. I guess I can perceive this as something positive about my disability :)

About the attractiveness part, I definitely should've elaborated on that more because I actually have no idea what you think my reason is haha. In reality, I can't remember or recall faces no matter how long I've known that person so every time I'm looking at someone, it's basically as if I was seeing a face for the first time in my life. Although I can recognise that Thai actors do have a more symmetrical and even facial structure compared to the average Thai person, I can hardly recognise which actors can be considered more attractive and what hairstyle or clothing suits them the best. So that's the reason why I pay attention to everything but the face of the character, I have to memorise how to distinguish them somehow.

But it is very interesting to get the insight into how many layers to beauty and attractiveness there are and how secondary features still play a big role in the overall looks of that person even if they aren't what people usually pay attention to in detail.

Also you're bringing up a great point about the production. I hadn't really thought about this before, but it makes sense that all the staff works hard to make the actors look as aesthetically appealing to the audience as possible. In that case I'm wondering where it goes wrong when some actors are said to look worse styled as certain characters (like Pavel in case of this drama).

You're welcome then, I hope you enjoy lmao.

I was looking for a comment like this to know if I should give it a try so thank you for saving my time on this one!